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How does black America get fixed?

It can. When people argue that poverty among Black Americans is just due to bad personal decisions—like not finishing school or having children young—they often ignore a crucial fact: personal choices don’t happen in a vacuum. Every personal decision is shaped by a wider context—historical, social, and economic. To focus solely on individual responsibility without looking at broader social/historical/structural conditions is both misleading and unfair.

And this isn’t unique to Black Americans. Poor white communities in places like Appalachia also experience high dropout rates, early pregnancy, addiction, and economic stagnation. But the difference is: we don’t usually attribute their struggles to personal failings—we talk about job loss, declining industries, and healthcare gaps. Native American reservations show similar patterns, rooted in centuries of colonization, forced relocation, and broken treaties. These examples prove the point: bad decisions are often symptoms, not causes.

Even historically, groups like the Irish and Italians were once seen as inherently dysfunctional and genetially incapable of self-governance or functional society. They lived in generational poverty, faced discrimination, and were accused of moral failure. But over time, as policies changed and access to opportunity improved, those groups entered the middle class—not because their culture or genetics transformed, but because their context did.

Black communities in the U.S. have faced generations of systemic barriers: slavery, segregation, redlining, underfunded schools, and mass incarceration. These aren’t distant historical events—they shape the present. For example, mid-20th-century redlining policies excluded Black families from home loans, while white families built wealth through subsidized homeownership. This led to today’s massive racial wealth gap. Families who were locked out of that opportunity passed down poverty, not because they made worse decisions, but because the system denied them access to upward mobility.

Ditto for education. Public schools are funded by local property taxes, which means schools in low-income neighborhoods—often predominantly Black—are underfunded and overcrowded. They may lack basic resources, experienced teachers, or safe environments. A student who drops out in this context isn’t necessarily making a "bad" decision—they may be reacting to trauma, needing to support their family, or simply not seeing any payoff from staying in a broken system.

The criminal justice system adds another layer. Black Americans are arrested and incarcerated at much higher rates for offenses like drug possession, even though drug use is similar across racial groups. A felony record can close the door to jobs, housing, and education. When entire communities are policed this way, the cycle of poverty becomes nearly impossible to escape.

So what we call a “bad decision” is not done in a complete vacuum, and often depends on who makes it and under what conditions. A wealthy teen who experiments with drugs or struggles in school often gets second chances. A poor teen making the same choice might face jail, dropout, or lifelong setbacks. The problem isn’t just the decision—it’s the lack of support and safety nets from their broader society that determine the outcome.

This doesn’t mean personal responsibility doesn’t matter—it does. But responsibility is shaped by possibility. When we ignore the role of structure, we hold people accountable for outcomes they never had a fair shot at avoiding.

If we’re serious about solving poverty, and truly want people to make better choices, rather than just perpetuating racism, we need to address not just the choices people make—but the conditions that shape those choices.
The reason that’s nonsense is that it isn’t a problem for the majority of blacks. We’re talking about the minority, why that is a larger share among blacks than it is among other racial groups, and why it exploded sometime around the 1970s.

This woman is not poorly educated and have 15 kids out of wedlock with multiple men who aren’t involved because of anything the white man did.

 
What can be done?
The assumption that Black America is broken has not been proved out.

Demonstrate your premise, first. Make a case. Show what you mean by "broken", and then provide examples.

If a man cannot do that, he's probably just bowling for dopamine hits. And, given the subject line, doing it for dodgy ass reasons.
 
The reason that’s nonsense is that it isn’t a problem for the majority of blacks. We’re talking about the minority, why that is a larger share among blacks than it is among other racial groups, and why it exploded sometime around the 1970s.

This woman is not poorly educated and have 15 kids out of wedlock with multiple men who aren’t involved because of anything the white man did.



First of all, this is ignoring all the lynchings, the "whites only" schools and drinking fountains, things like the Tulsa Massacre, the systematic exclusion of African Americans from even voting until the 1960s, etc...

But then, as you say, along came the 1970s: a turning point in the economic and social fabric of American cities—especially for Black communities. Up until that time, even if they had not managed to make it into solid middle class, many Black Americans were part of the working class, often employed in manufacturing and industrial sectors that provided stable, if modest, incomes.

But beginning in the early 1970s, those jobs began to vanish due to deindustrialization, automation, and globalization. Factories closed or moved overseas, and the blue-collar work that had once provided a pathway to upward mobility disappeared—especially in urban centers where many Black families had settled during the Great Migration.

At the same time, American cities saw a wave of disinvestment. As white families moved to the suburbs—often aided by subsidized housing and highway programs—urban neighborhoods were left with shrinking tax bases. Public schools, transit systems, hospitals, and housing authorities deteriorated from underfunding. Black neighborhoods were particularly hard hit because they had been excluded from the wealth-building opportunities of the New Deal and postwar era, like GI Bill benefits and FHA-backed home loans. So just as the economy was transforming in ways that demanded higher levels of education and social capital, many Black communities were still reeling from the immediate aftermath of legal segregation, redlining, and unequal schooling.

Then came the drug war and Ronald Reagan talking about "Cadillac-driving welfare queens". In the 1980s and 1990s, harsh sentencing laws—including mandatory minimums and three-strikes policies—led to a massive surge in incarceration, especially for nonviolent drug offenses. Black men were disproportionately targeted, leaving many communities with a generation of fathers, brothers, and sons behind bars. The criminal justice system didn’t just punish crime—it restructured families, destabilized neighborhoods, and made reentry into the workforce nearly impossible for those with a record.

What resulted from this perfect storm wasn’t just poverty—it was concentrated disadvantage. That means entire neighborhoods where multiple systems failed at once: underfunded schools, unaffordable housing, inadequate healthcare, overpolicing, and little access to decent jobs. In these environments, what might seem like “bad decisions” from the outside—dropping out of school, early parenthood, underground economies—are often adaptive responses to scarcity, stress, learned helplessness, and instability. They're not cultural pathologies. They're what people do when the system gives them no safe or sustainable alternatives.

This is what gets missed when people ignore all this and just talk about "bad personal decision": the issue isn’t that Black culture or personal behavior suddenly deteriorated in the 1970s, or even before that. It’s that the entire structural support collapsed just as Black Americans were finally gaining formal legal equality. For generations, they had been denied the chance to build wealth and stability—then, just as the doors of opportunity had begun to open, the economy shifted, public support was pulled back, and punitive systems stepped in.

When people argue that poverty or family breakdown is about culture, they’re not just wrong—they’re ignoring history. The real pathology isn’t in communities. It’s in the systems that set them up to fail.
 
The reason that’s nonsense is that it isn’t a problem for the majority of blacks. We’re talking about the minority, why that is a larger share among blacks than it is among other racial groups, and why it exploded sometime around the 1970s.

This woman is not poorly educated and have 15 kids out of wedlock with multiple men who aren’t involved because of anything the white man did.



The association of poverty with high fertility rates is not just an African American problem. It too has its roots as a social/historical problem, and is a phenomenon observed in societies from around the world. Poor countries tend to have the highest fertility rates, and as their economics improves, their fertility rates drop- often dramatically. This has been the case in all developed and developing countries, from Europe to Japan, China, Korea, and now increasingly, India.

For example, did you know that in the 1950s, when Korea was one of the poorest countries in the world, their fertility rate was 7.2 children/family? And now, just a generation later, now that S Korea is one of the strongest economies in the world, that rate has dropped to 1.2?

Again, a great example of how the social/economic/historical context is so crucial to individual decisions.
 
The assumption that Black America is broken has not been proved out.
Well, let’s start with this. 49.7% of black children reside in single parent households - almost all with their mother. 60% of black custodial parents (primarily black women) don’t have an order of support. Many of the black men who are subject to a support order refuse to comply and end up incarcerated for non-payment. That is the state of affairs today. What happened from 1970-1990s to cause these rates to skyrocket from ~20% to more than double that? Why did black men decide en masse the only thing they should do with their time is make and abandon babies?

The answer is the black supremacist poison of Malcom X who taught a whole generation of blacks that women are nothing more than brood mares to be subjugated and sexed by black men - a super secret tribe of Israel chosen by God himself to multiply and dominate the Earth. He tried to walk some of that back in his later life but the damage had already been done.
 
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First essential step; abandon the false notion that our species, Homo Sapiens, is divided into distinct 'races'. This erroneous theory, long since disproved, has afflicted the USA since its foundation.
Many years ago, when given forms at work for some study that asked the question "race?" I always entered the word "human".

IMO, what more than anything else needs to be fixed is the Federal Individual Income Tax Code.
 
What the **** does this even mean. What exactly is wrong with "Black America"?

The better question is how does White America get fixed. Since y'all seem intent on reverting to fascism and white supremacy all the time and consistently refuse to be educated, despite lofty appeals to freedom and equality and justice for all.
 
What can be done?
It can't be whitesplained. Every American must decide what is right for themselves to do and how to comport. Some people react well to pressure, others do not. And others still hold a magnifying class to the cracks while avoiding inspection of their own foundations.
 
What can be done?
Step one....stop putting racists, White Supremacists and White Nationalists in office. Why does someone who doesn't care even ask this question, unless out fishing today? I'm not taking the rotten bait. Your avatar speaks volumes.

Don't have a "black America" but just an "America"?

I agree, but since racism is thriving here, America, including our history, is being whitewashed certain people continue the demeaning of anyone other than White Male "christians", those people are intolerant, hateful hypocrites.

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The problem is people want to make it a race issue, and it isn't in the regards to economics. Generational resentment adds to the equation.
It is when policies are designed around racist ideas and exclude particular groups. So when we look back at US policies throughout this country's history, there were some which specifically excluded black people from getting the same advantages their white counterparts did. From a generational wealth perspective, it's a massive game changer for those who benefitted from these policies and those who were denied purely based on race.
 
The problem is people want to make it a race issue, and it isn't in the regards to economics. Generational resentment adds to the equation.

The current economic situation for African Americans is heavily effected by the racist policies against them in the past and their lingering legacies that still exist.
 
Sorry but it's not poverty, it's a cultural thing. That said, they can't be fixed from the outside. They have to fix themselves.
 
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It starts in the home.

What effect does it have on black kids who are more likely to see their mom's beaten than white kids?


Domestic Violence in the Black Community By the Numbers

Domestic Violence in the Black Community By the Numbers


Black Women and Domestic Violence​

"Black women have the most significant risk of experiencing domestic violence. According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, approximately 45% of Black women have experienced stalking and physical or sexual violence in their lifetimes. To make things even worse, according to a study published in The Lancet, Black women are also six times more likely to be killed than white women.

The National Domestic Hotline defines domestic violence as a pattern of behavior in any relationship that is used to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. Contrary to popular belief, domestic violence includes physical, emotional, economic, sexual, or psychological actions or threats."

 
These threads are like babies made of tar for the kind of people who think others cannot see that their culture is bullhorn for race.
 
So China is your model? How honest of you.
China, and every single other developed/developing economies, all over the world, from the last 2 centuries. I gave lots of examples, including China.

So why did you zero in on just that? Is it possible you are not engaging in good faith discussion?
 
It starts in the home.

What effect does it have on black kids who are more likely to see their mom's beaten than white kids?


Domestic Violence in the Black Community By the Numbers

Domestic Violence in the Black Community By the Numbers


Black Women and Domestic Violence​

"Black women have the most significant risk of experiencing domestic violence. According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, approximately 45% of Black women have experienced stalking and physical or sexual violence in their lifetimes. To make things even worse, according to a study published in The Lancet, Black women are also six times more likely to be killed than white women.

The National Domestic Hotline defines domestic violence as a pattern of behavior in any relationship that is used to gain or maintain power and control over an intimate partner. Contrary to popular belief, domestic violence includes physical, emotional, economic, sexual, or psychological actions or threats."


The incidence is higher in Appalachia. Where is your concern for those poor women?

 
Because that's an example you used in your post.

Sure, along with every single other developed or developing nation in the world, throughout history.

This is like saying we shouldn't have traffic lights at busy intersections, because China has them too.
 
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A good start would be to hold black people to the same standard for behavior as anybody else.

The enablement arising from the left contributes far more to the status quo than any other single factor.
 
Sorry but it's not poverty, it's a cultural thing. That said, they can't be fixed from the outside. They have to fix themselves.
A part of how cultures develop are due to their conditions, and black people in this country were treated poorly from their arrival through the mid 20th century. That kind of thing impacts a culture.
 
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