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What "well regulated" means in the 2nd Amendment

rocket88 said:
"Regulated: and "infringed" are two different words with different meanings. Infringe does not mean to limit.
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The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What does that line mean to you?
 
Tlrmln said:
Nonsensical response. Try harder.

In any case, it doesn't matter what the phrase "well-regulated" means. It's use as an adjective to modify the word militia. It doesn't refer in any way to the actual right being protected by the 2nd Amendment, which is the right to keep and bear arms.
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I would posit that "well-regulated" does not mean "completely unregulated"
 
AlphaOmega said:
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What does that line mean to you?
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It shall not be broken. Meaning guns cannot be banned, but they can be "well-regulated" as the Second Amendment says.
 
DebateChallenge said:
Found a great video which explains the 2nd Amendment and what "well regulated" means.
YouTube
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The problem being that SCOTUS (in the 1940's) with their overreach changed the meaning of the second amendment into a federal pro gun rights amendment. Other parts of the The Constitution are pro gun rights and, definitely, state constitutions were pro-gun rights.
 
rocket88 said:
It shall not be broken. Meaning guns cannot be banned, but they can be "well-regulated" as the Second Amendment says.
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What if you convince this poster? You still have to convince SCOTUS.
 
rocket88 said:
I'm 110 percent behind requiring a gun safety course to get a permit.
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I'm 200% against having any constitutional rights rental agreements, whether payable at the state or federal government level. I am willing to compromise so long as the requirements to register to vote and to retain 2A rights (keep and bear) are exactly the same.
 
It means the militia should be well trained and heavily armed; the same weapons as the army.
 
apdst said:
It means the militia should be well trained and heavily armed; the same weapons as the army.
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Stinger missiles for everyone!!!!!
 
ttwtt78640 said:
I'm 200% against having any constitutional rights rental agreements, whether payable at the state or federal government level. I am willing to compromise so long as the requirements to register to vote and to retain 2A rights (keep and bear) are exactly the same.
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Oh no, I'm totally opposed to any registration.
 
BlueTex said:
LOL... I'm sure this video will be cited in many future court cases....
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Reid Hendrichs should be allowed to testify in every gun control case.
 
Tlrmln said:
It's not possible to have an organized and properly functioning militia, if the members of the militia don't have firearms or know how to use them.
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Already expressly covered in our federal Constitution.

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
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VanceMack said:
Of course...which is why the 2nd Amendment to the Bill of Rights guaranteeing the rights of the PEOPLE (by limiting the powers of government) to keep and bear arms is without legitimate question.
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Our Second Amendment is not about Individual rights or it would say so, in the first clause.
 
VanceMack said:
PEOPLE complain about gun control. People are the militia.

You know that there are at least three recognized form/types of militias, right?
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Only the unorganized militia complains about gun control. Well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment.
 
danielpalos said:
Our Second Amendment is not about Individual rights or it would say so, in the first clause.
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You struggle with "the people"...just as you struggle with the Bill of Rights...not because you dont know what it means and was written for, but because you disagree and dont like it.
 
danielpalos said:
Only the unorganized militia complains about gun control. Well regulated militia have literal recourse to our Second Amendment.
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ORGANIZED militias are PROVIDED weapons. Unorganized and State recognized militias bring their own weapons to the dance.
 
AlphaOmega said:
The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. What does that line mean to you?
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That's not a line, it's a phrase snipped out of a sentence. You guys need to remember that there are some people who want to thoughtfully consider the meaning of the Constitution and not just cherry-pick phrases that fit on bumper stickers. The sentence is, "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." and the topic here is the qualifier, "well-regulated militia". You don't do your cause any good by waving one phrase like a flag and ignoring the context.
 
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