"Countries With Stricter Gun Laws Have Less Murders"

[CaughtInThe]

If he's able to get inside the home him having a gun wouldn't make a difference, he would just strangle her to death.

if he has a gun all he has to do is wait until she's out and about.

or, hell, he can shoot her through the window in her own house. hard for a hammer to do that.

 

[DebateChallenge]

which some do.

and those same teenagers are gunned down if the ex just hides and shots them all.

So your idea of a perfect world is a world where nobody has guns but where all women who have abusive exes have big teenage bodyguards.

 

[DebateChallenge]

if he has a gun all he has to do is wait until she's out and about.

That's when she could be carrying.

or, hell, he can shoot her through the window in her own house. hard for a hammer to do that.

Provided that he's able to get a shot at her when she's in a position where he can shoot her through a window and he is a good shot and has a highly accurate rifle.

 

[CaughtInThe]

So your idea of a perfect world is a world where nobody has guns but where all women who have abusive exes have big teenage bodyguards.

what? i never said that.

 

[CaughtInThe]

That's when she could be carrying.


Provided that he's able to get a shot at her when she's in a position where he can shoot her through a window and he is a good shot and has a highly accurate rifle.

wow. so you don't even know that people can shoot each other in the back out in public? you ever heard of drive bys?

wow. so you don't think people can shoot each other through windows? that's like totally crazy.

 

[DebateChallenge]

what? i never said that.

You might not've said that exactly but its the impression you give with your posts.

 

[CaughtInThe]

You might not've said that exactly but its the impression you give with your posts.

i can't control what's in your head.

 

[DebateChallenge]

wow. so you don't even know that people can shoot each other in the back out in public? you ever heard of drive bys?

Sure they can, your point?

wow. so you don't think people can shoot each other through windows? that's like totally crazy.

Depending on the distance and position of the shooter, the window, and the victim shooting somebody through a window can take considerable skill, or perhaps you've been watching too many movies and never trained with real firearms. Although there are some exceptions, in real life most bad guys are lousy shots.

 

[DebateChallenge]

i can't control what's in your head.

So what do you want?

 

[Rich2018]

Well if you want to compare the USA to another western country Brazil would be such a country, after all Brazil is a western country, its located in the western hemisphere and its part of the americas so for all intents and purposes it is a western country so if you want your comparison to be based on geographical location Brazil would be an excellent comparison. You yourself pointed out how Brazil has strict gun laws and a murder rate that's sky high so you did my work for me, thank you.
Mexico is another western country that has really strict gun laws and a high murder rate. There are many other examples as well.

No, Brazil is not a peer country to the USA, neither is Mexico.

South Africa undeveloped? Looks quite developed to me.

But the people who did the "developing" no longer run the country.


South Africa is slipping back into the third world because of political instability, corruption and general incompetence.

 

[DebateChallenge]

No, Brazil is not a peer country to the USA, neither is Mexico.

You said "western" countries. Both Brazil and Mexico are geographically in the west.

But the people who did the "developing" no longer run the country.


South Africa is slipping back into the third world because of political instability, corruption and general incompetence.

Every country has its ups and downs, your point?

 

[TurtleDude]

And when I do, you'll whine about how I'm just advancing the situation because (insert imaginary motivation here).

Ironically, this is the exact OPPOSITE of what they should have taught you in law school about 'how to argue'.

still no solutions.

 

[TurtleDude]

So what do you want?

no gun owners

 

[Rich2018]

You said "western" countries. Both Brazil and Mexico are geographically in the west.

But culturally they are not "Western" countries

They aren't geogrphically "western" countries if you like in Japan either

Every country has its ups and downs, your point?

You think black majority rule in South Africa was a temporary "down"

 

[Threegoofs]

still no solutions.

Gun control legislation.

That’s the solution.

 

[TurtleDude]

Gun control legislation.

That’s the solution.

that's as stupid as saying medicine is the solution for disease. Its generic and vacuous

 

[Threegoofs]

that's as stupid as saying medicine is the solution for disease. Its generic and vacuous

But true.

And it’s no more stupid than saying gun control doesn’t work....which has been said here many, many times.

Yale. LOL

 

[Rich2018]

But true.

And it’s no more stupid than saying gun control doesn’t work....which has been said here many, many times.

Yale. LOL

More accurately saying gun control WILL not work.

 

[zsu2357]

=Threegoofs;1071400086]Every time I discuss any aspect of gun control, you go crying like a toddler who’s ice cream cone was threatened.

You guys only seem to want to discuss more "common sense" gun laws. We say no more, you're the one crying.

I also find it odd that you don’t grasp that one can have a serious problem with solutions that are not satisfying for everyone.

When you say "satisfying for everyone" what you mean is satisfying for you guys. The Confiscationalist (thought I would try to coin a new phrase) To much? Yeah.

 

[Rich2018]

You guys only seem to want to discuss more "common sense" gun laws. We say no more, you're the one crying.

When you say "satisfying for everyone" what you mean is satisfying for you guys. The Confiscationalist (thought I would try to coin a new phrase) To much? Yeah.

The gun owners are the ones with the hysterical wailing on how only guns can preserve their life, liberty, property and virtue.

 

[zsu2357]

The gun owners are the ones with the hysterical wailing on how only guns can preserve their life, liberty, property and virtue.

And you're the ones touching it off. If you guys weren't always screaming about guns this and that there wouldn't be any "hysterical wailing" from anyone.

 

[Threegoofs]

And you're the ones touching it off. If you guys weren't always screaming about guns this and that there wouldn't be any "hysterical wailing" from anyone.

Except for the kids, writhing in pain because they were shot.


But who cares about those poor saps, amirite? Probably gang members.

 

[Rich2018]

And you're the ones touching it off. If you guys weren't always screaming about guns this and that there wouldn't be any "hysterical wailing" from anyone.

We'd just continue suffering the carnage caused daily by guns...

 

[vegas giants]

And you're the ones touching it off. If you guys weren't always screaming about guns this and that there wouldn't be any "hysterical wailing" from anyone.

Those people with dead kids are always crying. Jeeeeez

 

[DebateChallenge]

But culturally they are not "Western" countries

Neither is Australia or Japan or the UK or the rest of Europe, but those are the countries the gun banners always like to compare the US to.

They aren't geogrphically "western" countries if you like in Japan either

They are part of the Americas, Japan is not and neither is Australia or Europe.

You think black majority rule in South Africa was a temporary "down"

South Africa might be going through some rough times right now but all countries do.
And aside from South Africa there are many other countries that have stricter gun laws and yet a higher murder rate than the USA.