A Question To Pro-Choice People

[marke]

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So then you arent one of those, correct? You are "one of the people" that thinks it's fine for the govt to force a woman to remain pregnant against her will? Yes or no? Violating her Constitutional rights and bodily sovereignty? Up to and including her life (even the govt cant save a woman from dying in childbirth).

For myself, of course it would be cruel to force women to do that (in your quote)...cruel, barbaric, unAmerican, and unChrisitian.

Democrats in the US once treated their slaves like trash. Now they treat their own babies like trash.

 

[marke]

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No...that is illegal. By law, the Dr must give the lethal injection first. That abortion method is no longer legal either. Stop using bad information, it makes your views look even more neanderthalic.

The really brutal, gory types of abortion were illegal, then legal, then again illegal. That just means that abortion is not a God given eternal human right.

 

[Lursa]

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"Rare" especially if you have come to love the unborn baby that is under consideration for execution.

Why would a woman that loves her unborn baby have an abortion? :doh

Only in the most desperate and tragic circumstances, right?

Good question.

I did answer it...so then why did you remove it from my quote? I added the complete quote here, so we can see that either you're dishonest or didnt understand it. Which is it? Or is it both?

 

[marke]

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If her parents had the money to take care of her, why was she on Medicaid?

The money that was awarded to her had run out. There was none left.

She would not have been on medicaid if her parents had been given the right to care for her instead of her hateful greedy despicable husband.

 

[Lursa]

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The really brutal, gory types of abortion were illegal, then legal, then again illegal. That just means that abortion is not a God given eternal human right.

Of course it's not. That doesnt even exist. :doh That's some religious belief of yours. And quite convoluted the way you express it.

It's a legal right in America.

 

[Lursa]

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So then you arent one of those, correct? You are "one of the people" that thinks it's fine for the govt to force a woman to remain pregnant against her will? Yes or no? Violating her Constitutional rights and bodily sovereignty? Up to and including her life (even the govt cant save a woman from dying in childbirth).

For myself, of course it would be cruel to force women to do that (in your quote)...cruel, barbaric, unAmerican, and unChrisitian.

Democrats in the US once treated their slaves like trash. Now they treat their own babies like trash.

That's not an answer to this:

You are "one of the people" that thinks it's fine for the govt to force a woman to remain pregnant against her will? Yes or no?

Why not? Care to try again?

 

[marke]

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No, she should have the right to decide if she wants to have an abortion.

It is not her decision whether or not her baby is a worthy to live since her privilege of choosing whether or not to kill it takes precedence over the consequences to the living unborn baby?

 

[Lursa]

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If I want a fatally injured animal killed, all I have to do is take it to an approved pet butcher, like a licensed abortionist if I want an unborn baby removed for convenience?

I never heard of this new fantasy of yours but it is as self-indulgently and inaccurately described as your ghoulish fantasies of abortions. Your mind seems to live in some charnel house where you find stimulation in death fantasies.

Perhaps you should consider meditating?

 

[Logician Man]

No one is forcing them to copulate .

What bubble are you existing in ? Ever heard of 'forced rape' ?...or are you make exceptions for those who become impregnated by 'forced' copulation ?

 

[Lursa]

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Post birth abortions are now in vogue with modern democrat politicians. It is scary how far left modern democrat candidates are going in seeking to overthrow Trump in 2020.

Please explain: what is a post-birth abortion?

 

[Lursa]

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It is not her decision whether or not her baby is a worthy to live since her privilege of choosing whether or not to kill it takes precedence over the consequences to the living unborn baby?

Yes it is. Completely hers.

 

[Individual]

So, whether the unborn is human or not, your position is that the government shouldn't be controlling.
You've never used the argument that the fetus is not human?

When a Woman becomes pregnant, as the result of a sperm impregnating the egg, cell division begins in which the creation of a human life goes through stages pre-birth, zygote, embryo, and fetus.
Abortion, IMO, occurs when the woman decides to cease production prior to birth, and in rare cases may be finalized outside her body.
Also IMO, government has no rights to become involved until a birth has been documented through the creation of a birth certificate.

I've not seen anyone use the argument that a fetus is not human, although the term fetus indicates that birth has yet to occur.

No Woman should ever be forced to bring a life into existence, and should be the sole sovereign authority allowed to make that decision.

 

[year2late]

What "slut-shaming?"
Are sluts the only ones who get pregnant? :lol:

Btw, they could even get something more nasty than just normal pregnancy!
They could end up with......... STD!

You'd think women would wise up, and insist on condoms!



My statement is bang-on. Why don't you answer the question?

Pro-choice's argument is that, the woman has autonomy of her body:
If she's the one who has sole control - then, the buck stops with her!
She's the one who's ultimately responsible!

So.....how did she end up with a baby living inside her?

Who allowed that penis inside her body? hello?
She's the one who has sole control of her body, right?

What? You're saying these women are morons - they don't know the possible consequence of copulation?
They're nitwits who never heard of contraception?

Yes, the woman (unless raped) has control of her body.

Birth control has failure rates, you know that, right?

The women most at risk for abortion (working poor) are frequently too rich for medicaid or too poor for insurance. The most reliable form are the jimplantables and IUDs which can cost about 2 times the cost of an abortion, Other forms like BCP - the effectiveness can completely go away if you miss one dose,

Again, you are insisting the woman place the value of a full person into her belly. Most abortions are done in the first trimester. I personally would not have an abortion, but nor do I place the "value" of a fetus as a full person. You are having a rant trying to make others feel your way. And you don't. Clearly legally not a person, and IMHO not a person either. It is a possible person. An embryo or fetus that is human.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Lol. You don't get it. Who allowed that penis inside her body? hello?
She's the one who has sole control of her body, right? :lol:

What? You're saying these women are morons - they don't know the possible consequence of copulation?
They're nitwit who never heard of contraception?

If you can't grasp what I'm saying - goodbye!

The smoker knows that his/her habit can result in lung cancer. We still allow him/her to have the tumour(s) removed.

 

[year2late]

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We already know from Lisa Pager's testimony that the FBI spent 8 months investigating possible collusion between Trump and Russia and they found nothing at all. So leftists doubled down and appointed Mueller to look some more, which he has done and has still come up empty. Talking about throwing millions in tax monies down the democrat drain.

Rod Rosenstein is a leftist?

The Mueller investigation is for discovering....

"any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" .

I would think that President Trump....a true patriot, would want to know if anyone inside his campaign was linked or coordinating with a foreign power,

The fact that there was alot of poorly cooperative individuals hell bent on protecting themselves by witholding (or lying about) information made this investigation draw out if longer than needed. The narcissist in President Trump really believes that "because I said so" is a final answer. It is not is not the fault of Mueller that President Trump has associated himself with so many swamp creatures - which complicate the investigation.

 

[Scrabaholic]

So you support not being responsible for your actions. Thank you, that was what we needed to hear.

Having an abortion when one cannot or will not properly care for a child IS responsible. It is NOT responsible to birth a child you cannot or will not take care of. Or to pawn it off on others to raise.

 

[Scrabaholic]

No one is forcing them to copulate .

I never said anyone was.

 

[minnie616]

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Democrats in the US once treated their slaves like trash. Now they treat their own babies like trash.

Women from all political parties including republicans/conservatives have abortions.

 

[minnie616]

No one is forcing them to copulate .

Rapists use force.

 

[minnie616]

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According to radical leftists, faithful democrats, Nazi infanticidists, biased biologists, corrupted doctors, ungodly God-rejecting morons, and a possible drunk or two in the gutter, unborn human babies are not living human beings.

According to the following quote from Christianity Today “ God does not regard the fetus as a soul, no matter how far gestation has progressed.”




In 1968, Christianity Today published a special issue on contraception and abortion, among evangelical thinkers at the time. In the leading article, professor Bruce Waltke, of the famously conservative Dallas Theological Seminary, explained the Bible plainly teaches that life begins at birth:

“God does not regard the fetus as a soul, no matter how far gestation has progressed. The Law plainly exacts: 'If a man kills any human life he will be put to death' (Lev. 24:17). But according to Exodus 21:22–24, the destruction of the fetus is not a capital offense… Clearly, then, in contrast to the mother, the fetus is not reckoned as a soul.”

 

[poweRob]

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The case flip-flopped through courts and the SCOTUS refused to overturn the last judgment rendered by the lower court. Politicians and Americans formed strong opinions on both sides, but the demonic ACLU and the leftist murderous democrats won in the end.

Because God wanted it that way. How come you aren't with God's plan?

 

[minnie616]

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Who said unborn babies don't have brains? Dr. Kevorkian? The Marquis de Sade? Al Gore?

Leading neuroscientist Michael Gazzaniga , ( a member of President Bush’s Council on Bioethics) said that before about 26 weeks the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as a someone brain dead.

As leading neuroscientist Michael Gazzaniga,President Bush’s Council on Bioethics, describes in his book The Ethical Brain,
current neurology suggests that a fetus doesn’t possess enough neural structure to harbor consciousness until about 26 weeks, when it first seems to react to pain. Before that, the fetal neural structure is about as sophisticated as that of a sea slug and its EEG as flat and unorganized as that of someone brain-dead.

Read more:

The Consciousness Meter: Sure You Want That? | WIRED

 

[Lursa]

When a Woman becomes pregnant, as the result of a sperm impregnating the egg, cell division begins in which the creation of a human life goes through stages pre-birth, zygote, embryo, and fetus.
Abortion, IMO, occurs when the woman decides to cease production prior to birth, and in rare cases may be finalized outside her body.
Also IMO, government has no rights to become involved until a birth has been documented through the creation of a birth certificate.

I've not seen anyone use the argument that a fetus is not human, although the term fetus indicates that birth has yet to occur.

No Woman should ever be forced to bring a life into existence, and should be the sole sovereign authority allowed to make that decision.

I like!

And the OP has yet to offer proof of her OP claim. Altho I've asked her a few times.

 

[Peter King]

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It is not her decision whether or not her baby is a worthy to live since her privilege of choosing whether or not to kill it takes precedence over the consequences to the living unborn baby?

It is her right to decide whatever she feels like, that is the right to choose. It says nothing about how she may or may not have thought about her fetus.

 

[Individual]

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Except in very rare instances, the decision to abort should be made prior to cutting the umbilical.
Although I agree, it would be best to make the decision earlier, but once birth has occurred resulting in a healthy baby and a birth certificate has been made, only then should the choice no longer exist to abort.