What do you think of the current Pope?

[haymarket]

Jesus is Lord, not the Pope.

Actually Jesus runs the bodega which has the two for one special on Tuesday Taco night.

 

[lb_on_teh_cb]

I like him mostly, and I am a former catholic (K-12). He is a million times better than the corrupt old fool he replaced. There is finally a pope that is willing to have a bit of an open mind on some of the more stringent and nonsensical dogma of the church.

i'm not sure what the church is there for any more. their "beliefs" seem to keep changing to catch up with their member$$$

 

[notquiteright]

Lets see, His weak and accommodating stance on homosexuality, then in a time of a declining and aging population, particularly in Europe, he has made statements against the tradition of large families, has accepted the outlandish lie of climate change, additionally his stances with environmentalists on things that have a true benefit to all mankind such as fracking, has contradicted the former Pope on whose realization that Marxism-Socialism is a failed system, has even called for redistribution of wealth on a state scale, the changes he has made to church policy regarding marriage and divorce... I think you get the drift and those are a few of the more obvious ones.

Oh I get the drift, straight out of radical right talk radio... :2wave:

I see his 'weak and accommodating stance' as what would Jesus do...

he said- "Large families are a true gift from God, but Catholics don't have to be like rabbits"- not quite the same as you claim, quite sensible to me and I thought many Conservative types- don't have large families unless you can afford such. He certainly didn't say there should be no large families.

I live in Oklahoma, we are rocked almost daily by earthquakes most scientists attribute to fracking- NOT a benefit to ALL mankind, just those who think fuel for gas guzzlers are a birth right.

I missed where he praised Marxism/Socialism (they are NOT the same fyi)

Again you misquote the Pope- he said, "the legitimate redistribution of economic benefits by the state as well as indispensable cooperation between the private sector and civil society." Now many Americans support Bernie and Donald's claim that the upper 1% get the bulk of the 'new' wealth in this country, that the game is rigged for the wealthy. But that is hardly Marxism.

On divorce- I quote His Eminence, "Those who think this is 'Catholic Divorce' are wrong because this last document has closed the door to divorce...."

Any more misconceptions/falsehoods you need straightened out? eace

 

[Kobie]

I voted "other".

#1) I'm not a catholic
#2) I'd simply say he's a far better Pope than previous Popes. Keep in mind that's 100% relative.

My feelings as well. He's fine, by pope standards.

 

[SecularSapience]

Hahaha. For a change, we have a pope who reflects the actual views of Jesus and it pisses conservatives off to no end. "How dare he care about the poor as Jesus did!" "How dare he promote equality among fellow humans as Jesus did!" This is Christianity 101. Again, I'm not religious in any way, and I believe religion is one of the biggest problems in our country, but if you're going to claim to be a 'believer', at least abide by the tenets of said religion.

 

[JANFU]

The pope should stay out of US presidential politics. Trump's plan to secure the border is not much different than that of most other republicants - Trump is more adamant about "mass" deportation but other than making Mexico pay for our wall is not unique.

I find it odd that a pope living in a walled city/state would find fault with building border walls or controlling immigration. Singling out Trump for special papal attention and the added free "news" publicity it brings will not likely have the desired affect.

He has commented on other countries - is that permitted?

 

[OpportunityCost]

Then, a political candidate shouldn't ever talk religion, or try to change laws to reflect his particular religious bent, how about that?

Because Churches have restrictions on their tax code that prevent them from advocating for or against candidates for one thing. For another its not up to the Pope to determine who is Christian, that is up to the denomination he belongs to and God.

Political candidates talk religion to an extent to establish their background and the influences in their lives.

Lastly,
Thou shalt not steal, yeah who the **** needs that?
Thou shalt not murder, toss that piece of **** out.....

I think you need to follow the three step rule established by Craig Ferguson.
1. Does this need to be said?
2. Does this need to be said by me?
3. Does this need to be said by me right now?
Took Craig three marriages to get it right. I'm giving you a leg up, my friend

 

[DiAnna]

I like him. He is fairly blunt, not bothering to meet with aides to find out what he's supposed to think/say on every issue. As such, he has made some missteps, such as aiming his remarks at Trump, while simultaneously tarnishing tens of millions of Americans who really do want that damned wall built, and still consider themselves Christian. It was a Pope-y boo-boo, which shows that even the Holy Father is still human!

 

[Moot]

Hahaha. For a change, we have a pope who reflects the actual views of Jesus and it pisses conservatives off to no end. "How dare he care about the poor as Jesus did!" "How dare he promote equality among fellow humans as Jesus did!" This is Christianity 101. Again, I'm not religious in any way, and I believe religion is one of the biggest problems in our country, but if you're going to claim to be a 'believer', at least abide by the tenets of said religion.

Amen.

 

[jet57]

While I do like him and some of the things he's done, it seems to me that he wants to be as much of a political figure as a religious one. I'm even ok with that but the he should expect the same push back and criticism as any other politician.

I'm not sure the Pope really wants to be a political figure, rather I think that he's commenting on issues ion order to state a new presence of position for the church that people can listen to without having to wonder about it.

 

[X Factor]

I like him. He is fairly blunt, not bothering to meet with aides to find out what he's supposed to think/say on every issue. As such, he has made some missteps, such as aiming his remarks at Trump, while simultaneously tarnishing tens of millions of Americans who really do want that damned wall built, and still consider themselves Christian. It was a Pope-y boo-boo, which shows that even the Holy Father is still human!

Actually, it's a fence, at least where I live. A wall would probably have been better as the fence is leaving streaks of rust on its concrete base (why would they use metal that rusts?). Still, it's actually quite effective. It's not fool proof but it's like putting an alarm system on your house. Someone determined could still get in but any barrier to entry makes it somewhat more secure.

As far as the Pope deciding who is and is not Christian, well, I've never been comfortable with anyone deciding that. Even those west borough goofballs, as much as I want to disown them, I don't really feel it's my place to say. Then again, I'm not the Pope. I guess if any earthly figure comes close to being an authority on that, it would be him.

 

[99percenter]

The pope supports illegal immigration because most Mexicans are catholic and he wants to fill his pews.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

While I do like him and some of the things he's done, it seems to me that he wants to be as much of a political figure as a religious one. I'm even ok with that but the he should expect the same push back and criticism as any other politician.

The history of the Catholic church is intriguing and entertaining.
Other than that, I could give a whiff who the pope is or what he is doing.

 

[_Sal]

While I do like him and some of the things he's done, it seems to me that he wants to be as much of a political figure as a religious one. I'm even ok with that but the he should expect the same push back and criticism as any other politician.

I think he is okey dokey and the real thing....which means he is sincere, follows his heart, has a genuine love for people and is also intelligent

I like that he doesn't filter as much as others have.

 

[_Sal]

I'm not sure the Pope really wants to be a political figure, rather I think that he's commenting on issues ion order to state a new presence of position for the church that people can listen to without having to wonder about it.

I agree with this statement

 

[_Sal]

Hahaha. For a change, we have a pope who reflects the actual views of Jesus and it pisses conservatives off to no end. "How dare he care about the poor as Jesus did!" "How dare he promote equality among fellow humans as Jesus did!" This is Christianity 101. Again, I'm not religious in any way, and I believe religion is one of the biggest problems in our country, but if you're going to claim to be a 'believer', at least abide by the tenets of said religion.

yeah, I would say this pretty much sums up everything

 

[_Sal]

Very well said and expresses my feelings exactly. Though I am Catholic, I wince nearly everytime he gives another hasty press interview.

really?

'cause I smile

 

[lb_on_teh_cb]

The pope supports illegal immigration because most Mexicans are catholic and he wants to fill his pews.

Exactly!!!!! except replace mejicans with spanish, as in all of central and south america

pope and catholic church = just another whr$$$

 

[humbolt]

Liked John Paul better. More better, even. The eastern Europeans have their stuff together when it comes to food, beer, and Popes. In a related issue, have they removed all the coal dust in Prague yet? Anybody?

 

[Phys251]

I think he's overrated. Not bad, just overrated.

 

[Cephus]

I like him mostly, and I am a former catholic (K-12). He is a million times better than the corrupt old fool he replaced. There is finally a pope that is willing to have a bit of an open mind on some of the more stringent and nonsensical dogma of the church.

But he still has no power to change any of it. Name one significant thing that he's actually changed about the Church since he came to power. Not a damn thing. He talks a good game but at the end of the day, he's just a worthless windbag.

 

[Cryptic]

really?

'cause I smile

I was smiling at the excitement surrounding his election. That smile, however, stated to fade and has not been back. That aside, I don't think he is a bad Pope. Rather, I just think he is overwhelmed as indicated by the pattern of proclamations, followed by retractions, clarifications, or new translations. To paraphrase forum member Goshin: He does not always think before he speaks, and that is not good for a senior leader. In the end, Goshin's observation is the same for progressive and conservative leaders. Even his most current proclamation about the Donald has already been "clarified" so the pattern goes on.

 

[Grand Mal]

When you have the left, who hate any kind of organized religion and are mostly atheistic, all supporting and liking the Pope, while conservatives dislike him, it's time to sit up and take notice that maybe there is something wrong with this Pope.

You're just making this up out of thin air because you like the way the words sound.

 

[Lovebug]

I like him as much as the next guy. He's made some good points, and some that are a bit bizarre. I think he's rather full of himself and his influence. Aside from that, don't even get be started on Pope business in general.

 

[Grand Mal]

He's a typically uniformed left wing hack who's made the foolish decision to comment on issues that are beyond his conprehension

He's not a God, no one should worship him or pray to him, he is a Man

Thanks. I love irony.