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Are Hispanics Going Trump/Republican ?

TheParser said:
Hi!

I am terrified of that word "irony," for it is used incorrectly by so many people, including me. So I shall not answer your question directly.

I am also reluctant to give my opinion on ethnic matters, for we members are bound by strict posting rules.

I think/hope that I am allowed to say this:

There are many sincere people who feel that it does not make any difference whatsoever whether the majority ethnicity is Caucasian or Hispanic.



Have a nice weekend!
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"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

- Patrick Henry
 
Luther said:
"We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it."

- Patrick Henry
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Patrick Henry was a patriot and a courageous man.

I am, however, a nobody and a coward.

Like most people, I go along in order to get along.
 
Luther said:
With all the Puerto Rican's settling there? I'm not so sure about that.

Trump had a little Home field advantage in Florida


Look how close the Senate and Governors race was in 2018. The Repub's only won by the skin of their teeth.
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Puerto Ricans fleeing an incompetent and corrupt Democrat controlled Island seeing first hand the difference may not vote as you assume. Ask the Haitians in Florida what they think of Hillary.

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Here's an article with some thoughts on the topic. I haven't kept track of Hispanic voting trends, but I have heard and seen that many dislike Trump because of his words and actions regarding immigrants and the shameful way he handled Puerto Rico after the disaster. His past and ongoing disrespect and lack of empathy for the citizens there is disgraceful, pathetic and un-American. Some older Hispanics may still always vote republican just because they vote for religious reasons.

My fourth and final explanation is not really an explanation at all, but a suggestion that the entire premise of this piece might be wrong. What if Latinos are deserting the GOP because of Trump, but it’s happening at a gradual enough pace that is not currently being captured by most polls.

The polling firm Latino Decisions estimates that Trump won 18 percent of Latino voters in 2016, a dip from the 23 percent who the firm estimated backed Mitt Romney in 2012. Latino Decisions specializes in polling Latino-Americans, and the company argues that exit polls from other firms overstate the number of Latinos who back GOP candidates in part because those firms don’t interview enough Latino voters who primarily speak Spanish. (The exit polls from the national networks suggest Romney got about 27 percent of the Latino vote in 2012 and that Trump got about the same percentage.)

In House races across the country last month, Latino Decisions says Republicans won 24 percent of the Latino vote. (The network exit polls estimated 29 percent.) This was a slight uptick from 2016, but Trump was not on the ballot, so it’s possible Latino voters viewed other Republican candidates differently than they view the president. But if the GOP Latino vote did drop by 5 percent in 2016 because of Trump, it’s plausible that his policies and rhetoric as president could result in a further decline the next time he’s on the ballot. So I think it’s possible (but not necessarily likely) that Trump gets something like 15 percent of the Latino vote in 2020. And if that happened, that would mark a significant decline from 2012, the pre-Trump era for the GOP.

“The Republican Party since the 1960s has alienated African-Americans to such a large degree. They haven’t done it to the same degree with Latinos — yet. But what you are seeing now is an alienation of Latinos by Republicans that is unprecedented,” said Indiana University political science professor Bernard Fraga, who specializes in studying the voting behavior of racial minorities.

To conclude, let me again emphasize that Latino voters overall are heavily Democratic and don’t like Trump. News articles that portray Democrats as having a “Latino problem” are, in my opinion, a bit off. It’s hard to say a party has a problem with a voting bloc that it wins by more than 35 percentage points nationally. The Democrats’ strength with Latino voters was a major factor in the party’s ability to flip GOP-controlled Senate seats in both Arizona and Nevada, two states with large blocs of Latino voters.

But it’s also true that Republicans continue to win a meaningful share of the Latino vote. And that has major implications. Florida remains a hugely important swing state in presidential elections, and now Democrats are talking about trying to win Arizona and maybe even Texas next year. Democrats could carry those states by winning more white voters, particularly those in the suburbs, but Democrats could also motivate Latinos who have not previously voted to cast ballots in those states. Or they could try to win over Latinos who have traditionally voted for Republicans.

For Republicans, this bloc of the electorate is just as critical. The path for Trump to win re-election probably includes him winning Arizona, Florida and Texas — and that would be easier if his Latino support doesn’t, say, bottom out to single digits in those states. But I don’t expect Trump to do much in the next two years to woo Latino voters. So the big question is whether Trump will have alienated Latino voters so much by 2020 that even those who have long backed GOP candidates decide that they can’t keep voting Republican.
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Why Latino Voters Haven’t Completely Abandoned The GOP | FiveThirtyEight
 
RAMOSS said:
I am waiting for someone to say 'Those seasonal workers took away my job picking crops'
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Finish the story

Not when you have a welfare system right?(wink)
 
Moderate Right said:
Found this for you. Thought you mind find it interesting.

Voter Registration - By Party Affiliation - Division of Elections - Florida Department of State
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Cool thanks




Year Republican Party of Florida Florida Democratic Party Minor Parties No Party Affiliation Total
2019 4,716,019 4,955,183 130,036 3,604,396 13,405,634
2018 4,718,720 4,975,895 113,489 3,588,518 13,396,622
2017 4,544,708 4,807,950 65,526 3,449,005 12,867,189


But who still has the advantage? The dems by about 234,000

Both parties have lost a bit
 
Eriech said:
Puerto Ricans fleeing an incompetent and corrupt Democrat controlled Island seeing first hand the difference may not vote as you assume. Ask the Haitians in Florida what they think of Hillary.

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Ask the Haitians in Florida what they think of Hillary.
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Trump only won 20% of the Haitian vote(LOL)
 
Luther said:
Finish the story

Not when you have a welfare system right?(wink)
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You do know that to get on welfare you have to be legally in the country, don't you?
 
RAMOSS said:
You do know that to get on welfare you have to be legally in the country, don't you?
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Yeah......


What does that have to do with the "price of the banana's"?

By the way, illegal parents do qualify for welfare if their kids are citizens(Hello)

I don't know too many 5 year olds that are in charge of finances(LOL)
 
TheParser said:
Patrick Henry was a patriot and a courageous man.

I am, however, a nobody and a coward.

Like most people, I go along in order to get along.
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If you're and American you're more than "Somebody"

That is what is wrong with America and what our Founding Fathers feared

Our founders all agreed on one thing. That our country depended on a "Virtuous"(Strong, potent , effectus) citizenry

It's also the radicals that are the real history changers

There you have it
Yeppers
 
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Mycroft said:
shrug...

Okay. Have it your way. Don't read the article.
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So... is there any point in your article that you would like to point out/defend?

The floor is all yours(wink)
 
Luther said:
So... is there any point in your article that you would like to point out/defend?

The floor is all yours(wink)
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Read the whole thing.

I'm not defending anything. This is for your education. Take it or leave it.
 
Mycroft said:
Read the whole thing.

I'm not defending anything. This is for your education. Take it or leave it.
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Ah.... so you cannot defend any of you points?


Got it!!!!!

By the way, I have been studying this stuff for over 15 years.

I don't need an opinion piece to educate me
 
Luther said:
Ah.... so you cannot defend any of you points?


Got it!!!!!

By the way, I have been studying this stuff for over 15 years.

I don't need an opinion piece to educate me
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Keep studying...
 
Funny I use to hear that Hispanics are coming to Trump in droves

That was before this thread
 
Luther said:
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Year Republican Party of Florida Florida Democratic Party Minor Parties No Party Affiliation Total
2019 4,716,019 4,955,183 130,036 3,604,396 13,405,634
2018 4,718,720 4,975,895 113,489 3,588,518 13,396,622
2017 4,544,708 4,807,950 65,526 3,449,005 12,867,189


But who still has the advantage? The dems by about 234,000

Both parties have lost a bit
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But it also backs up what I said, in that it is a purple state with Republicans gaining a few net votes over Democrats every year - Democrats are losing more ground every year than Republicans are. In just the last year you start off with a purple state where Democrats lost 20,000 registered voters to 2,000 registered Republican voters.
 
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