• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Christian School Expels Girl for Wearing Rainbow Sweater on Her Birthday

Experience = opinion, not fact...although, admittedly, substantiated opinion. :)

As some of us on this thread have gone over for days, without knowing the background of Kayla's reported violations of the previous two years, it's jumping to a conclusion to claim the school "overreacted" by expelling her much less claim they are haters. Disagreement is not hate. Following policy or beliefs is not hate. If a student kept carrying weapons in violation of policy, they too would have been expelled. Does that make the school knife or gun haters? No. It could, but I doubt it.

Given her reported previous behavior, including having smoking materials at school, and the odds of being straight vs. gay, I'm more inclined to believe she's a rebellious teenager than a lesbian. It's possible, but I don't have enough information to make that declaration either way.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/brea...w-sweater-her-birthday-82.html#post1071197869
 
I would wonder then, why did they not expel her then, and wait for this? It doesn't add up, logically.
I’m wondering why the parents chose to send their daughter to this school in the first place. Did they not know that there would be a a conflict? Or was that the point - to create controversy in order to draw attention to the viewpoint held by the school and condemn it.

If this has already been addressed please point to those posts.
 
I’m wondering why the parents chose to send their daughter to this school in the first place. Did they not know that there would be a a conflict? Or was that the point - to create controversy in order to draw attention to the viewpoint held by the school and condemn it.

If this has already been addressed please point to those posts.

If that was the point, why did they wait until now? Really, your position is going to be that they're raging leftists who enrolled their daughter into this school so they could bring it down?

The school has a good record of students getting into good colleges. That is probably why they sent her there, so she could be better prepared for a college education.
 
If that was the point, why did they wait until now? Really, your position is going to be that they're raging leftists who enrolled their daughter into this school so they could bring it down?

The school has a good record of students getting into good colleges. That is probably why they sent her there, so she could be better prepared for a college education.
I don’t know. I don’t think it would be good tactically to make it obvious that that was their agenda very soon after enrolling her. I’m speculating. (Just as you are with the second sentence unless you have a statement from the parents supporting it) Is that allowed?
 
I’m wondering why the parents chose to send their daughter to this school in the first place. Did they not know that there would be a a conflict? Or was that the point - to create controversy in order to draw attention to the viewpoint held by the school and condemn it.

If this has already been addressed please point to those posts.

Could be the parents were fed up with Kayla's shenanigans and the strict school was the last resort to 'tame' her?
 
Could be the parents were fed up with Kayla's shenanigans and the strict school was the last resort to 'tame' her?
I thought I read where someone made this suggestion. Schools such as this one has a very low tolerance for “shenanigans” and a quick solution - expulsion. They have no incentive to put up with it.
 
I thought I read where someone made this suggestion. Schools such as this one has a very low tolerance for “shenanigans” and a quick solution - expulsion. They have no incentive to put up with it.

How long did the school put up with Kayla's shenanigans?
 
Could be the parents were fed up with Kayla's shenanigans and the strict school was the last resort to 'tame' her?

Her shenanigans? Possibly being lesbian and enjoying a couple of cigarettes are shenanigans?
 
Her shenanigans? Possibly being lesbian and enjoying a couple of cigarettes are shenanigans?

Shenanigans according to the school, yeah.

You seem to need a morality to defend every rule. Should all democrats put up with the shenanigans of having to hate Trump, for example?:roll:
 
How long did the school put up with Kayla's shenanigans?

IDK. I haven’t read the particulars of the case. Although nota’s post caught my eye and sparked renewed interest. Perhaps she knows more.
 
According to the link, the school put up with Kayla's conduct violations (her misconduct breaking every conduct code of the school) for about 2 years.Rainbow Cake Girl: The True Story | The American Conservative
Yeah, I just finished reading through the article. It does seem to indicate that the school was trying to resolve the issue without much success. It’s a private school and has the right to run it as they see fit. Doing so will open the door to criticism.
 
Christian School Expels Girl for Wearing Rainbow Sweater on Her Birthday | Hemant Mehta | Friendly Atheist | Patheos

Whitefield Academy, a private Christian school, expelled 15-year-old freshman*Kayla Kenney*for having the*audacity*to celebrate her birthday with a multi-colored cake while wearing a rainbow sweater.

Because*everyone*knows what that really means.

We don't even know that she's gay. But hey, rainbows, OMG! Guess the Noah story doesn't mean anything to them.

Since I'm from Kentucky, I've read about this story. This is a private pay CHRISTIAN school. They have religious values and the students and parents are expected to abide by them. This particular girl has been disciplined several times for not following Christian values. This is not about the cake. This is about the cake being the last straw after the school had already had enough from this girl. This is a free country and being a free country the non public funded school can set their values and expect the students and their families to live by these values and, in turn, the students and families have the right to take their children out of a school they don't believe in or never put them there in the first place. If this student and her family don't share the same Christian values as the school stands for then they should have never been there in the first place and shouldn't be upset if asked to leave.
 
So you are claiming that the fact Romans executed prisoners on a cross is pure coincidence. Awesome. Thank you for your input.

There is no way that a person who is being serious could ask, "Pagan roots?" after being told that the Christian cross has pagan roots, be provided an article that says that the cross that was later adopted by Christians was initially used among pagans, and then say that I said that the fact Romans executed people on crosses is purely coincidental. That train of thought doesn't follow any logical course whatsoever.
 
Since I'm from Kentucky, I've read about this story. This is a private pay CHRISTIAN school. They have religious values and the students and parents are expected to abide by them. This particular girl has been disciplined several times for not following Christian values. This is not about the cake. This is about the cake being the last straw after the school had already had enough from this girl. This is a free country and being a free country the non public funded school can set their values and expect the students and their families to live by these values and, in turn, the students and families have the right to take their children out of a school they don't believe in or never put them there in the first place. If this student and her family don't share the same Christian values as the school stands for then they should have never been there in the first place and shouldn't be upset if asked to leave.

Yeah, they have the right to do it. I haven't seen anybody say that they don't.

It's just a very petty "last straw." There were reasons to expel her before, and they didn't. The cake and sweater? OMG, that's the worst sin ever? Come on....
 
Honestly, I don't trust a RW blog to tell the "true story." I question anybody who does.

Oh, of course, you do, and that's a great excuse not to read the article. Of course, if you don't, you miss out on seeing the actual photos posted by Kayla Kenney on her Instagram, but that's okay too because you need not trouble yourself with any additional facts. :roll: :3oops: :lol:

From the article:

Again, it is perfectly fair to write a story about how a private Christian school dismisses a student because of her active lesbianism. But those aren’t the stories that have been written. What we have seen so far is a narrative in which an innocent child has been unjustly identified by school authorities as gay because of the coincidence of her rainbow birthday cake. In fact, that kid has been promoting herself and her lesbianism for some time on Instagram, despite being warned by the school that doing so was incompatible with her status as a student in that school.

Kimberly Alford needs to come clean about what’s really happening here. Neither her nor her daughter are innocents in all this. The context of Kayla’s expulsion — her two years of seriously bad behavior, plus her sexual acting-out on Instagram — meaningfully changes the story. Alford should give the school permission to release its records on her daughter’s behavioral problems. People would likely see that this school has been struggling with this kid for a long time, and had finally just had enough — especially when the school’s administration realized that Kayla’s own mother was actively trying to undermine the school, in violation of the agreement both she and Kayla signed. Rainbow Cake Girl: The True Story | The American Conservative
 
This is a private pay CHRISTIAN school. They have religious values and the students and parents are expected to abide by them.
This is a free country and being a free country the non public funded school can set their values and expect the students and their families to live by these values and, in turn, the students and families have the right to take their children out of a school they don't believe in or never put them there in the first place. If this student and her family don't share the same Christian values as the school stands for then they should have never been there in the first place and shouldn't be upset if asked to leave.

I agree that if families sign codes of conduct they should abide by them. BUT your assertion that religious schools are "non public funded" is false. We are all subsidizing religious institutions and schools in the form of school vouchers, tax exemptions, and tax credits. Many states also subsidize these schools with state taxpayer money.

This being a free country, those of us who do not wish to fund schools which are private, religious, or otherwise not public, should not be forced to. Do you also believe in funding Mormon or Muslim schools? Or is it only Christian schools.
 
Yes. Post #815.

Thanks!

My persistence in Googling has paid off. Most articles are from 3-4 days ago, so when I saw a story that had been published only 18 hours ago, I clicked. Disclaimer: Horror of horrors, this site is conservative, so everyone who is an attack-the-messenger type, go ahead and jerk your knee now. And click anyway because there are pictures from Kayla Kenney's Instagram account.

When Alford says her daughter "is no angel," and confirms that she has had "disciplinary issues," she's understating matters. My understanding is that Kayla Kenney had a long, specific list of repeated infractions--bullying, disrespecting teachers, vaping in school (as Alford acknowledges), and so forth. Part of what she has allegedly done is promoting LGBT consciousness in the school, including aggression on that front. I'm trying to be delicate here, but I can tell you that she has transgressed against other students on this front, to promote bisexuality. For example, she allegedly drew rainbows and wrote slogans like "bi pride" on other kids' papers, and gave at least two different girls the impression that she was sexually harassing them. Rainbow Cake Girl: The True Story | The American Conservative

Thanks. Kayla should be much happier in public school. Since her mother supports her on this, I'm presuming that the private school was all Daddy's idea. :)
 
There is no way that a person who is being serious could ask, "Pagan roots?" after being told that the Christian cross has pagan roots, be provided an article that says that the cross that was later adopted by Christians was initially used among pagans, and then say that I said that the fact Romans executed people on crosses is purely coincidental. That train of thought doesn't follow any logical course whatsoever.

Then why keep posting about it? The Romans didn't using a cross for crucifixion because of "pagan roots", they used it because of the shape of the human body...which is probably why the Pagans also used it. Anyone who claims Christians use the Cross because they stole it from the Pagans like the Christmas tree and the Easter Bunny is avoiding the obvious and just pushing a false agenda if not outright lying. Of course, they could just be stupid too. I don't know.
 
The people who most discriminate against Christians are other Christians who don't like what they have to say.
 
Back
Top Bottom