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One other point...Public money belongs in public hands!
That is why government should not pay for schools.
One other point...Public money belongs in public hands!
The point is most won't run into those odds and will be left with loads of crappie applicants.
As opposed to a class you doze through in undergrad? I think you could see people who are motivated and mature learners take more away from a seminar.
One other point...Public money belongs in public hands!
This shows you don't know the complex nature of teaching struggling learners. It is a on going process because there is so much information to learn and understand. Much like any profession.
Not sure I understand.
Teachers are NOT glorified daycare workers. When you have a room of 30 kids and say 7 are struggling readers and 5 have some form of dyspraxia and several have a variety of other issues. You may also have a few students with ADD, one with the additional label of ODD and possible CD. You also have two students with emotional issues, one with PTSD. You also have a variety of students with some form of dyscalculia and dyslexia. They struggle with not just reading but writing and mathematical skills. Now, you are responsible for assessing everyone of those students in all core subject matter, and be responsible for every student to make x amount of progress which can only be x amount away from the common core standards or 1. You get a needs improvement and can possibly lose your job or don't move up the pay scale depending on your school district rules. Please explain how you can compare that to homeschooling or daycare work?
Located in Reading, Pennsylvania, Mary's Day Care Center offers a nurturing environment for children eight weeks up to twelve years old. It provides infant and toddler care that encourage development. Additionally, it offers a preschool curriculum that involves kindergarten readiness. The Center accommodates children at a maximum capacity of forty-five.
I don't disagree that severe disabilities can be difficult. I simply think that you are assuming that current, credentialed teachers have the capability you are looking for.
If you can't fill positions due to low pay, lowering standards will most definitely fill positions, most likely with undesirable consequences.
Actually, yes, they are. Might suck to hear it, but its the truth. Believe it or not there are day care centers that deal with the same exact things that teachers deal with. Only the day care centers don't get 3 months out of the year off. Or did you not know that many daycare centers now a days also offer rudimentary reading and math? Here is one such example ~ Mary's Day Care Center
Many do
Every teacher I work with has a Master's with advanced studies in reading, writing, mathematics and how to help struggling learners is a top priority when studying for advanced credentials/certifications.
They also become master teachers to help new teachers while they advance in their studies.
Every teacher in this state is expected to continue to train and earn PDPS in order to earn recertification every 5 years.
Then privatize the schools and make it illegal for parents to dodge. They can choose the schools they want and apply for scholarships, if the kids produce the notes.
Do they lose their job if all 45 do not reach the common core standards via test results? Please let me know the accountability.
Many do not, and the idea that a bachelors in education is the Great Dividing Line between those who do and those who don't is laughable.
:shrug: then they can go get that credential, or not, if they want to, or don't. I have two Masters degrees, and have looked through several Education programs (and am now in one). I'm not terribly impressed with credentialism in general, and this one in particular.
Goodness. New teachers require mentorship from master teachers in order to improve their teaching?
Why do we hire such incapable people? How can we hire them unless they already have the credentials that they (may) get years later in their career? Don't You Care About The Children!?!?!?!.
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Okedoke.
I don't disagree that severe disabilities can be difficult. I simply think that you are assuming that current, credentialed teachers have the capability you are looking for.
If they don't meet the parents standards they can certainly lose customers. So essentially the same thing since without customers they are out of a job. :shrug:
But seriously, lets not try and nitpick here. There are differences between the two. That's obvious. But those differences are minor compared to the over all work that they both do. Which is teach children.
Wow. But this doesn't surprise me. When communities choose to treat teachers like crap, they flee in droves. As a related example, Wisconsin's state government recently cut a quarter of a billion dollars from its higher education fund and sent it to a new basketball arena in downtown Milwaukee.
Oh, that wen through? Hilarious as was Scott Walker's presidential bid.