Civility Can Begin Again As Long As The Left Is In Control...

[Tangmo]

Um, what? lolz
Nice leap.

eta: For the DP posters who have read this far...
Don't you just love how some threads purposely devolve?
:lamo

Reread my post plse thx which I edited once I noticed the crossup in editing the cutting and pasting of a couple of open tabs at DP. Otherwise you'd be right for once in your life. But you're not.

My post addresses the issues of the thread and topic directly thx.

 

[eohrnberger]

Give me a break. Big difference between this incident and one Congresswoman's single over the top comment and Trump's history of supporting violence. Look to your own house.

There is a well established track record of leftist activists harassing their political opponents in public.

There is no established track record of Trump supporters doing the same. There is in fact an established track record of physical violence leftists have committed on those Trump supporters.

Sorry to be the one to inform you of these facts. I know that you probably don't like them, but facts are facts and don't care about your feelings.

 

[eohrnberger]

Civility in the face of fascism is cowardice.

What fascism from the right?

The only fascism we are seeing is from the left.

 

[Nickyjo]

There is a well established track record of leftist activists harassing their political opponents in public.

There is no established track record of Trump supporters doing the same. There is in fact an established track record of physical violence leftists have committed on those Trump supporters.

Sorry to be the one to inform you of these facts. I know that you probably don't like them, but facts are facts and don't care about your feelings.

Let’s see... Trump called for violence, said he’d pay legal bills... noted the good white supremacists... as I recall, a guy with a car killed someone... you might have noticed some instances of violence against Muslims here and there... nah, you wouldn’t notice... but it is amazing what you can find on Google, including a map indicating where these kinds of incidents have occurred

 

[markjs]

Yes. Islamic terrorists aren't even as bad as American liberals.

And this right here is why civility is impossible with Trumplings. It's simply beyond you "people", a subhuman class of poorly educated fools that looks at the entire opposition as the enemy. The Lberal mistake is to think you capable of civil discourse, which is largely beyond your kind's capacity.

 

[eohrnberger]

Let’s see... Trump called for violence, said he’d pay legal bills... noted the good white supremacists... as I recall, a guy with a car killed someone... you might have noticed some instances of violence against Muslims here and there... nah, you wouldn’t notice... but it is amazing what you can find on Google, including a map indicating where these kinds of incidents have occurred

Sure, Trump said that, and no one took him up on it. Prove this assertion wrong.

Trump has no evidence of connections with any White Supremacist groups, so there's no hanging what some nut job did on him.

RE violence against Muslims, again, not campaign connected, not campaign endorsed.

Quite different when a Dem congress woman incites public confrontation and aggression against her political opponents, and her supporters take her up on her challenge, not once, not twice but more times than that.

Quite different the silence on AntiFa from the Dems and the left, the same as an endorsement and support.

So there's no 'moral authority' from the Dems and their now radical and violent extremist leftists.

 

[marke]

Good to know you think Hillary Clinton is an upstanding person, and Bill is not a rapist.

After all, neither of them have been convicted, so we should just assume the accusations are false, right?

Dr. Ford had serious problems finding others to speak up and corroborate her story. Hillary had had a history of difficulties in trying to shut witnesses up which corroborate the accounts of dozens of abused women molested by Bill. Clinton is a lot like Cosby, both are serial abusers.

 

[marke]

I missed the uncivilized rioting. Was anyone punched, cars set on fire? Was the democratic leadership involved, did they offer to pay the legal bills of people who were arrested for violent actions?

And false accusations are a Trump specialty. Get serious.

You missed the rioting because those facts are not aired on stations you are allowed by your party to watch.

 

[Manc Skipper]

What fascism from the right?

The only fascism we are seeing is from the left.

You still don't know what fascism is or where it's from.

 

[Yes_Minister]

What's a extremist conservative? Someone who really, really, supports limited responsible gov't, reasonable taxes, freedom, and liberty? lol

Like you care about the rights of anyone who is not a conservative, conservative small government is a lie, conservatives intentionally drive up the debt with massive military spending and corporate tax cuts, as an excuse to cut social programs, you guys support almost unlimited power when it comes to police and military. Everyone has to chip in when the GOP wants a war in Iraq so Halliburton can get some no bid contracts and conservatives think citizens rights disappear in the presence of a cop, you guys never extend second amendment rights to guys like Philando Castile. Not to mention you guys always wanting the government to enforce your personal religious values on everyone else.

Your side only oppose the government helping poor people, the government starting wars for profit and oppressing people in the US your side does not like, seems okay with your movement. Conservatives seem fine with the US having the largest prison population in the world, because hey, mass incarceration is okay if it helps a private prison CEO get a bonus right?

Should anyone be civil to people who think they should be an over class and dominate others? Your side does want equal rights, you want privileges that apply to conservatives and no one else.

 

[eohrnberger]

You still don't know what fascism is or where it's from.

LOLz. You are wrong there.

There are arguments whether the Fascism ideology is more in alignment with liberalism or conservatism. It is typically more in alignment with the goals of modern liberalism, namely, supremacy of the state over the individual and using the government to enforce a their social agenda, this is typically not modern conservatism goals or social agenda, where more typically it is the supremacy of the individual over the state.

Then there's tactics.

AntiFa is going around intimidating people on the street, disrupting events of their political opposition, destroying property in riots, exactly the same tactics the Brown Shirts employed.

Then there's same group think, where no dissenting opinions are allowed. All we have to do is watch how various modern liberal factions are 'eating their own' when one of their own doesn't toe the political line.

 

[Nickyjo]

Sure, Trump said that, and no one took him up on it. Prove this assertion wrong.

++ At least one person was punched by a Trump supporter.

Trump has no evidence of connections with any White Supremacist groups, so there's no hanging what some nut job did on him.

RE violence against Muslims, again, not campaign connected, not campaign endorsed.

Quite different when a Dem congress woman incites public confrontation and aggression against her political opponents, and her supporters take her up on her challenge, not once, not twice but more times than that.

Quite different the silence on AntiFa from the Dems and the left, the same as an endorsement and support.

So there's no 'moral authority' from the Dems and their now radical and violent extremist leftists.

++ Might it kill you to acknowledge that there are idiots on both sides that have resorted to violence? Check out the spike in anti-Muslim hate crimes.

And as I recall, Pelosi condemned antifa.

 

[Nickyjo]

You missed the rioting because those facts are not aired on stations you are allowed by your party to watch.

m

Wow, I have been so blind... I do get a monthly memo from the DNC suggesting what media outlets to avoid, but it’s not an actual outright prohibition. Maybe I have been misinterpreting the messages. Thanks for the heads up.

 

[Hawkeye10]

m

Wow, I have been so blind... I do get a monthly memo from the DNC suggesting what media outlets to avoid, but it’s not an actual outright prohibition. Maybe I have been misinterpreting the messages. Thanks for the heads up.

The unwillingness to listen because they are sure that they are right but unfortunately they are actually mal educated twits is an epidemic problem in America these days.

We used to be better.

 

[Deuce]

What fascism from the right?

The only fascism we are seeing is from the left.

Fascism doesn't mean what you think it means.

 

[eohrnberger]

++ Might it kill you to acknowledge that there are idiots on both sides that have resorted to violence? Check out the spike in anti-Muslim hate crimes.

And as I recall, Pelosi condemned antifa.

There are idiots everywhere. Just this week we saw them clawing the door to the Supreme Court, and AntiFa blocking traffic in Portland, assaulting some old guy wanting to drive through, with the Portland government giving them tacit approval to continue either assaults, having withdrawn police intervention inn spite of AntiFa's lawlessness.

 

[beefheart]

of the House and/or Senate, according to Globalist Granny. Otherwise forget it, no civility, the left will be as scummy as ever.

https://www.breitbart.com/video/201...t-again-if-democrats-win-house-and-or-senate/

Breitbart, the news source for the angry and ignorant...

 

[Ahlevah]

Is that really worse than giving power to the alt-right?

Giving power to the alt right is when, say, TIME magazine publishes an article about how someone like Richard Spencer is relevant.

 

[Ahlevah]

Breitbart, the news source for the angry and ignorant...

Your logic is faulty. Breitbart's source was a clip from CNN of Hillary being a moron. No one--not even "Fake News CNN"--can falsify that.

 

[Nickyjo]

Fascism doesn't mean what you think it means.

As I read history, characteristics of fascism historically, whatever the theory, have included harkening back to some imagined exalted golden age (MAGA), faith in a strong man (“I alone can solve” problems), blaming of “the other” (Mexican rapists, false info on black/white homicide), love-fest political rallies featuring a leader already in power who attacks “enemies” to cheers of a crowd (Nuremberg), brutality (promises to kill the families of terrorists and do torture worse than waterboarding), physically restricting people because of their faith (ghettos and the Muslim ban), attacking “enemies of the people,” support for violence against the opposition (I’ll pay your legal bills), and a slight bit of buffunery by the leader (Do clips of Mussolini on the balcony seem familiar?)

Our saving graces are sane republicans, the media, and the Constitution.

 

[GDViking]

You ought to read Kirsten Powers, The Silencing.
Even you would be in for a rude awakening.
To our nation's men, "Shut up, and Stand up!" proves my point.
To our nation's rule of law... The illiberal Democratic Party and their delusional minions would have us believe that "I believe her" trumps the presumption of innocence.

Gee, that was easy.
Thanks for stopping by...

No the actual open minded conclusion was:

Is there enough evidence after all these decades to convict him beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law?
The answer would be no, does that prove he is innocent? Again, no...

Was there enough evidence to create serious doubts about his credibility to sit on the highest court in the land?

Abso****inglutly!!!

 

[OscarLevant]

I'm not a GOP'er, I'm conservative.

I'm also suspicious of your claim, no offense.

I was never a leftist, liberal, or whatever name you want to call them. And I am glad.

Like I said, if I believed half of that repubs/conservatives say about libs, I would still be a repub.

 

[GDViking]

LOLz. You are wrong there.

There are arguments whether the Fascism ideology is more in alignment with liberalism or conservatism. It is typically more in alignment with the goals of modern liberalism, namely, supremacy of the state over the individual and using the government to enforce a their social agenda, this is typically not modern conservatism goals or social agenda, where more typically it is the supremacy of the individual over the state.

Then there's tactics.

AntiFa is going around intimidating people on the street, disrupting events of their political opposition, destroying property in riots, exactly the same tactics the Brown Shirts employed.

Then there's same group think, where no dissenting opinions are allowed. All we have to do is watch how various modern liberal factions are 'eating their own' when one of their own doesn't toe the political line.

Sorry to burst your bubble with facts...
https://rense.com/general37/fascism.htm

 

[GDViking]

Like I said, if I believed half of that repubs/conservatives say about libs, I would still be a repub.

Personally I have never belonged to a party.

However in today's political climate I can not see how any sane intelligent independent would be supporting the right wing.

I have not moved in my political beliefs, but the right has gone so far right they have gone over the edge and I find myself firmly standing to the left of center...

 

[marke]

m

Wow, I have been so blind... I do get a monthly memo from the DNC suggesting what media outlets to avoid, but it’s not an actual outright prohibition. Maybe I have been misinterpreting the messages. Thanks for the heads up.

You were not told not to watch Fox News? I believe you. Have you ever been encouraged to avoid Fox News by democrats with talking faces?