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Coronavirus' spread in GOP territory

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Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Coronavirus first spread in the United States as a mostly coastal and big-city scourge, sparing many rural areas, small towns and even small cities. Translated into U.S. political geography: The virus hit Democratic areas first.

No more. An Associated Press analysis of coronavirus case data shows the virus has moved — and is spreading quickly — into Republican areas, a new path with broad potential political ramifications.

States that President Donald Trump won in the 2016 election account for about 75% of the new cases, a trend that has accelerated since the end of May. Counties that voted for Trump in 2016 have seen cases and deaths rising — now seeing an impact nearly even with counties that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The virus’s spread into red America could scramble partisan divisions over the disease. In the first phase, the virus was an undeniable reality for many Democrats, and it largely fell to Democratic governors and mayors to issue the strictest stay-at-home orders that helped slow the economy to a crawl.

Trump’s base, meanwhile, wasn’t so directly affected. His supporters have been less likely to support preventive measures, more likely to believe dangers were exaggerated and less likely to worry about friends or family contracting the virus. Some Republican governors followed the president’s lead, taking longer to issue stay-at-home orders, making the orders less strict when they did, and then more eagerly relaxing the limits on business operations in late April and May.

Already the latest surge is forcing some GOP governors to reverse course. It remains unclear whether it will also force GOP voters to reassess their opinion on the virus and their leaders’ handling of the crisis.

New York’s Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, last week pulled no punches in seeking some vindication for himself and other Democrats who battled the virus first and faced skepticism from Trump and other Republicans.

“You played politics with this virus, and you lost,” he said on CNN, indirectly addressing Republicans who downplayed the virus. “You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House: ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business. This is all Democratic hyperbole.’”

“It was never politics,” Cuomo said. “It was always science.”
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We're not going to beat COVID-19 as long as we continue to treat this as a political argument rather than a national public health crisis.
 
JacksinPA said:
We're not going to beat COVID-19 as long as we continue to treat this as a political argument rather than a national public health crisis.
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Liberal states are foam finger #1 in COVID cases, and it's not even close, especially New York.
 
JacksinPA said:
Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Coronavirus first spread in the United States as a mostly coastal and big-city scourge, sparing many rural areas, small towns and even small cities. Translated into U.S. political geography: The virus hit Democratic areas first.

No more. An Associated Press analysis of coronavirus case data shows the virus has moved — and is spreading quickly — into Republican areas, a new path with broad potential political ramifications.

States that President Donald Trump won in the 2016 election account for about 75% of the new cases, a trend that has accelerated since the end of May. Counties that voted for Trump in 2016 have seen cases and deaths rising — now seeing an impact nearly even with counties that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The virus’s spread into red America could scramble partisan divisions over the disease. In the first phase, the virus was an undeniable reality for many Democrats, and it largely fell to Democratic governors and mayors to issue the strictest stay-at-home orders that helped slow the economy to a crawl.

Trump’s base, meanwhile, wasn’t so directly affected. His supporters have been less likely to support preventive measures, more likely to believe dangers were exaggerated and less likely to worry about friends or family contracting the virus. Some Republican governors followed the president’s lead, taking longer to issue stay-at-home orders, making the orders less strict when they did, and then more eagerly relaxing the limits on business operations in late April and May.

Already the latest surge is forcing some GOP governors to reverse course. It remains unclear whether it will also force GOP voters to reassess their opinion on the virus and their leaders’ handling of the crisis.

New York’s Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, last week pulled no punches in seeking some vindication for himself and other Democrats who battled the virus first and faced skepticism from Trump and other Republicans.

“You played politics with this virus, and you lost,” he said on CNN, indirectly addressing Republicans who downplayed the virus. “You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House: ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business. This is all Democratic hyperbole.’”

“It was never politics,” Cuomo said. “It was always science.”
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We're not going to beat COVID-19 as long as we continue to treat this as a political argument rather than a national public health crisis.
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California is GOP territory now?
 
If a Democrat says the sky is blue, Fox, then Trump, then his cult will say no it's green.. Saying it's blue is fake news and a hoax.

That's what happened with this virus, it hit Dem states 1st, they said we're going to social distance and wear masks.. Fox, and Trump and his cult called it a hoax, and made fun of the precautions..

The tables have turned. This virus don't care about politics or state borders.
 
Fishking said:
Liberal states are foam finger #1 in COVID cases, and it's not even close, especially New York.
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Of course a conservative Trump supporter never stops to think that NYC is the world's largest hub that receives international flights from all over the world. The virus that came to NY didn't come from China, it came from Europe and that's a fact. Then there's the little fact that New York City alone has a population of 8.4 million people living in apartments in close quarters taking subways every day back and forth to work. How many cities in your state has a population of 8.4 million people in 302 square miles?.

New York took a major blow and Republican states said, "oh well, so sad". They needed money and what did Mitch McConnell have to say about that? A Senator from the state that takes more money from the federal government than they ever contributed? He said 'too bad, so sad, claim bankruptcy'. But guess where all that money given to Kentucky every year comes from? IT COMES FROM NEW YORK. It's New York that pays MORE than their share of taxes every year to support rundown bankrupt southern states that always have their hands out for free money but refuse to pay back in kind during times of emergencies like New York was suffering through.

Andrew Cuomo pulled everyone together. He formed a coalition with NJ and Ct and together we all worked to overcome the odds. Now it's the south's turn and guess what? When and if any state needs the help and needs the resources, New York will be there for them, no questions asked. Done deal.
 
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JacksinPA said:
Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Coronavirus first spread in the United States as a mostly coastal and big-city scourge, sparing many rural areas, small towns and even small cities. Translated into U.S. political geography: The virus hit Democratic areas first.

No more. An Associated Press analysis of coronavirus case data shows the virus has moved — and is spreading quickly — into Republican areas, a new path with broad potential political ramifications.

States that President Donald Trump won in the 2016 election account for about 75% of the new cases, a trend that has accelerated since the end of May. Counties that voted for Trump in 2016 have seen cases and deaths rising — now seeing an impact nearly even with counties that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The virus’s spread into red America could scramble partisan divisions over the disease. In the first phase, the virus was an undeniable reality for many Democrats, and it largely fell to Democratic governors and mayors to issue the strictest stay-at-home orders that helped slow the economy to a crawl.

Trump’s base, meanwhile, wasn’t so directly affected. His supporters have been less likely to support preventive measures, more likely to believe dangers were exaggerated and less likely to worry about friends or family contracting the virus. Some Republican governors followed the president’s lead, taking longer to issue stay-at-home orders, making the orders less strict when they did, and then more eagerly relaxing the limits on business operations in late April and May.

Already the latest surge is forcing some GOP governors to reverse course. It remains unclear whether it will also force GOP voters to reassess their opinion on the virus and their leaders’ handling of the crisis.

New York’s Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, last week pulled no punches in seeking some vindication for himself and other Democrats who battled the virus first and faced skepticism from Trump and other Republicans.

“You played politics with this virus, and you lost,” he said on CNN, indirectly addressing Republicans who downplayed the virus. “You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House: ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business. This is all Democratic hyperbole.’”

“It was never politics,” Cuomo said. “It was always science.”
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We're not going to beat COVID-19 as long as we continue to treat this as a political argument rather than a national public health crisis.
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And yet this post drips partisanship. :eek:
 
I’ve given up on this debate.

The right claims this is all an issue in liberal controlled areas, now liberals are saying this is a problem in conservative controlled areas.

In the meantime between all this foolishness we see the US as a whole account for single digits of the world’s population but headed north of 25% of the world’s cases.

Perhaps we are doomed.
 
HumblePi said:
Of course a conservative Trump supporter never stops to think that NYC is the world's largest hub that receives international flights from all over the world. The virus that came to NY didn't come from China, it came from Europe and that's a fact. Then there's the little fact that New York City alone has a population of 8.4 million people living in apartments in close quarters taking subways every day back and forth to work. How many cities in your state has a population of 8.4 million people in 302 square miles?.

New York took a major blow and Republican states said, "oh well, so sad". They needed money and what did Mitch McConnell have to say about that? A Senator from the state that takes more money from the federal government than they ever contributed? He said 'too bad, so sad, claim bankruptcy'. But guess where all that money given to Kentucky every year comes from? IT COMES FROM NEW YORK. It's New York that pays MORE than their share of taxes every year to support rundown bankrupt southern states that always have their hands out for free money but refuse to pay back in kind during times of emergencies like New York was suffering through.

Andrew Cuomo pulled everyone together. He formed a coalition with NJ and Ct and together we all worked to overcome the odds. Now it's the south's turn and guess what? When and if any state needs the help and needs the resources, New York will be there for them, no questions asked. Done deal.
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Cuomo has offered to send doctors, nurses & supplies to any state that has requested help. So far I haven't heard of any red state asking for help yet.
 
OrphanSlug said:
I’ve given up on this debate.

The right claims this is all an issue in liberal controlled areas, now liberals are saying this is a problem in conservative controlled areas.

In the meantime between all this foolishness we see the US as a whole account for single digits of the world’s population but headed north of 25% of the world’s cases.

Perhaps we are doomed.
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At the minimum I see another Great Depression. And a housing crisis. And hyperinflation. And the Republicans will only blame it all on the Democrats.
 
JacksinPA said:
Cuomo has offered to send doctors, nurses & supplies to any state that has requested help. So far I haven't heard of any red state asking for help yet.
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It's always easy for others to armchair quarterback from thousands of miles away from what was the epicenter of the virus in the US. It was easy for them to criticize, mock, laugh at them with contempt and scorn, and all because the people that did those things are not real Americans no matter how many American flags they wave or wear on their tee-shirts. These people have no sense of community with the rest of the nation. They're selfish, spoiled, whiners that are contemptuous of 'librul' states.

We did all we could to warn them, to help them prepare, but did they listen? The time is here and they're going to find out that if they think it's really bad right now, they better think again, because what they're going through right now is just the tip of the iceberg. They will be crying out for help in a couple of weeks when they run out of ICU beds
 
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JacksinPA said:
Coronavirus''' spread in GOP territory, explained in 6 charts

Coronavirus first spread in the United States as a mostly coastal and big-city scourge, sparing many rural areas, small towns and even small cities. Translated into U.S. political geography: The virus hit Democratic areas first.

No more. An Associated Press analysis of coronavirus case data shows the virus has moved — and is spreading quickly — into Republican areas, a new path with broad potential political ramifications.

States that President Donald Trump won in the 2016 election account for about 75% of the new cases, a trend that has accelerated since the end of May. Counties that voted for Trump in 2016 have seen cases and deaths rising — now seeing an impact nearly even with counties that voted for Democrat Hillary Clinton.

The virus’s spread into red America could scramble partisan divisions over the disease. In the first phase, the virus was an undeniable reality for many Democrats, and it largely fell to Democratic governors and mayors to issue the strictest stay-at-home orders that helped slow the economy to a crawl.

Trump’s base, meanwhile, wasn’t so directly affected. His supporters have been less likely to support preventive measures, more likely to believe dangers were exaggerated and less likely to worry about friends or family contracting the virus. Some Republican governors followed the president’s lead, taking longer to issue stay-at-home orders, making the orders less strict when they did, and then more eagerly relaxing the limits on business operations in late April and May.

Already the latest surge is forcing some GOP governors to reverse course. It remains unclear whether it will also force GOP voters to reassess their opinion on the virus and their leaders’ handling of the crisis.

New York’s Democratic governor, Andrew Cuomo, last week pulled no punches in seeking some vindication for himself and other Democrats who battled the virus first and faced skepticism from Trump and other Republicans.

“You played politics with this virus, and you lost,” he said on CNN, indirectly addressing Republicans who downplayed the virus. “You told the people of this state, you told the people of this country, the White House: ‘Don’t worry about it. Go about your business. This is all Democratic hyperbole.’”

“It was never politics,” Cuomo said. “It was always science.”
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We're not going to beat COVID-19 as long as we continue to treat this as a political argument rather than a national public health crisis.
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Covid-19 is not a crisis. It never was.
 
HumblePi said:
Of course a conservative Trump supporter never stops to think that NYC is the world's largest hub that receives international flights from all over the world. The virus that came to NY didn't come from China, it came from Europe and that's a fact. Then there's the little fact that New York City alone has a population of 8.4 million people living in apartments in close quarters taking subways every day back and forth to work. How many cities in your state has a population of 8.4 million people in 302 square miles?.

New York took a major blow and Republican states said, "oh well, so sad". They needed money and what did Mitch McConnell have to say about that? A Senator from the state that takes more money from the federal government than they ever contributed? He said 'too bad, so sad, claim bankruptcy'. But guess where all that money given to Kentucky every year comes from? IT COMES FROM NEW YORK. It's New York that pays MORE than their share of taxes every year to support rundown bankrupt southern states that always have their hands out for free money but refuse to pay back in kind during times of emergencies like New York was suffering through.

Andrew Cuomo pulled everyone together. He formed a coalition with NJ and Ct and together we all worked to overcome the odds. Now it's the south's turn and guess what? When and if any state needs the help and needs the resources, New York will be there for them, no questions asked. Done deal.
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That sounds like a lot of excuses there, pal. Did China, Europe, the GOP, or Trump make Cuomo force nursing homes to take COVID patients as well? Any more excuses?
 
Fishking said:
That sounds like a lot of excuses there, pal. Did China, Europe, the GOP, or Trump make Cuomo force nursing homes to take COVID patients as well? Any more excuses?
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Again with the nursing homes, this has been discussed, explained, apologize, revisited and hashed for weeks ad nauseam. I'm not going to waste my time explaining this again for the twelfth time. Just try harder to come up with some new material next time.

Incidentally, I don't know you, I'm not your 'pal' and I don't want to be referred to as your 'pal' in the future, good enough?
 
HumblePi said:
Again with the nursing homes, this has been discussed, explained, apologize, revisited and hashed for weeks ad nauseam. I'm not going to waste my time explaining this again for the twelfth time. Just try harder to come up with some new material next time.

Incidentally, I don't know you, I'm not your 'pal' and I don't want to be referred to as your 'pal' in the future, good enough?
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Does apologizing make anyone not dead and does it no longer count as making a stupid decision?
 
Fishking said:
Does apologizing make anyone not dead and does it no longer count as making a stupid decision?
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Fishking said:
Does apologizing make anyone not dead and does it no longer count as making a stupid decision?
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Cuomo apologizing?
From the news coverage I saw he was blame casting the results of his own covid decisions onto Republicans. :confused:

This seems much more in character for him.
 
Texas somehow thought they were immune. It's negligence on Abbots part. He did what he thought best even though he ignored all advice. This is the result when you listen to politicians and not medical experts.
 
yankintx said:
It is now

Your in denial
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Covid-19 is a non issue. It only targets 2 small demographics and even then is highly survivable.
 
beefheart said:
Let's see what you say when you get it.
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I'll say the same thing. This very forum has a couple covid-19 survivers who also say the hype is bull****.
 
Wayne Jr said:
I'll say the same thing. This very forum has a couple covid-19 survivers who also say the hype is bull****.
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They couldn't say otherwise if they were dead...
 
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