Childlike Sex Dolls

[maquiscat]

I don't know. It seems like proper therapy/mental healthcare would be the way to go on this. But maybe it can’t be resolved in that manner? I’m not sure. But something like this doesn’t really address the underlying problem. On the other hand, if this sort of outlet allows the individual “relief” and saves an actual child from coming to harm, it could be a plus in that regard.

I love how the whole "if even one child can be saved it is worth it" concept goes out the window when it is something that personally repulsed them.

 

[maquiscat]

There is another angle here which has thus far been ignored. What drives this "attraction" to children? Is it a desire for kids simply because they are turned on by them or is it more sinister--a desire to control and harm defenseless victims? I believe child molesters fall into one of those two groups: some enjoy the hurt and control, others just want to have sex with kids.

And that is what makes the difference between an actual pedophile and a simple child abuser. The ones doing it for the power and control are not necessarily sexually attracted to the children. It's the same principle where a gay person can sexually assault someone of the opposite gender or a straight person assault one of the same gender. It is not a sexual attraction, but a display of power and dominance.

 

[Hawkeye10]

And that is what makes the difference between an actual pedophile and a simple child abuser. The ones doing it for the power and control are not necessarily sexually attracted to the children. It's the same principle where a gay person can sexually assault someone of the opposite gender or a straight person assault one of the same gender. It is not a sexual attraction, but a display of power and dominance.

And what percentage is that? I keep reading about guys who are torn up over being attracted to "to young", they would rather not but they cant help themselves, almost exactly like it used to be for homosexuals.

Ya, I think we need some evidence for this charge....

 

[maquiscat]

I'd feel better about if they were getting their rocks off with said doll while also enrolled in an intensive therapeutic program. I'm not comfortable with them doing it unsupervised. A doll with sensors and a microprocessor providing a therapist some feedback would be ideal.

The proble is the attitudes of people like Herin and others actually prevent those who would like to get help from seeking it. Why look for help when others are going to vilify and attack you for it, even when you have harmed none andare trying to prevent harming anyone?

 

[Hawkeye10]

The proble is the attitudes of people like Herin and others actually prevent those who would like to get help from seeking it. Why look for help when others are going to vilify and attack you for it, even when you have harmed none andare trying to prevent harming anyone?

Researchers think that between 3 and 5% of men are attracted to under aged, which is a big number in my mind. In light of this I think that the German Dunkelfeld programme is a good move. I could see child sex dolls becoming part of such a pedophilia prevention effort.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/re...g/news-story/0de393948df51aace92e6add639b13ef

 

[Henrin]

The proble is the attitudes of people like Herin and others actually prevent those who would like to get help from seeking it. Why look for help when others are going to vilify and attack you for it, even when you have harmed none andare trying to prevent harming anyone?

How do I prevent someone from getting help? All I said is that someone that is inclined to raping someone and doesn't even stop when lack of consent is obvious as all hell isn't likely to not rape because of a doll. The dude that rapes someone and then does it again over and over and over again for years on end is vermin and needs a bullet to the head. Oh and yes, plenty of these pedos do just that. They find a victim or victims and then rape them for a ****ing decade. **** them with a bullet.

 

[Grand Mal]

I never heard of this until today...facebook had a thread on it for some reason. And, no. The responses were far from positive.

Personally, I guess...I'd rather a perv molest a doll than a real five year old. But, sheesh. Do we have to cater to them at all?

I think the guy producing the dolls is a pedophile, so it's like them catering to each other.
I'm all for anything that'll prevent them molesting children, but I'd rather not know about this...

 

[calamity]

So, you're saying it should be legal for teachers to **** students?

It is in college. Why should it not be in high school, especially when students are 16 or older?

 

[calamity]

I love how the whole "if even one child can be saved it is worth it" concept goes out the window when it is something that personally repulsed them.

Maybe it endangers a hundred more for every child saved. You don't know. Do you?

 

[calamity]

And that is what makes the difference between an actual pedophile and a simple child abuser. The ones doing it for the power and control are not necessarily sexually attracted to the children. It's the same principle where a gay person can sexually assault someone of the opposite gender or a straight person assault one of the same gender. It is not a sexual attraction, but a display of power and dominance.

Sure. And, one maybe can be treated, the person maybe shown ways to redirect the energy. The other is just an evil person who is probably not redeemable.

 

[calamity]

The proble is the attitudes of people like Herin and others actually prevent those who would like to get help from seeking it. Why look for help when others are going to vilify and attack you for it, even when you have harmed none andare trying to prevent harming anyone?

Which is why psychological treatment and therapy sessions remain protected by non-disclosure laws, including testimony in court: patient-doctor privilege.

 

[calamity]

I think the guy producing the dolls is a pedophile, so it's like them catering to each other.
I'm all for anything that'll prevent them molesting children, but I'd rather not know about this...

The fact that he himself is a pedophile is a concern. I'd rather see this proffered by therapists, not perverts.

 

[calamity]

Researchers think that between 3 and 5% of men are attracted to under aged, which is a big number in my mind. In light of this I think that the German Dunkelfeld programme is a good move. I could see child sex dolls becoming part of such a pedophilia prevention effort.

Would a ‘Dunkelfeld Project’ help reduce child sex abuse in Australia?

Makes me wonder how much of that 5% is attracted to teenagers and adolescents versus pre-pubs. Someone hot for 17 and 16 year old teens is much less troubling than someone who has the urge to molest a 9 year-old.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Makes me wonder how much of that 5% is attracted to teenagers and adolescents versus pre-pubs. Someone hot for 17 and 16 year old teens is much less troubling than someone who has the urge to molest a 9 year-old.

I wonder that too, I hope that when scientists give us these kinds of numbers that they are talking about girls who are obviously not of age, because that is what matters. What I have found however over the years is that honesty and common sense are often not employed, and often even the best experts dont know what the truth is because on touchy subjects such as this nobody wants to fund the science.

The logic behind the past push for registries rested on what seem like common sense assumptions. Among the most prominent were, first, sex offenders were believed to be at a high risk for reoffending—once a sex offender, always a sex offender. Second, it was thought that sex offenses against children were commonly committed by strangers. Taken together, the point was that if the police had a list, and the public could access it, children would be safer.

The problem, however, is that a mass of empirical research conducted since the passage of Jacob’s Law has cast increasing doubt on all of those premises.

Sex offender registry laws: Have our policies gone too far?

We now have 3/4 million people on sexual offender registries....from laws that have been passed in the last 20 years....would it shock you if you were to learn that there was never any science to support them? How bout if I told you that 20 years in we finally know for sure now that they are a bad idea yet almost no one is talking about the problem? THe inescapable conclusion is that sadism is at work here.

http://scholarworks.sjsu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1014&context=themis

 

[truthatallcost]

I'm sure there are studies out there that sexual release for pedophiles outside of molesting children limits the amount of times they offend in real life. I'm sure most people would rather ignore it and wish we didn't have to deal with people like that. But they do exist.

Yep, far too many of them exist. Capital punishment for repeat pedophiles gets my vote. First conviction should be 10 years in prison, with no early release. Second offense they get to ride the lightning.

 

[ALiberalModerate]

Yes, you read that right.


Thoughts?

Maybe if they could somehow use the doll to convince the pedophile to go out and step in front of bus after they get off with the doll.

 

[calamity]

Maybe if they could somehow use the doll to convince the pedophile to go out and step in front of bus after they get off with the doll.

A Manchurian Doll...lol

 

[calamity]

Yep, far too many of them exist. Capital punishment for repeat pedophiles gets my vote. First conviction should be 10 years in prison, with no early release. Second offense they get to ride the lightning.

IMO, the doll reinforces neural connections that are best left untrained. It's bound to cause the non-offender to escalate. That is the main reason I suggest therapy should be a part of using this doll.

A simple research study comparing doll guys with a control group will determine if the doll suppresses the urge to offend or not. But, I doubt it's a magic bullet. If anything, I suspect it has the opposite effect.

 

[blackjack50]

What's the difference between making dolls like this and making pedophilic porn?

Sounds like pretty much the same thing to me.

A doll can't be a victim. It isn't alive. So doing something to it isn't illegal. They have child porn art (rather than photos with actual victims) too. It is disturbing. Idk if it SHOULD be illegal based on our legal structure, but I know that it is wrong morally and ethically. This topic is a mind bender for sure.


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[Henrin]

It is in college. Why should it not be in high school, especially when students are 16 or older?

I really don't get why the age of consent is not sixteen all over the country. From everything to crime to sex sixteen makes a whole lot more sense than eighteen, imho.

 

[blackjack50]

It is in college. Why should it not be in high school, especially when students are 16 or older?

Because a 16 year old is a minor, and is not mentally capable of making intelligent decisions. There is a huge mental difference between 16 and 18.


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[calamity]

I really don't get why the age of consent is not sixteen all over the country. From everything to crime to sex sixteen makes a whole lot more sense than eighteen, imho.

16 would make the most sense. Yes.

 

[blackjack50]

I really don't get why the age of consent is not sixteen all over the country. From everything to crime to sex sixteen makes a whole lot more sense than eighteen, imho.

Mental development. 16 year olds are not as mentally developed as an 18 year old.


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[truthatallcost]

IMO, the doll reinforces neural connections that are best left untrained. It's bound to cause the non-offender to escalate. That is the main reason I suggest therapy should be a part of using this doll.

A simple research study comparing doll guys with a control group will determine if the doll suppresses the urge to offend or not. But, I doubt it's a magic bullet. If anything, I suspect it has the opposite effect.

The idea that this doll has the potential to eliminate predatory behavior by sickos is something I'm not buying.

It would be like giving toy needles to heroin addicts and telling them to pretend to shoot up. It's only going to awaken the urge for the real thing.

 

[Henrin]

The idea that this doll has the potential to eliminate predatory behavior by sickos is something I'm not buying.

It would be like giving toy needles to heroin addicts and telling them to pretend to shoot up. It's only going to awaken the urge for the real thing.

It's like giving teen girls dildos with the idea that it will prevent them from having sex.

If masturbation toys don't prevent sex then why in the **** would dolls prevent rape?