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How does black America get fixed?

devildavid said:
There is a white culture. It is the basis for American culture. Its racism helped to create the black culture and all the other sub cultures that white culture wanted to be sure knew their place in the pecking order.
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Give me some examples of it. Beyond exploitation.
 
j brown's body said:
You should ask them. You won't find any here though.

But as long as white owned housing has greater market value than black owned housing, even when incomes are the same, nothing is going to change.

I short, white people need to get over their fear of white people. Most of my clueless white friends seem to think blacks want to do to us what we have done to them all these years, but its just not true.

Untile we reckon with our racist past and its consequences today, the race issue will not be resolved.
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That will never happen. Our racist past will always be excused as being something that we just didn’t know any better at the time. That is the lame excuse of whites. We created the black underclass based on racist attitudes of those in power. There were plenty of whites then who saw the problem but their voices were ignored. Blacks were used by us to build the southern economy because no whites could be found to do the hard labor in the extreme heat and malaria infested swamps required. Hypocrisy, when it comes to human equality, is in the DNA of this country and can’t be removed. We taught the slaves brutality and they learned it well. Then we segregated them and they do as they learned so we conveniently blame it on them. Racism is a core American flaw. This thread is just another example of it being revealed.
 
devildavid said:
That will never happen. Our racist past will always be excused as being something that we just didn’t know any better at the time. That is the lame excuse of whites. We created the black underclass based on racist attitudes of those in power. There were plenty of whites then who saw the problem but their voices were ignored. Blacks were used by us to build the southern economy because no whites could be found to do the hard labor in the extreme heat and malaria infested swamps required. Hypocrisy, when it comes to human equality, is in the DNA of this country and can’t be removed. We taught the slaves brutality and they learned it well. Then we segregated them and they do as they learned so we conveniently blame it on them. Racism is a core American flaw. This thread is just another example of it being revealed.
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I see us as a nation in perpetual adolescence. Utterly unable to accept responsibilty for the racist inheritance of our youth and thus, unable to grow into an inclusive adulthood.
 
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j brown's body said:
I see us as a nation in perpetual adolescence. Utterly unable to accept responsibilty for the racist inheritance of our youth and thus, unable to grow into an inclusive adulthood.
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We are a nation in perpetual hypocrisy. We have words in our founding documents that contradict the actions of our founding and existence. It took a civil war to violently force this nation into existence. And even that didn’t really work. Blood was spilled for ideals that were never meant to include everyone in the first place. And today we see that same hypocrisy rear its ugly head again with what is taking place in our government.
 
devildavid said:
Protestant work ethic. Belief in free market capitalism. The nuclear family. Individualism. Economic mobility.
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I'm skeptical that these things came about due to people being white, or due to their condition of being white.

Its mostly "obey your boss."

Black culture comes out of their condition. For instance, their music evolves out of their subservient condition.
 
j brown's body said:
I'm skeptical that these things came about due to people being white, or due to their condition of being white.

Its mostly "obey your boss."

Black culture comes out of their condition. For instance, their music evolves out of their subservient condition.
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It is due to racism and being white is a large part of it. All societies have pecking orders based on the most shallow of criteria.
 
T25 said:
What can be done?
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The question of how BLACK America should be fixed assumes the things you think broken about B:LACK America are not caused by the very same phenomena that WHITE OR BROWN OR YELLOW America all are "broken" from.

Your assumption the malaise and cause of socio-economic problems in any community in the US is different because of someone's skin colour is where you should start and you need to fix. Please do not speak for blacks, or anyone else, speak for yourself.

All the issues impacting to harm black Americans harm all Americans. The impact of what you think is broken comes down to one's level of finances. Anyone in the US with sufficient money can shelter themselves from the "broken" phenomena you talk of.

Your very question indicates how deeply entrenched you are as an American to define people by skin colour when you know its wealth level that is at the root of the "brokeness" you claim.

Your question is absurd. You know damn well if all black people were given abundant amounts of money and given the exact same tax breaks and privileges of the elite minor cell of people in the US Trump protects their solutions would be "fixed".

Stop throwing out rhetorical questions that necessarily define blacks as broken to start with.

Are you black? Do you claim your problems as a black are not related to the financial class system in the US?

Are you claiming blacks are broken even when they do reach a privileged level of wealth and power? You think Judge Thomas needs to be fixed?
 
Mika-El said:
Your assumption the malaise and cause of socio-economic problems in any community in the US is different because of someone's skin colour...
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I stopped reading there. I never said or implied anything of the sort.
 
aociswundumho said:
Thomas Sowell makes a solid argument that the villain is the progressive welfare state. He has a lot of evidence that blacks were improving by income and education until the great society programs of the 60s, and then it all went downhill from there.
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Oh yeah, and anti-discrimination laws and voting rights laws added to the mess. Btw, the welfare state began under FDR in the 1930s not in the 1960s. And the GI bill (Blacks excluded) in the 1940s created enormous prosperity.

And link us to an article by Sowell wherein he decries corporate welfare.
 
Mr Person said:
People like the person who started the thread, who you did not chastise but instead chose to chastise a target on the left?
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Have you tried crying more?

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Nickyjo said:
What needs fixing? White America voted for Trump. Start the fixin’ there.
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Can't we ever have a single thread devoid of Trump Derangement Syndrome?
 
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Nickyjo said:
First step to accomplish your objective: tell Trump to stop acting deranged.
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Well, considering most of what we see is from a power-force of corporate media that hates him, I don't really trust anything said about him. I go by what I see. Actions speak louder than words.
 
Lord of Planar said:
Well, considering most of what we see is from a power-force of corporate media that hates him, I don't really trust anything said about him. I go by what I see. Actions speak louder than words.
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About Trump hate: I repeat the title of a documentary from the late 1960s about militant Black organizations: “The Hate that Hate Produced.” If Trump is hated, one reason is that he has preached hate for decades. Remember the Central Park Five ads — “I want to hate them.”
His slogan might as well be MAHA, Make America Hate Again. You know the list of people and groups he has directed us to hate or fear, no need for me to spell it out.
 
Nickyjo said:
About Trump hate: I repeat the title of a documentary from the late 1960s about militant Black organizations: “The Hate that Hate Produced.” If Trump is hated, one reason is that he has preached hate for decades. Remember the Central Park Five ads — “I want to hate them.”
His slogan might as well be MAHA, Make America Hate Again. You know the list of people and groups he has directed us to hate or fear, no need for me to spell it out.
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Are we not suppose to hate muggers that cause fear in a city?
 
SavannahMann said:
We can kill all the White Racists and end the discrimination they consider normal.
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Um, what? I hate racism too, but this is not the way. Dismantling systemic racism is the way.
 
Quite a fixation on black people here from MAGAs recently.

It’s usually the LGBT in their crosshairs.

Interesting to take note of.
 
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