April is Confederate Heritage Month!

[Threegoofs]

We should celebrate it by highlighting all the Southern heroes who did NOT betray their nation.

Here’s a fantastic twitter thread celebrating these patriots, while making the subtle point that confederates were not patriots.. they were traitors.

What a great idea! There’s dozens of examples and pics in the thread.

Angry Staff Officer on Twitter: "Tomorrow begins #ConfederateHeritageMonth in seven US states. Celebrate it by spreading the word that southern hegemony in secession was a lie - this thread celebrates all the southerners who remained loyal to the US, and to their oath.… https://t.co/nvgvH0Q33D"

Also, Alabama brothers David and William Birney. David would rise to division & corps command, William commanded black troops in combat. Both rose to the rank of major general and managed to be true to their country.

 

[Threegoofs]

“How about the good gentleman from Tennessee, David Farragut? He thumbed his nose at the rebellion and went on to become victor of New Orleans and Mobile Bay, forcing the US Navy to create the rank of full admiral for him.”

 

[Threegoofs]

“Who's this fellow? Oh, just the Virginian Rear Admiral Samuel Phillips Lee, US Navy.

Yes, THAT Lee. Robert's cousin. Unlike his cousin, Samuel remained true to his nation and served honorably through the Civil War.”

 

[Bodi]

Why they would have an anniversary to celebrate getting their traitorous asses kicked is beyond me...

But...

HAPPY ANNIVERSARY LOSERS!!

 

[ralphcdp]

We should celebrate it by highlighting all the Southern heroes who did NOT betray their nation.

They only wanted their freedom and stunning hypocrites that those of the USA are, they said, "No, we were borne of the founding terrorists but you can't do what the founding terrorists did, seek freedom from an oppressive north whose only concern was, as always, MONEY. The super high tariff north didn't like the free trade south.

 

[$1000]

This is typically ahistorical, lol. As someone who lived in Gettysburg for a time, and has been to every civil war museum there multiple times (because anytime someone visits, oh my Lord, we have to see the museums!), the Confederates were never seen as 'traitors' once the peace was signed. Not by Grant, not by the US military. Not by McKinley, who was a Union General and officially made them veterans. This is really a bizarre modern development born out of a desire to mock those 'silly rednecks', and is completely divorced from anything which has actually happened.

"Sectional lines no longer mar the map of the United States. Sectional feeling no longer holds back the love we bear each other. Fraternity is the national anthem, sung by a chorus of forty-five states and our Territories at home and beyond the seas. The Union is once more the common altar of our love and loyalty, our devotion and sacrifice. The old flag again waves over us in peace, with new glories which your sons and ours have this year added to its sacred folds. What an army of silent sentinels we have, and with what loving care their graves are kept! Every soldier's grave made during our unfortunate Civil War is a tribute to American valor. And while, when those graves were made, we differed widely about the future of this government, those differences were long ago settled by the arbitrament of arms; and the time has now come, in the evolution of sentiment and feeling under the providence of God, when in the spirit of fraternity we should share with you in the care of the graves of the Confederate soldiers.

The Cordial feeling now happily existing between the North and South prompts this gracious act, and if it needed further justification, it is found in the gallant loyalty to the Union and the flag so conspicuously shown in the year just past by the sons and grandsons of these heroic dead.

What a glorious future awaits us if united, wisely, and bravely we face the new problems now pressing upon us, determined to solve them for right and humanity.

That flag has been planted in two hemispheres, and there it remains the symbol of liberty and law, of peace and progress. Who will withdraw from the people over whom it floats its protecting folds? Who will haul it down? Answer me, ye men of the South, who is there in Dixie who will haul it down?

Reunited! Glorious realization! It expresses the thought of my mind and the long-deferred consummation of my heart's desire as I stand in this presence. It interprets the hearty demonstration here witnessed, and is the patriotic of all sections and of all lovers of the Republic.

Reunited -- One country again and one country forever! Proclaim it from the press and pulpit; teach it in the schools; write it across the skies! The world sees and feels it; it cheers every heart North and South, and brightens the life of every American home."
- President McKinley -

 

[truthatallcost]

Or, we could do a mash-up, since May is Jewish Heritage month.

Judah P. Benjamin, first practicing Jewish Senator, first Attorney General of the Confederate States, 2nd Confederate States Secretary of War, Confederate States Secretary of State.

How History Forgot Judah P. Benjamin, the 19th Century’s Most Prominent American Jew – Tablet Magazine

 

[Threegoofs]

This is typically ahistorical, lol. As someone who lived in Gettysburg for a time, and has been to every civil war museum there multiple times (because anytime someone visits, oh my Lord, we have to see the museums!), the Confederates were never seen as 'traitors' once the peace was signed. Not by Grant, not by the US military. Not by McKinley, who was a Union General and officially made them veterans. This is really a bizarre modern development born out of a desire to mock those 'silly rednecks', and is completely divorced from anything which has actually happened.

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LOL.

“Not by Grant, not by the US military”

Here are Grants very words:

If you read the thread, you would have been that. But since you know history so well, you couldn’t be bothered.

 

[Threegoofs]

Or, we could do a mash-up, since May is Jewish Heritage month.

Judah P. Benjamin, first practicing Jewish Senator, first Attorney General of the Confederate States, 2nd Confederate States Secretary of War, Confederate States Secretary of State.

How History Forgot Judah P. Benjamin, the 19th Century’s Most Prominent American Jew – Tablet Magazine

Southerners only like white Anglo Saxon Protestant traitors.

 

[truthatallcost]

Benjamin F. Jonas, was a Democratic U.S. Senator from Louisiana and an officer in the Confederate States Army during the American Civil War. He was the third Jew to serve in the Senate. Despite his family's strong Republican connections, Benjamin Jonas cast his lot with Democrats & the South in the Civil War.

Benjamin F. Jonas - Wikipedia

 

[Threegoofs]

Benjamin F. Jonas, was a Democratic U.S. Senator from Louisiana and an officer in the Confederate States Army during the American Civil War. He was the third Jew to serve in the Senate. Despite his family's strong Republican connections, Benjamin Jonas cast his lot with Democrats & the South in the Civil War.

Benjamin F. Jonas - Wikipedia

Sounds like a traitor.

 

[$1000]

LOL.

“Not by Grant, not by the US military”

Here are Grants very words:

If you read the thread, you would have been that. But since you know history so well, you couldn’t be bothered.

Um, that says report TO Ulysses S. Grant. So, not his very words. Here are Grants own words:

'The war is over — the rebels are our countrymen again.'

Quite famous ones as well...

 

[Chomsky]

“How about the good gentleman from Tennessee, David Farragut? He thumbed his nose at the rebellion and went on to become victor of New Orleans and Mobile Bay, forcing the US Navy to create the rank of full admiral for him.”

So that's who the High school is named after ...

 

[truthatallcost]

Adolph Proskauer was a Jewish officer in the army of the Confederate States of America during the United States Civil War. He rose to the rank of major.

Adolph Proskauer - Wikipedia

 

[yankintx]

They only wanted their freedom and stunning hypocrites that those of the USA are, they said, "No, we were borne of the founding terrorists but you can't do what the founding terrorists did, seek freedom from an oppressive north whose only concern was, as always, MONEY. The super high tariff north didn't like the free trade south.

Your correct it was about money. The Souths economy relied HEAVILY on slave labor. The South did not want to give up their free labor.

 

[truthatallcost]

Simon Baruch was a Jewish surgeon in the American Civil War; serving in the Confederate States Army and reportedly entering the service "without even having lanced a boil." Afterwards, he was imprisoned at Fort McHenry in Baltimore, Maryland. His son Bernard M. Baruch went on to a successful career on Wall Street and a financial advisor to U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, advising Wilson during the Treaty of Versailles negotiations, which bankrupted Germany, making Germans resort to Nazism in order to free themselves from economic slavery to the banks that Baruch and others benefitted with the treaty.

Simon Baruch - Wikipedia

 

[ralphcdp]

Your[SIC] correct it was about money. The Souths economy relied HEAVILY on slave labor. The South did not want to give up their free labor.

The south were free traders. The north didn't give a rat's ass about slavery. Look at how the founding terrorists, the stunning hypocrites "all men are created equal" sold their souls for money.

 

[Threegoofs]

Um, that says report TO Ulysses S. Grant. So, not his very words. Here are Grants own words:

'The war is over — the rebels are our countrymen again.'

Quite famous ones as well...

Yep- that was GH Thomas, a Union officer, who reflected the views of many Union officers.

 

[Nickyjo]

They only wanted their freedom and stunning hypocrites that those of the USA are, they said, "No, we were borne of the founding terrorists but you can't do what the founding terrorists did, seek freedom from an oppressive north whose only concern was, as always, MONEY. The super high tariff north didn't like the free trade south.

Gee, I bet if the South had abolished slavery, the North might have given a bit on tariffs. But the South fought to preserve its peculiar institution. They said so. I don’t recall “tariffs” appearing in either Dixie or The Battle Hym of the Republic.

Slavery is not free trade, by the way.

 

[yankintx]

The south were free traders. The north didn't give a rat's ass about slavery. Look at how the founding terrorists, the stunning hypocrites "all men are created equal" sold their souls for money.

Your repeating your previous post ver batum. Care to address the Souths penchant for slave labor ? Shameful is it not? Even the British Empire had banned slavery, but the South clung to it, shamefull.

 

[$1000]

Yep- that was GH Thomas, a Union officer, who reflected the views of many Union officers.

Yeah, I never denied that some in the union held that belief, that would be retarded. Of course after a brutal world people on both sides would be bitter. But the leadership didn't endorse it. You countered said claim by saying 'Here are Grants very words:' and then supplying a GH Thomas quote, which... clearly isn't 'Grants own words'.

I'm not even a 'lost cause' defender, but the idea that Confederate soldier were considered 'vile traitors' just isn't historically accurate. It's an entirely anachronistic take that draws more on 20th century American chauvinism than it does on the actual views of 19th century Americans.

 

[ralphcdp]

Your repeating your previous post ver batum. Care to address the Souths penchant for slave labor ? Shameful is it not? Even the British Empire had banned slavery, but the South clung to it, shamefull.

The north, and Lincoln didn't give a **** about Blacks and slavery. The whole ****ing century after the CW tells the tale about that.

 

[Threegoofs]

So that's who the High school is named after ...

You’ll like this one too:

“Also, Georgian Montgomery Meigs, West Pointer, engineer, served with RE Lee. At secession, stayed true to the US, became the chief logistician of the US Army (Seward called him key to victory), & established the US National Cemetery in Lee's back yard.”

Chicago has lots of honors to real Civil War heroes- Union soldiers.

Meigs, Sheridan, Sedgwick, Douglas, Logan...

 

[Threegoofs]

The north, and Lincoln didn't give a **** about Blacks and slavery. The whole ****ing century after the CW tells the tale about that.

LOL.

I guess they just did abolitionism for fun.

 

[Threegoofs]

Yeah, I never denied that some in the union held that belief, that would be retarded. Of course after a brutal world people on both sides would be bitter. But the leadership didn't endorse it. You countered said claim by saying 'Here are Grants very words:' and then supplying a GH Thomas quote, which... clearly isn't 'Grants own words'.

I'm not even a 'lost cause' defender, but the idea that Confederate soldier were considered 'vile traitors' just isn't historically accurate. It's an entirely anachronistic take that draws more on 20th century American chauvinism than it does on the actual views of 19th century Americans.

The hero worship didn’t really start til the 20th century.

And it’s time to stop it.