Faith and madness, am I too harsh?

[Angel]

I, oddly as you see it, don't need big words to understand stuff.

You only see the big words and thus in your mind Gid!!



This is bollocks. Nothing else. anything based on it is drivel.

Thia will have no impact on your mind due to your inability to think in a none already got the conclusion and no need to change at all personal philosophy. That is the point of the thread.

Doubling down on New Atheist New Critical Thinking, are you, lad?

"When called out for criticizing out of ignorance, criticize some more out of ignorance.
Embrace the ignorance.
Make it appear as if those who know more are at fault for knowing more."
​

Brilliant!

 

[Tim the plumber]

Doubling down on New Atheist New Critical Thinking, are you, lad?

"When called out for criticizing out of ignorance, criticize some more out of ignorance.
Embrace the ignorance.
Make it appear as if those who know more are at fault for knowing more."
​

Brilliant!

You know nothing as you demonstrate with every post.

You still have not said if you were aware of the fact that the video you posted showed your point to be drivel. Will you answer, did you know this? Had you watched any of the videos you psted?

 

[Angel]

You know nothing as you demonstrate with every post.

You still have not said if you were aware of the fact that the video you posted showed your point to be drivel. Will you answer, did you know this? Had you watched any of the videos you psted?

Rule #2 in New Atheist New Critical Thinking:

"When a question you've asked has been answered and shown to be based on ignorance,
wait a few days and ask the question again." ​

In this case 30 posts ago.

Namaste.

 

[devildavid]

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. - 1 Corinthians 2:14

Get the Spirit so you can understand these things.

If this Spirit is real, why does someone have to get it? Isn't it already there? And how can anyone be sure they have gotten it? Can you tell from a stool sample?

 

[devildavid]

OK. But 'mind' is not a thing, a noun. It is a verb, mind is just what brains do. The false assumption that things called 'minds' exist has bedeviled psychiatry and aided the anti-science charlatanism of 'pschoanalysis' for nigh on a century.

Yes, that has been a failing of psychoanalysis. The focus should be on the physical functioning of the brain and nervous system, the actual sources of human behavior. The other focus should be on environmental factors, which includes all inputs into that physical system.

 

[devildavid]

Yes, it does seem as though the New Atheist fuss is more about religious doctrine than about the existence of God tout court. And yes, you characterize my position fairly.

Namaste.

All atheists, new or old, lack belief in gods. The so-called existence of god is dismissed by atheism.

 

[Sweden]

The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned. - 1 Corinthians 2:14

Get the Spirit so you can understand these things.

I am afraid that although you will find it difficult you must accept that for many the instruction to "Get the Spirit" is just another example of religious nonsense. And why not keep the biblical quotations or the faithful who can be relied upon to treat them with something other than contempt?

 

[Angel]

All atheists, new or old, lack belief in gods. The so-called existence of god is dismissed by atheism.

"All atheists, new and old, lack belief in gods." Check.
"The so-called existence of god is dismissed by atheism." Incorrect. Only by New Atheism.
Atheism before New Atheism had integrity; older atheism was based on thought.
Dismissal without thought is all New Atheism is about.

 

[Rich2018]

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Come on, that's not how Yoda talks.

It would be "Republicanism, the dark side is the path to".

 

[devildavid]

"All atheists, new and old, lack belief in gods." Check.
"The so-called existence of god is dismissed by atheism." Incorrect. Only by New Atheism.
Atheism before New Atheism had integrity; older atheism was based on thought.
Dismissal without thought is all New Atheism is about.

Nope, all atheism is the same. Dismissal with the amount of thought sufficient to dismiss the obviously imaginary.

 

[Angel]

Nope, all atheism is the same. Dismissal with the amount of thought sufficient to dismiss the obviously imaginary.

Nope, New Atheism is new. Dismissal is not deliberation. Wake up.

 

[devildavid]

Nope, New Atheism is new. Dismissal is not deliberation. Wake up.

There is nothing to deliberate.

 

[Angel]

There is nothing to deliberate.

That's what makes you a New Atheist despite your protestations. Lack of deliberation (thought) is the very soul of New Atheism.

 

[devildavid]

That's what makes you a New Atheist despite your protestations. Lack of deliberation (thought) is the very soul of New Atheism.

No, that is what makes you label me a New Atheist. I was this kind of atheist long before so-called New Atheism came along. New Atheism is just a label you use as a feeble attempt to smear atheists who refuse to play your game and follow your rules, as if there is some code to follow of how to be an atheist. You must be a New Theist, the kind who most likely are the catalyst for the rise of what you call New Atheists. Well, you got what you deserved.

 

[Angel]

No, that is what makes you label me a New Atheist. I was this kind of atheist long before so-called New Atheism came along. New Atheism is just a label you use as a feeble attempt to smear atheists who refuse to play your game and follow your rules, as if there is some code to follow of how to be an atheist. You must be a New Theist, the kind who most likely are the catalyst for the rise of what you call New Atheists. Well, you got what you deserved.

Your own words (posts) make you out a New Atheist. You dismiss without deliberation. If you did this prior to 2001, then you were a harbinger of New Atheism. Props.

 

[Tim the plumber]

You still have not said if you were aware of the fact that the video you posted showed your point to be drivel. Will you answer, did you know this? Had you watched any of the videos you psted?

Rule #2 in New Atheist New Critical Thinking:

"When a question you've asked has been answered and shown to be based on ignorance,
wait a few days and ask the question again." ​

In this case 30 posts ago.

Namaste.

You have not answered.

I will keep asking untill you answer. [3]

 

[Angel]

You have not answered.

I will keep asking untill you answer. [3]

Answered 30-odd posts ago. You're waiting for Godot (look it up).

 

[Logicman]

The solid evidence comes from neuro science. Our identity resides in our brains. Once they cease to exist, we cease to be. No life after death.

There is life after death. Jesus proved it.

 

[Logicman]

I am afraid that although you will find it difficult you must accept that for many the instruction to "Get the Spirit" is just another example of religious nonsense.

You're speaking about things you don't understand. I remember the day I received the Spirit. Haven't been the same since.

 

[Tim the plumber]

Answered 30-odd posts ago. You're waiting for Godot (look it up).

Nope I did not know if you had watched the video and thus knew it rubbished the thing you want it to support. [4]

Can you answer and not evade?

 

[Logicman]

If this Spirit is real, why does someone have to get it? Isn't it already there? And how can anyone be sure they have gotten it?

Because it changes people's lives. You get it when you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and are born again.

Can you tell from a stool sample?

Remember when Nancy Pelosi said "We need to pass it to see what's in it"? That is the definition of a stool sample.

 

[Angel]

Nope I did not know if you had watched the video and thus knew it rubbished the thing you want it to support. [4]

Can you answer and not evade?

Answered at #98:

I understand what you don't understand, that the short video presents only an introduction and includes one of the earliest attempts to refute the argument. What you also don't know is that the ontological argument has an ongoing career, most recently in the hands of contemporary philosopher Alvin Plantinga.
...

I stopped doing homework for tough guys in the fifth grade. Next time look it up yourself.

 

[devildavid]

Because it changes people's lives. You get it when you receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and are born again.



Remember when Nancy Pelosi said "We need to pass it to see what's in it"? That is the definition of a stool sample.

So it's a package deal? It comes with the Jesus Christ package? What does it mean to "receive" Jesus Christ?

 

[devildavid]

You're speaking about things you don't understand. I remember the day I received the Spirit. Haven't been the same since.

If this is the result, maybe you should give the spirit back.

 

[Tim the plumber]

Answered at #98:

I stopped doing homework for tough guys in the fifth grade. Next time look it up yourself.

Did you watch the video before puting it up?

Have you eveer watched the video?[5]

Why did you put up a video that makes it very clear that the argument is rubbish? Especially as, if it has this ongoing career then you will have much better (for you) videos out there. You know it your argument is drivel. You, at some level understand this as is made plian by your evaisions.