China shows why we needed to shut it all down for a month!

[justabubba]

Those who kill unborn babies for financial reasons or are profiting from the murders are the lowest form of human barbarian scum on earth.

take a look at yourself

 

[woodsman]

Can you source the bold?

Any journalist or legitimate source out of Wuhan got shut down. They are now part of the cremation pile that is available for view via google maps as a significant heat source.

 

[Lursa]

Any journalist or legitimate source out of Wuhan got shut down. They are now part of the cremation pile that is available for view via google maps as a significant heat source.

OK, so it's something you speculated then.

That's not a foundation for a credible opinion or argument, on it's own IMO.

 

[Deuce]

Those who kill unborn babies for financial reasons or are profiting from the murders are the lowest form of human barbarian scum on earth.

Isn't that what conservatives are clamoring for when they demand we open back up for business right away? Dead children, to improve stock market indexes.

 

[marke]

Not true at all. By new guidelines, every state that I've heard of has stopped evictions, is providing assistance for rent and mortgages, enabling faster unemployment $$, setting up small business loads, stopping student loan payments for 6 months (interest free), and making sure that everyone can get groceries.

So yes...those people would be prioritizing their own needs, their own convenience, over lives.

It it wrong for us to judge if those people are capable of deciding what they can and cannot survive on? Do we know each family's circumstances...it's ok for us to decide for them? Yes or no?

How many businesses will be hurt because people are not making their car payments? What about their furniture payments? Is the government going to pay for their clothing needs? Who cares if nobody can buy toys or playground equipment? What about tires for their cars or tuneups for their old knocking engines? What if food companies cannot sell perishable foods to restaurants and those foods rot in the warehouse? What about thousands of other products which are not moving because of problems arising from the shutdown?

 

[marke]

We KNOW that more elderly and vulnerable will die, in higher numbers, if we open up the economy. You have no idea if any women will get abortions at all...and those numbers go down every year.

If making a living, hanging onto a secure place to live, putting food on the table are conveniences, then those eager to get out and spread disease on their own behalf are no different than the women you revile.

The message the rich and fearful want to pass onto the poor and struggling: 'To hell with your temporal needs if you are not willing to sacrifice your income for several months in order to reduce the risk of grandma catching the flu and dying.'

 

[iguanaman]

Trump tried to ban cruise lines, air flights and other things from china and other parts of the world infected.
people were let in anyway.

maybe next time they will listen instead of screaming about it.

Trump's "ban" let in untold 1000's of infected Americans that spread the virus to all 50 States. He was a fool.

 

[iguanaman]

The message the rich and fearful want to pass onto the poor and struggling: 'To hell with your temporal needs if you are not willing to sacrifice your income for several months in order to reduce the risk of grandma catching the flu and dying.'

The hospitals are being overwhelmed by scores of critically ill young people needing treatment. Perhaps we should turn them away because they are not old enough to get sick? Over half of hospital admissions are under 65 and 20% are 20 to 44. We could take the strain off the hospitals by sending them all home to die.

 

[Lursa]

How many businesses will be hurt because people are not making their car payments? What about their furniture payments? Is the government going to pay for their clothing needs? Who cares if nobody can buy toys or playground equipment? What about tires for their cars or tuneups for their old knocking engines? What if food companies cannot sell perishable foods to restaurants and those foods rot in the warehouse? What about thousands of other products which are not moving because of problems arising from the shutdown?

How many women and their families will be hurt if they cannot support a/another child? Why do you place businesses and $$$ ahead of women's lives? They contribute to society too...they work for employers/businesses, they support businesses, they have obligations and commitments to church, community, society...all of which make a difference.

Why are women's lives of less value than businesses?

You are dehumanizing women like you claim pro-choice people dehumanize the unborn...by reducing this to numbers and $.

That's hypocritical and immoral.

 

[Lursa]

The message the rich and fearful want to pass onto the poor and struggling: 'To hell with your temporal needs if you are not willing to sacrifice your income for several months in order to reduce the risk of grandma catching the flu and dying.'

And you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker :doh

 

[marke]

The hospitals are being overwhelmed by scores of critically ill young people needing treatment. Perhaps we should turn them away because they are not old enough to get sick? Over half of hospital admissions are under 65 and 20% are 20 to 44. We could take the strain off the hospitals by sending them all home to die.

Hospitals were already filled with sick people before the coronavirus became a problem, and now many of those sick people will become exposed to the coronavirus while in the hospital and will die due to an already weakened immune system.

 

[marke]

How many women and their families will be hurt if they cannot support a/another child? Why do you place businesses and $$$ ahead of women's lives? They contribute to society too...they work for employers/businesses, they support businesses, they have obligations and commitments to church, community, society...all of which make a difference.

Why are women's lives of less value than businesses?

You are dehumanizing women like you claim pro-choice people dehumanize the unborn...by reducing this to numbers and $.

That's hypocritical and immoral.

Civilized people do not kill babies for fear they will suffer from poverty. Savage uncivilized barbarians do wicked things like that.

 

[independentusa]

Don't you just love it when all the amateur wannabe experts start coming out of the woodwork to criticize famous people for lacking the foresight in a developing emergency that the egoist pundits want people to believe they would not have lacked themselves?

Maybe if trump has not shut down the peole Bush and Obama put in place to plan for this we might not be in so much trouble now don't you think?

 

[independentusa]

Civilized people do not kill babies for fear they will suffer from poverty. Savage uncivilized barbarians do wicked things like that.

What about women who have been raped? Should they be required to carry the baby of their rapist to term and then have to share parenting wit him as has been required in some of your lovely Red States?

 

[Lursa]

Civilized people do not kill babies for fear they will suffer from poverty. Savage uncivilized barbarians do wicked things like that.

Civilized people dont kill elderly/vulnerable people for fear that businesses will lose $$ or go under.

LOL, every time I paraphrase you, it shows how hypocritical your arguments against abortion are.

 

[Lursa]

Hospitals were already filled with sick people before the coronavirus became a problem, and now many of those sick people will become exposed to the coronavirus while in the hospital and will die due to an already weakened immune system.

Yes...and that is why 'flattening the curve' by closing businesses, etc is so important...to help preserve medical resources and treatment for THOSE people too.

My lord, dont you far righties get this at all? Oh sorry..."science." :roll:

 

[Hamish Howl]

For democrats what is $4 trillion when there are trillions more to spend in efforts to save the economy from total collapse over health fears?

Let's not hear about any more of your religious principles, then.

 

[Hamish Howl]

Civilized people do not kill babies for fear they will suffer from poverty. Savage uncivilized barbarians do wicked things like that.

You don't have a religious objection, you've already proven that. This is just about control of women.

 

[marke]

Maybe if trump has not shut down the peole Bush and Obama put in place to plan for this we might not be in so much trouble now don't you think?

Two government employees got other jobs and that is why democrats claim America is suffering from the China flu because of Trump?

 

[charliebrown]

The USA has less than a quarter of the population of China and yet we have already surpassed them in the number of Covid 19 cases. Why, because they took the strong position from the start of shutting down for 30 days and now the number of new cases and deaths in China is minimal. Trump and many states have refused to do so and now both cases and deaths continue to climb. People say we should not force people to shut dwon that it is wrong, the peope must be free to do as they want in this country. I have always heard that in a democracy that one man's freedom ends at his neighbors door. In this situation, people should ban together to shut the whole country down for thirty days to get past the worst of this. If we do not we will continue the spiral of new cases and deaths until the virus stops on its own which may not happen for months if ever.

Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day.
An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.
More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.
Road traffic crashes rank as the 9th leading cause of death and account for 2.2% of all deaths globally.

And we are worried about Corona Virus. Seriously, we should be more worried about getting back on the road to go back to work.

 

[marke]

What about women who have been raped? Should they be required to carry the baby of their rapist to term and then have to share parenting wit him as has been required in some of your lovely Red States?

Rich government subsidized abortionist doctor to his next helpless victim: 'Sorry kid but your mother was raped so you must be executed for the crime.'

 

[marke]

Yes...and that is why 'flattening the curve' by closing businesses, etc is so important...to help preserve medical resources and treatment for THOSE people too.

My lord, dont you far righties get this at all? Oh sorry..."science." :roll:

At least I don't have to stop working, because my company is currently helping build more hospital beds. I still feel sorry for the poor saps who must sacrifice their livelihoods for however long it will take to calm people down from their fears over infections.

 

[marke]

You don't have a religious objection, you've already proven that. This is just about control of women.

About all I can do is warn people that God frowns on the murder of innocent babies. They must deal with God themselves. I cannot do it for them.

 

[Hamish Howl]

About all I can do is warn people that God frowns on the murder of innocent babies. They must deal with God themselves. I cannot do it for them.

You don't believe in God. You're with mammon. You've made that quite clear.

 

[marke]

Nearly 1.25 million people die in road crashes each year, on average 3,287 deaths a day.
An additional 20-50 million are injured or disabled.
More than half of all road traffic deaths occur among young adults ages 15-44.
Road traffic crashes rank as the 9th leading cause of death and account for 2.2% of all deaths globally.

And we are worried about Corona Virus. Seriously, we should be more worried about getting back on the road to go back to work.

We should ban alcohol. That would cut way down on traffic deaths.