Christian school teacher used AI and yearbook photos to make child pornography: Police

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Christian school teacher used AI and yearbook photos to make child pornography: Police

A teacher was arrested after he allegedly used yearbook photos of students at Beacon Christian Academy and morphed them into pornographic images. Similar cases are happening around the country.

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Those Christians sure know their morals. Defending kids from "groomers" like the LGBTQ and Drag Queens. Am I right?

Do not conflate The Word and its actual followers with those who do harm to themselves and others.

Those who inflict harm are not following The Word, and if they say they are they are lying, to others and possibly themselves.

 

[OlNate]

Nothing wrong with being proud of that, it is when they take their pride and use it to diminish people who are different than them.

EXAMPLE: I am a liberal SNOWFLAKE and proud of it. If anyone finds fault with that I just remind them I ham what I ham, not get all squishy and defensive. I would say those that do get all squishy and defensive aren't as sure of themselves as they let on.

In order to be proud of something, there needs to be an accomplishment. Are you proud of the leaves for turning in fall? Are you proud of water when it boils reliably at the boiling point? How proud are you that you have a big toe?

In your example, you're proud of the political stance you've come to. I don't blame you, you had to learn things, hopefully engage in independent, critical thinking, and take a stand. Those are all things to be proud of, because you did something.

Falling out of your mother's womb one color over another, one gender over another, one sexual orientation over another, or raised one religion over another is not *doing* anything. It's winning or losing the lottery. Nothing to be proud of on its own, and nothing to be ashamed of on its own.

Again, when marginalized people express identity-oriented pride, it's not just because of their identity, but rather what they accomplished despite it, even if that's just being happy being themselves when, for so long, just being themselves made them less than in society.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

In order to be proud of something, there needs to be an accomplishment. Are you proud of the leaves for turning in fall? Are you proud of water when it boils reliably at the boiling point? How proud are you that you have a big toe?

In your example, you're proud of the political stance you've come to. I don't blame you, you had to learn things, hopefully engage in independent, critical thinking, and take a stand. Those are all things to be proud of, because you did something.

Falling out of your mother's womb one color over another, one gender over another, one sexual orientation over another, or raised one religion over another is not *doing* anything. It's winning or losing the lottery. Nothing to be proud of on its own, and nothing to be ashamed of on its own.

Again, when marginalized people express identity-oriented pride, it's not just because of their identity, but rather what they accomplished despite it, even if that's just being happy being themselves when, for so long, just being themselves made them less than in society.

I am still proud of being a liberal SNOWFLAKE.

 

[OlNate]

It has nothing to do with accomplishments. If you don't understand that you need to

Yes, and I stand by that statement.

Sorry, pride is entirely driven by accomplishment. Pride in the absence of accomplishment is the ultimate example of participation trophy culture.

Be happy in who you are, everyone should be able to do that, but take pride in your accomplishments... not in something so arbitrary as what you were born with, that's meaningless. It's what you've done since that you can or can't take pride in.

 

[OlNate]

I am still proud of being a liberal SNOWFLAKE.

You are my favorite snowflake. lol

 

[btthegreat]

What interests me, is the first amendment constitutional question this sort of thing must have presented even before now. Remember to regulate the production, access and consumption of speech, it requires a compelling state interest be shown. Prior to the age of cyber-art , the compelling interest in regulating porn was based on the victimization of actors involved, not the purient interest of the consumer. There is no clear victim to protect, in computor generated image behind child porn. Nobody is exploited here. Yet the statutes still sit on the books and they get enforced.

I am sure that this question was argued and decided via appelate caselaw before AI, but I am curious what the rationale is now.

 

[btthegreat]

Sorry, pride is entirely driven by accomplishment. Pride in the absence of accomplishment is the ultimate example of participation trophy culture.

Be happy in who you are, everyone should be able to do that, but take pride in your accomplishments... not in something so arbitrary as what you were born with, that's meaningless. It's what you've done since that you can or can't take pride in.

This celebration of pride did not come out of a vaccumn. The 'accomplishment' to take pride in, when these marches were in their nascience, was in the act of coming out of the closet, in facing the hatred, the shunning and marginalization and both surviving then thriving as an openly gay or transperson. These parades celebrate a personal act that benefited a political and social movement . You are taking ownership and pride in the courage and grace with which you dealt with the personal risks of coming out.

Really hard to announce your pride in being gay, if you are sitting in the closet, hiding behind a 'beard'. Insofar as your argument applies to today's LBGTQ community, there is a lot less personal risk than there was.

 

[Ganondagan]

Sorry, pride is entirely driven by accomplishment. Pride in the absence of accomplishment is the ultimate example of participation trophy culture.

Be happy in who you are, everyone should be able to do that, but take pride in your accomplishments... not in something so arbitrary as what you were born with, that's meaningless. It's what you've done since that you can or can't take pride in.

Sorry you don't understand. You're going to have to take my word for it. I don't feel pride depends on accomplishments. Even if it did, it doesn't require me to make a brag list for you. Christians do not do good works for recognition or praise.

 

[Ganondagan]

Romans 12:16​

Live in harmony with one another. Do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly. Never be wise in your own sight.

Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight. Proverbs 3:5-6

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Even if it did, it doesn't require me to make a brag list for you

Yet you have been bragging about your pride. You don't see it, do you? Furthermore, are you going to keep at this page after page after page because there are those of us who see your pride as false pride by your own words?

Straight, white, conservative, Christian, male here, full of pride and apologizing for nothing!!!

While at the same time denigrating the pride of others...........

Many declarations of pride such as gay pride and black pride is based on attack of others, attacks such as white toxcity, and male toxcity, and straight toxcity. That is unhealthy pride...

And ignoring..............

Proverbs 11:2 “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.” Proverbs 16:5 “The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.” Proverbs 16:18 “Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.”

 

[OlNate]

This celebration of pride did not come out of a vaccumn. The 'accomplishment' to take pride in, when these marches were in their nascience, was in the act of coming out of the closet, in facing the hatred, the shunning and marginalization and both surviving then thriving as an openly gay or transperson. These parades celebrate a personal act that benefited a political and social movement . You are taking ownership and pride in the courage and grace with which you dealt with the personal risks of coming out.

Really hard to announce your pride in being gay, if you are sitting in the closet, hiding behind a 'beard'. Insofar as your argument applies to today's LBGTQ community, there is a lot less personal risk than there was.

I agree with all of this... and yet, the risk, while less, still exists, and that risk hasn't been a steady downward trend, as the last few years have demonstrated.

Hopefully you read far enough back to see where i made this distinction.

 

[OlNate]

Sorry you don't understand. You're going to have to take my word for it. I don't feel pride depends on accomplishments. Even if it did, it doesn't require me to make a brag list for you. Christians do not do good works for recognition or praise.

Yet here you are, making a bold statement about being proud to be a straight white Christian male. It appears you are now arguing with yourself. Sorry my simple question put you in that position.

For what it's worth, i hope you are proud of something that goes a little deeper than what you were given at birth.

 

[ElChupacabra]

What an awful story, and even though AI was used there are still 3 victims here.

I mean, these ended up distributed which means out there beyond control now.

Indeed. The other aspect here being all the many ways AI will be used, which will require vigilance in the digital sphere.

 

[maquiscat]

Well, actually it's not possible at all, because as the master of my own domain, I know myself to have always been agnostic at least, and most often a complete non-believer in the existence of a supernatural god.

What I meant is that prior to you stating as much, it was still within the realm of possibility, and that the point of what a Christian would supposedly do or not do was not sufficient to make it obvious that you were not.

Why are you so invested in me being a *real* Christian as opposed to the obvious fact that I'm not by my own declarations and conduct. After all, I'm a guy who originally signed up with the name "Moist Splooge" before I was forced to change it. Jesus would definitely not approve of dick and cum jokes.

I'm not invested in you being a Christian or not one. I am making a point that your statements are not as clear cut as to what any given Christian would do. IOW, your current username (I was unaware of your prior one when making my initial statements) is not as obviously stating, "I am not a Christian," as you portrayed it to be. Nor is the statement of what a Christian would deny. I constantly deny the Jesus and God that others put forth, because they are not the kind and loving Jesus and God that I know and commune with. Basically, and ironically, you were gatekeeping Christianity from the other side of the gate. I just pointed that out. Whether you are Christian or not doesn't affect me.

 

[Ganondagan]

Yet here you are, making a bold statement about being proud to be a straight white Christian male. It appears you are now arguing with yourself. Sorry my simple question put you in that position.

For what it's worth, i hope you are proud of something that goes a little deeper than what you were given at birth.

You didn't put me in any difficult position at all. I've explained my position again and again. I'm sorry you can't understand what's being said. Pride takes at least two different forms. Here we're disagreeing over an understanding of what pride actually is: is it authentic or hubristic, is it externally motivated or internally motivated. Does it depend on what I've done or on who I am.

Pride is not necessarily based on accomplishments, it can also mean being pleased with who and what we are. As a Christian I'm proud of being a child of God, having been given free will to choose to follow God or reject him, and of doing my best to live a righteous life according to His will. My pride comes before any accomplishments and is not dependent on them.

 

[maquiscat]

Do not conflate The Word and its actual followers with those who do harm to themselves and others.

Those who inflict harm are not following The Word, and if they say they are they are lying, to others and possibly themselves.

You do realize that this applies to everyone who claims to follow The Word, right?

 

[maquiscat]

What interests me, is the first amendment constitutional question this sort of thing must have presented even before now. Remember to regulate the production, access and consumption of speech, it requires a compelling state interest be shown. Prior to the age of cyber-art , the compelling interest in regulating porn was based on the victimization of actors involved, not the purient interest of the consumer. There is no clear victim to protect, in computor generated image behind child porn. Nobody is exploited here. Yet the statutes still sit on the books and they get enforced.

I am sure that this question was argued and decided via appelate caselaw before AI, but I am curious what the rationale is now.

When you talk about using the images of purely fictional individuals, such as Bart and Lisa Simpson, I have to agree with you that there is no victim, save maybe in the copyright area. Or when the character is not based on any real person or face. However, once you start taking an actual person and use their likeness to generate porn, even if the person themselves does not model for it, it is still at a minimum sexual exploitation, and still potential harmful to them, if in no other way than having false information out there about them. This would not be any different than someone taking your face and using AI to put you in an image of sexually assaulting a child. You didn't do it, but it would still harm you.

 

[Hello My Son]

What I meant is that prior to you stating as much, it was still within the realm of possibility, and that the point of what a Christian would supposedly do or not do was not sufficient to make it obvious that you were not.

My apologies to you personally. I didn't realize you hadn't seen the interaction with the other poster who I've told on more than one occasion that I'm not religious (this is at least the 3rd time they have insisted that they know more about me than.....me). I did reference this earlier in the thread to them, but it probably wouldn't have been clear to someone in your position who just saw this for the first time.

I'm not invested in you being a Christian or not one. I am making a point that your statements are not as clear cut as to what any given Christian would do. IOW, your current username (I was unaware of your prior one when making my initial statements) is not as obviously stating, "I am not a Christian," as you portrayed it to be. Nor is the statement of what a Christian would deny. I constantly deny the Jesus and God that others put forth, because they are not the kind and loving Jesus and God that I know and commune with. Basically, and ironically, you were gatekeeping Christianity from the other side of the gate. I just pointed that out. Whether you are Christian or not doesn't affect me.

I get you. But yes, that other poster is most definitely aware of my former username as we've had several interactions over the past 9 or so months, including when I first signed up under that old username. What they're doing is intentionally trolling, so again, my apologies for misinterpreting your intentions. FWIW, when someone does assume that I'm religious by my current username, I explain that I am not and that it's a joke. Most posters don't have to ask and assume it to be a joke due to the ridiculousness of it, but if they don't immediately get it, then I clarify as soon as I realize it.

 

[maquiscat]

My apologies to you personally. I didn't realize you hadn't seen the interaction with the other poster who I've told on more than one occasion that I'm not religious (this is at least the 3rd time they have insisted that they know more about me than.....me). I did reference this earlier in the thread to them, but it probably wouldn't have been clear to someone in your position who just saw this for the first time.

Not a problem, and it happens. On my part, I probably saw the earlier interactions and didn't connect them.

I get you. But yes, that other poster is most definitely aware of my former username as we've had several interactions over the past 9 or so months, including when I first signed up under that old username. What they're doing is intentionally trolling, so again, my apologies for misinterpreting your intentions. FWIW, when someone does assume that I'm religious by my current username, I explain that I am not and that it's a joke. Most posters don't have to ask and assume it to be a joke due to the ridiculousness of it, but if they don't immediately get it, then I clarify as soon as I realize it.

I get the problem from the opposite direction. Being told I am not a Christian simply because I do not believe exactly as they do. However, my point was simply that the statements in and of themselves actually did nothing to show that you were not a Christian as other Christians (mostly ones like me )have and will do them. Yes telling someone should be making it clear enough, and shame on them for not getting it. Worse is that we do have some poster who cannot shake the concept that if you disagree with them, then you must be doing it because of religious reasons. And that if you are doing it for religious reasons it has to be for Christian (and occasionally Muslim) and never could any other religion even come into play.

 

[OlNate]

You didn't put me in any difficult position at all. I've explained my position again and again. I'm sorry you can't understand what's being said. Pride takes at least two different forms. Here we're disagreeing over an understanding of what pride actually is: is it authentic or hubristic, is it externally motivated or internally motivated. Does it depend on what I've done or on who I am.

Pride is not necessarily based on accomplishments, it can also mean being pleased with who and what we are. As a Christian I'm proud of being a child of God, having been given free will to choose to follow God or reject him, and of doing my best to live a righteous life according to His will. My pride comes before any accomplishments and is not dependent on them.

I understand what you're saying, it's just that you are wrong.

Per the dictionary, pride is defined as:

a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired.
"the team was bursting with pride after recording a sensational victory"

Sorry, bud, you don't get to redefine words and then tell me I'm the one who "can't understand". I have "understood" your position this entire time. Like, all of it, from the moment you lead out with your dog whistle.

 

[Ganondagan]

I understand what you're saying, it's just that you are wrong.

Per the dictionary, pride is defined as:

a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired.
"the team was bursting with pride after recording a sensational victory"

Sorry, bud, you don't get to redefine words and then tell me I'm the one who "can't understand". I have "understood" your position this entire time. Like, all of it, from the moment you lead out with your dog whistle.

or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired.

It's obvious you can't understand. You try hard but you're failing.

 

[Hello My Son]

Not a problem, and it happens. On my part, I probably saw the earlier interactions and didn't connect them.



I get the problem from the opposite direction. Being told I am not a Christian simply because I do not believe exactly as they do. However, my point was simply that the statements in and of themselves actually did nothing to show that you were not a Christian as other Christians (mostly ones like me )have and will do them. Yes telling someone should be making it clear enough, and shame on them for not getting it. Worse is that we do have some poster who cannot shake the concept that if you disagree with them, then you must be doing it because of religious reasons. And that if you are doing it for religious reasons it has to be for Christian (and occasionally Muslim) and never could any other religion even come into play.

Yes, agreed. I take no issue with anyone being religious as long as they make an effort to be decent humans (which is a standard I have for everyone regardless of their beliefs). If it works for something and gives them purpose/fulfillment, then I'm happy for them, and if it doesn't, I'm good with that too. It just never happened to do it for me.

I don't have much tolerance for people who hate on people just for being religious, though, as if that individual is somehow responsible for all the actions of everyone in that religion throughout all of history. It's concrete-minded nonsense, and is a level to which I could never dumb myself down no matter what.

 

[Hello My Son]

I understand what you're saying, it's just that you are wrong.

Per the dictionary, pride is defined as:

a feeling of deep pleasure or satisfaction derived from one's own achievements, the achievements of those with whom one is closely associated, or from qualities or possessions that are widely admired.
"the team was bursting with pride after recording a sensational victory"

Sorry, bud, you don't get to redefine words and then tell me I'm the one who "can't understand". I have "understood" your position this entire time. Like, all of it, from the moment you lead out with your dog whistle.

So what's your position on LGBT pride, racial pride, women's pride, and celebrations of such pride?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

You try hard but you're failing.

I notice you have a tendency towards being snide and demeaning towards people who have a different view than yourself.
Is THAT a Christian value?

 

[Ganondagan]

I notice you have a tendency towards being snide and demeaning towards people who have a different view than yourself.
Is THAT a Christian value?

Stating facts is not demeaning. Do you think false praise, ignoring that people have failings, is the appropriate way to act? He doesn't understand and he is failing. What he's displaying is arrogance and an assumption of superiority.