Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

[Objective Voice]

What part of not part of the FBI's mandate do you not understand. I suggest you read the Rosenstein Comey memo.

If you do you will find.

Former Attorney General Mukasey, former Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, former Attorney General Eric Holder, former Deputy Attorney Generals Judge Laurence Silberman, Gorelick, Thompson, and Ayer ALL heavily criticized Comey's decision to usurp the position of the DOJ and to make the decision on whether or not to prosecute HRC.


That wasn't the FBI job to decide.

Rosenstein's memo was essentially him disagreeing with who should have made the public announcement concerning the findings on the Hillary email investigation. There's nothing concerning a "mandate" mentioned in his memo. He speaks of the AG's authority being usurped as far as the FBI Director making the decision to close a case without prosecution, but he also makes it clear that the FBI is the investigating body within the DoJ. Furthermore, Rosenstein complains that Comey didn't follow established procedure where the AG has a "conflict of interest" in federal investigations and that's where his disagreement with Comey making his public announcement truly lay. Otherwise, there's no "mandate" that I can see; just a customary breach in protocol although from my reading of Ms. Page's testimony in light of Rosenstein's memo I'd say there was no breach but rather people who believed Comey took this extraordinary step on his own. I'd think if that were the case, AG Lynch would have stepped in and recounted Comey's statement/understanding of events in a public statement of her own. Since that didn't happen...:shrug:

As for the FBI deciding if there was sufficient evidence to charge Hillary with a crime, per Lisa Page's testimony both the FBI and the DoJ were in agreement on that point. So, there was no arbitrary decision made by the FBI not to indict.

 

[haymarket]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

I didn't bother with the rest of this nonsense.

Which is all we need to know about you.

 

[haymarket]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

I post a serious observation and you post ridiculous nonsense. Typical :roll:

That is the most serious response you will ever receive.

And fitting too.

 

[Atomic Kid]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

If she was worried about her kids and being a good parent she should not have been F****** Strzok. I'm sure Strzok was reluctant because he wanted to be a great parent too. :roll::lamo

Two years and counting and still no collusion. :lamo

Clueless Trumpsters like yourself are about the last people on earth that should be passing moral judgements on anyone.

 

[SLC]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

That is the most serious response you will ever receive.

And fitting too.

Yep you have nothing to contribute. :lol:

 

[SLC]

Rosenstein's memo was essentially him disagreeing with who should have made the public announcement concerning the findings on the Hillary email investigation. There's nothing concerning a "mandate" mentioned in his memo. He speaks of the AG's authority being usurped as far as the FBI Director making the decision to close a case without prosecution, but he also makes it clear that the FBI is the investigating body within the DoJ. Furthermore, Rosenstein complains that Comey didn't follow established procedure where the AG has a "conflict of interest" in federal investigations and that's where his disagreement with Comey making his public announcement truly lay. Otherwise, there's no "mandate" that I can see; just a customary breach in protocol although from my reading of Ms. Page's testimony in light of Rosenstein's memo I'd say there was no breach but rather people who believed Comey took this extraordinary step on his own. I'd think if that were the case, AG Lynch would have stepped in and recounted Comey's statement/understanding of events in a public statement of her own. Since that didn't happen...:shrug:

As for the FBI deciding if there was sufficient evidence to charge Hillary with a crime, per Lisa Page's testimony both the FBI and the DoJ were in agreement on that point. So, there was no arbitrary decision made by the FBI not to indict.

Mukasey: observed that the Director "stepped way out of his job in disclosing the recommendation in that manner" because the FBI Director" does not make that decision"

If it isn't his job obviously he does not have a mandate to do what he did. Even Eric Holder said "It violated long standing Justice Department polices".


mandate.
[ˈmanˌdāt]
NOUN

1.an official order or commission to do something.


synonyms:

instruction · directive · direction · decree · command · order ·

[2.the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.


IT WASN'T the FBI's mandate to decide whether or not to indict. The FBI's job is to find edvidence and to present that evidence to the DoJ and its their job to decide to indict or not. As Mukasey said Comey "stepped way out of his job" and "the director doesn't make that decision."

 

[haymarket]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

Yep you have nothing to contribute. :lol:

When has that ever stopped anyone here? You and me included. :2wave:eace

 

[Vern]

I could ask you how many "bombshells" you encountered that blew up in you liberal faces over 2+ yrs that Trump colluded with Russia. Yep all of them.

er uh BF, the investigation isn't over. Anyhoo, we see these conservative "bombshells" fairly regularly. Lets review. You're in another "bombshell" thread started by someone who cant even quote the "bombshell".

I'm not your secretary read the transcript for yourself. I posted where you can find it.

Try reading pages 1-370

Yep, another conservative who doesn't understand how debate works. Lets look at a left leaning "bombshell" thread.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...rported-russian-meeting.html?highlight=prague

If this turns out to be true it is quite the "bombshell". But if you read the thread the responses from left leaning posters is rather muted. I see "if true...". I see questions if it can verified by his passport. I see someone saying "wait until its verified". You see BF, we're not desperately looking to have lies spoon-fed us verified the way conservatives do because first there is no "equal but opposite" version of the conservative media. We just don't respond to lies, spin and hyperbole like you guys.

And BF, it takes me literally seconds to find other conservative "bombshell" threads
Ocasio-Cortez, chief of staff illegally moved $885K in campaign contributions 'off the books,' FEC c
House Votes in Favor of Illegal Immigrant Voting

I actually got this thread shutdown for asking for any updates less than 3 months after it started
Feds received whistleblower evidence in 2017 alleging Clinton Foundation wrongdoing

 

[Objective Voice]

Mukasey: observed that the Director "stepped way out of his job in disclosing the recommendation in that manner" because the FBI Director" does not make that decision"

If it isn't his job obviously he does not have a mandate to do what he did. Even Eric Holder said "It violated long standing Justice Department polices".


mandate.
[ˈmanˌdāt]
NOUN

1.an official order or commission to do something.


synonyms:

instruction · directive · direction · decree · command · order ·

[2.the authority to carry out a policy or course of action, regarded as given by the electorate to a candidate or party that is victorious in an election.


IT WASN'T the FBI's mandate to decide whether or not to indict. The FBI's job is to find evidence and to present that evidence to the DoJ and its their job to decide to indict or not. As Mukasey said Comey "stepped way out of his job" and "the director doesn't make that decision."

And as I stated the FBI and DoJ were in agreement that there wasn't sufficient evidence to indict Hillary concerning the misuse of her emails or the inappropriateness of having a private email server. The only reason Comey got fired (or shall we say the "excuse given") was he made the public announcement on the email case instead of AG Lynch - something both agencies discussed beforehand per Lisa Page's testimony. So, it's not like the DoJ were in the dark on this. Still, if you want to consider that breaking "mandatory protocol", then so be it.

Bottom Line: Trump needed a reason to fire Comey and he got it.

 

[Born Free]

er uh BF, the investigation isn't over. Anyhoo, we see these conservative "bombshells" fairly regularly. Lets review. You're in another "bombshell" thread started by someone who cant even quote the "bombshell".

You had over two years of Bombshells that Trump colluded with Russia and every damn one blew up in your face. As for conservative "bombshells" I don't recall any bombshell from the Pubs that has been a dud yet.

Yep, another conservative who doesn't understand how debate works. Lets look at a left leaning "bombshell" thread.

Yeah that is why not one liberal will talk policy. You don't want to debate policy, all you have is failure to try and support.

If this turns out to be true it is quite the "bombshell". But if you read the thread the responses from left leaning posters is rather muted. I see "if true...". I see questions if it can verified by his passport. I see someone saying "wait until its verified". You see BF, we're not desperately looking to have lies spoon-fed us verified the way conservatives do because first there is no "equal but opposite" version of the conservative media. We just don't respond to lies, spin and hyperbole like you guys.

Yeah you don't respond to anything policy wise, you have nothing to respond with.

And BF, it takes me literally seconds to find other conservative "bombshell" threads

Is that all you got, christ I could post up proof of evidence that you claim over the last 2+ yrs that Trump colluded with the Russians of useless trash.

But for you the worst is yet to come. The phony Dossier that Hillary paid the Russians for.

 

[Vern]

You had over two years of Bombshells that Trump colluded with Russia and every damn one blew up in your face. As for conservative "bombshells" I don't recall any bombshell from the Pubs that has been a dud yet.

well BF thank you for assuring us you're right and I'm wrong. it is the perfect example of debate for conservatives. But BF, this forum is littered with Clinton Foundation "bombshells", Benghazi "bombshells", Uranium "bombshells". It was before my time but lets face it I'm sure it was littered with Birth Certificate "bombshells". And now instead of posting all these "librul bombshells" blowing up in my face, you are babbling about policy.

Yeah that is why not one liberal will talk policy. You don't want to debate policy, all you have is failure to try and support.

Yeah you don't respond to anything policy wise, you have nothing to respond with.

Yeah, I'm sure in your head these are quite the devastating rebuttals but I actually feel a bit sad for you.

Is that all you got, christ I could post up proof of evidence that you claim over the last 2+ yrs that Trump colluded with the Russians of useless trash.

But for you the worst is yet to come. The phony Dossier that Hillary paid the Russians for.

Yea, you're really not getting it that the investigation is not over yet. And you oddly seem to be ignoring the evidence we do know. And BF, constantly whining about the Steele Dossier changes nothing. It has been amazingly accurate.

 

[tres borrachos]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

If she was worried about her kids and being a good parent she should not have been F****** Strzok. I'm sure Strzok was reluctant because he wanted to be a great parent too. :roll::lamo

Two years and counting and still no collusion. :lamo

So cheating on your spouse means that you don't care about your children?

 

[wellwisher]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

It may well turn out to be and I look forward to seeing how it plays out. The timing is still suspicious. It looks for tit-for-tat scandal breaking. I see your collusion and raise you a misconduct. Hope nobody cries too much when Dem congressmen or senators release testimony transcripts and parts of the Mueller report.

MY concern is these transcripts came from testimony given last year. Congress and Washington insiders, especially on the committee, knew these facts a year ago, and acted like all was well for a year. The main stream media and Democrats continued to slander Trump, as though this evidence was not known. This brings to question whether current members of Congress should be accused of obstruction of justice and conspiracy. It is like you know John is innocent, but continue to crucify him in public, since nobody else knows the insider evidence, just yet. You expect to be able to bury this evidence. But one member breaks ranks, at great risk to himself, if this data is once again squashed by the swamp.

As far as the Mueller report, the original reason to investigate Trump was Russian collusion and election fraud. If this is not found, the rest of the detouring evidence is not admissible in court. It is like finding things not on a search warrant. It detours to fair off the original warrant. This extra stuff, amounts to a left wing scam, to use tax payer money, to pay for Democrat party opposition research, using the FBI and DOJ. It is connected to a Democrat version of Watergate; fruit of a poison tree.

This extra dirt research cannot be used in court, but could be used by the Democrats as part of their 2020 mud slinging campaign, to bias the voter pool. using what can be called government sanctioned research. Barr may not report this data, unless the Democrats refund the tax payers. This data is the property of Uncle Sam. This dirt does not belong to the DNC. If the Democrats use it, the Democrats may be charged with tax fraud. If they pay for it, after the fact, they will be charged with conspiracy.

Barr may decide to focus on the front end; Hillary-Democrat-Russian collusion, that started this scam, before he releases the Mueller report fully to the public. This new investigation, which is about to begin by handing out indictments, is being timed to peak in 2020. This investigation may help the Democrats thin down their presidential field.

Once the heads of the Democrat snake are severed, the zombie army will wake up. Trump would benefit if the zombie army awakens late summer 2020, in time for fall college. Progressive professors reinforced the false narratives, while the administrators give them with huge student debts. The bubble will burst as the awakening zombies start to panic.

 

[uptower]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

his brings to question whether current members of Congress should be accused of obstruction of justice and conspiracy. It is like you know John is innocent, but continue to crucify him in public, since nobody else knows the insider evidence, just yet. You expect to be able to bury this evidence. But one member breaks ranks, at great risk to himself, if this data is once again squashed by the swamp.

There's nothing in that testimony to suggest 'John' is innocent. And if congresspeople are responsible for 'obstruction' now, let's start with devin Nunes and the Republicans who've tried to hobble the Mueller investigation from the start.

 

[Born Free]

well BF thank you for assuring us you're right and I'm wrong. it is the perfect example of debate for conservatives. But BF, this forum is littered with Clinton Foundation "bombshells", Benghazi "bombshells", Uranium "bombshells". It was before my time but lets face it I'm sure it was littered with Birth Certificate "bombshells". And now instead of posting all these "librul bombshells" blowing up in my face, you are babbling about policy.

Yeah I know you can't talk policy because your guy was a complete failure. Put that aside, you libs for over 2 yrs have claimed you have proof positive Trump colluded with Russia. So I ask what were the names of the Russians and that also would tell me how many Russians were involved with the collusion. Now I ask what did these Russians and Trump collude to do to win the election. Yes these are questions!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, I'm sure in your head these are quite the devastating rebuttals but I actually feel a bit sad for you.

You feel a bit sad for me. I never feel sad for you, never. I know you still can't get over Crooked Hillary losing, and you have no proof of evidence of Trump collusion. I know your devastated but I don't feel a bit sad for you.

Yea, you're really not getting it that the investigation is not over yet. And you oddly seem to be ignoring the evidence we do know.

Really you have proof of evidence of Trump/Russian collusion, surly Mueller has that info, and the info that Adam Schiff says he has but will not tell us what he as. I take you can post up all this proof of evidence you and Schiff have.

And BF, constantly whining about the Steele Dossier changes nothing. It has been amazingly accurate.

Now you say the Dossier changes nothing, well for now their surly digging into it, and all the evidence from the closed hearings from fired FBI agents that under Obama's DOJ they were told to not indict Crooked Hillary. It sure seems to me the turntable is beginning to run the other way.

Stay tuned. Lots more entertainment to follow.

 

[Buzz62]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

Clueless Trumpsters like yourself are about the last people on earth that should be passing moral judgements on anyone.

And you call what went on with Kavenaugh "moral"?:roll:

 

[Vern]

Yeah I know you can't talk policy because your guy was a complete failure. Put that aside, you libs for over 2 yrs have claimed you have proof positive Trump colluded with Russia. So I ask what were the names of the Russians and that also would tell me how many Russians were involved with the collusion. Now I ask what did these Russians and Trump collude to do to win the election. Yes these are questions!!!!!!!!!!

You feel a bit sad for me. I never feel sad for you, never. I know you still can't get over Crooked Hillary losing, and you have no proof of evidence of Trump collusion. I know your devastated but I don't feel a bit sad for you.
Really you have proof of evidence of Trump/Russian collusion, surly Mueller has that info, and the info that Adam Schiff says he has but will not tell us what he as. I take you can post up all this proof of evidence you and Schiff have.
Now you say the Dossier changes nothing, well for now their surly digging into it, and all the evidence from the closed hearings from fired FBI agents that under Obama's DOJ they were told to not indict Crooked Hillary. It sure seems to me the turntable is beginning to run the other way.

Stay tuned. Lots more entertainment to follow.

“wah wah policy” “wah wah Hillary” "wah wah collusion didn’t do nuttin.” Er uh BF, see how you’re flailing off in every direction instead of addressing the fact that I’ve posted several examples of “bombshells” threads from conservatives that blew up in their faces. Its quite telling that you felt the need to blurt out a bunch of “narratives” instead of replying in an honest and intelligent fashion. You should ask why have an emotional need to flail and deflect and (this is key) why you suddenly need to downplay effects of collusion.

BF, deflecting is not debate. Its deflecting.

 

[Born Free]

“wah wah policy” “wah wah Hillary” "wah wah collusion didn’t do nuttin.” Er uh BF, see how you’re flailing off in every direction instead of addressing the fact that I’ve posted several examples of “bombshells” threads from conservatives that blew up in their faces. Its quite telling that you felt the need to blurt out a bunch of “narratives” instead of replying in an honest and intelligent fashion. You should ask why have an emotional need to flail and deflect and (this is key) why you suddenly need to downplay effects of collusion.

BF, deflecting is not debate. Its deflecting.

Yeah I know you can't answer, because you don't have one. The only reason you want the EC to be eliminated is because you lost. And the only damn reason you want to change the SC is because you lost. If you can't win change the rules.

 

[Vern]

Yeah I know you can't answer, because you don't have one. The only reason you want the EC to be eliminated is because you lost. And the only damn reason you want to change the SC is because you lost. If you can't win change the rules.

wow, you're flailing about even more things completely unrelated to my point. A point that I proved by the way. BF, you just don't understand the concept of debate like most if not all conservatives. At least they try to pretend they're debating.

 

[Geoist]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

And you call what went on with Kavenaugh "moral"?:roll:

Yeah, victims of sexual assault should learn to keep their mouths shut. :roll:

 

[Geoist]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

So, after 34 pages of this thread has anyone presented a damning quote from Lisa Page? Is the staff at Fox News still reading it?

 

[Born Free]

wow, you're flailing about even more things completely unrelated to my point. A point that I proved by the way. BF, you just don't understand the concept of debate like most if not all conservatives. At least they try to pretend they're debating.

The problem is you don't have an answer and if you did answer truthfully you would have to agree with me.

I repeat

Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
Yeah I know you can't answer, because you don't have one. The only reason you want the EC to be eliminated is because you lost. And the only damn reason you want to change the SC is because you lost. If you can't win change the rules.

 

[Buzz62]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

Yeah, victims of sexual assault should learn to keep their mouths shut. :roll:

People who LIE about sexual assault for political gain...should be imprisoned.

 

[Geoist]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

People who LIE about sexual assault for political gain...should be imprisoned.

Yes, they should. No evidence Ford lied. Meanwhile, Kavanaugh lied about even the little things during the hearing (Devil's Triangle is a 'drinking game'? Absolute bull**** with no evidence. It is a threesome). "Boofing" is farting? It makes no sense under the context of what he wrote. He clearly meant anal sex.

 

[Buzz62]

Re: Doug Collins Releases Ex-FBI Lawyer Lisa Page’s Interview Transcripts

Yes, they should. No evidence Ford lied. Meanwhile, Kavanaugh lied about even the little things during the hearing (Devil's Triangle is a 'drinking game'? Absolute bull**** with no evidence. It is a threesome). "Boofing" is farting? It makes no sense under the context of what he wrote. He clearly meant anal sex.

I think you need to drag your mind out of the gutter.