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Childlike Sex Dolls

Sim child porn is apparently legal in Japan. Real child porn hurts kids, obviously. It's all disgusting. But, apparently there are legal loopholes with sims.

It's like regular adult porn but with child-like actresses. Those are apparently legal, even though they are clearly simulating child sex.

We live in a strange world, with lots of strange people inhabiting it.

It is much in the eyes of the beholder. Personally it is as unattractive as gay sex. Others see it differently.
 
lol, I think I heard similar arguments against homosexuality at some point.
Which of course were correct arguments, homosexuality being a psychological deviation of course.
 
WHO cares about people's fantasies, if that is what they stay?
Those who desire a virtuous society care about the deviance that its individuals may be harboring.
 
Oh...dark ages-think. I see.
The dark ages was of course proceeded by sexual libertinism of Rome, and was quite an immoral and atheistic time period full of perversity and utilitarian feudalism, somewhat redeemed by the Renaissance.
 
As does every civilized society, and members thereof.

Yeah man, you're so right. Especially places like Saudi Arabia, where you can be executed for being a homosexual.

So civilized.
 
lol, I think I heard similar arguments against homosexuality at some point.

That is probably because many people have similar reflexes to both.
 
Yeah man, you're so right. Especially places like Saudi Arabia, where you can be executed for being a homosexual.

So civilized.

Oh it's very civil is you're an obedient theist of the right religion, male, and in the correct social class. Very civil.
 
Yeah man, you're so right. Especially places like Saudi Arabia, where you can be executed for being a homosexual.

So civilized.
Far more civilized in that regard than societies which openly promote said perversity, if the Marquis de Sade is any indication.
 
Those who desire a virtuous society care about the deviance that its individuals may be harboring.

What we need is a Thought Police Force!
 
What we need is a Thought Police Force!
No, people can keep whatever twisted fantasizes they want in the privacy of their own mind; when they come out and start demanding acceptance from normal people for being a pervert, they're fair game to target.
 
No I'm presenting objective ones, as deviance is an objective context.

You're being silly, as explained it wasn't used in a statistical context, but in an objective one.

And as explained to you, we aren't talking about superfluous statistical norms, simply objective ones.

Mathematically speaking, if 9 out of 10 lines were crooked (abnormal/deviant), and 1 out of 10 were straight (normal), then of course it's the statistical majority which is deviant, and should be made to conform to the statistical minority which is normal, not vice versa.

When you use the words "abnormal" and "deviant" with the implications of right or wrong, then you are firmly into subjective opinion territory. Under what context is straight normal, for your example? Under the conditions you gave it is very abnormal. Outside of statistics, abnormal can only be a subjective value.
 
I think the difference might be that children perform in the making of the porn and we would rather they starve than do that. Which, of course, some have.

Only works for live pedophilic porn. Who is hurt when Bart Simpson is banging Laura Croft? Or Lisa Simpson is reverse cowgirl on Batman?
 
Those who desire a virtuous society care about the deviance that its individuals may be harboring.

Virtuous is a subjective opinion value as well.
 
Only works for live pedophilic porn. Who is hurt when Bart Simpson is banging Laura Croft? Or Lisa Simpson is reverse cowgirl on Batman?

Bad thoughts get made so somebody one day could get hurt.....maybe...... that's the augment.
 
Bad thoughts get made so somebody one day could get hurt.....maybe...... that's the augment.

Such could be said with so many things. Cartoons, video games, Game of Thrones...the list could be endless.
 
So a piece of plastic is now a victim?

The Republicans and Jesus lovers can never find enough laws to put people in jail, can they?
 
Sex dolls don't cry.

They don't scream
They don't try to fight back
They don't wiggle or move in any sort of way.
They don't cry
They don't feel

For people that rape children to get off I wonder how much a doll would do the trick.
 
So a piece of plastic is now a victim?

The Republicans and Jesus lovers can never find enough laws to put people in jail, can they?

There is nothing ok about adults being sexually attracted to children. Anyone who has sexual fantasies about children should be subjected to scorn and derision, not accommodation. We need to make it so that people are afraid to even entertain those thoughts. Providing child like dolls to practice on legitimizes perverse desires to a degree. Some appetites should not ever be fed.
 
Only works for live pedophilic porn. Who is hurt when Bart Simpson is banging Laura Croft? Or Lisa Simpson is reverse cowgirl on Batman?

Are cartoons illegal ? I had never been very interested in that facet of pedophile porn and had mostly seen justifications of restricting the citizens behavior by forbidding children in pornography as protection of the children involved. So you say it goes beyond this and is more driven by prudishness?
 
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