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Trudeau say Americans should pay more attention to the world

CanadaJohn said:
Justin Trudeau doesn't speak for this proud Canadian and never will. He's a self-indulgent dullard who got elected on the basis of a pleasing face and a famous last name. I can never criticize Americans for electing Barack Obama again after my fellow citizens elected this buffoon to our highest office. He's an embarrassment.
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He's done more in six months in office in healing wounds with the provinces, has launched an investigation into the corrupt RCMP [which is going to reveal decades of racial and sexual abuse, and launched in inquiry into missing women which he tried to bury. Since getting rid of those assholes we now have learned the problem in is the HUNDREDS of thousands...all covered up by the RCMP.

Sorry, but Trudeau did not win on a pretty face. Harper LOST because he was an American Stooge who wanted to re-start all the wars with the provinces, the war on drugs and present an American face to the world.

Harper and his team had become thin skinned boobs who could only offer the Canadian people the idea that Trudeau "wasn't ready". Clearly Harper was beyond his best before date.
 
Fearandloathing said:
He's done more in six months in office in healing wounds with the provinces, has launched an investigation into the corrupt RCMP [which is going to reveal decades of racial and sexual abuse, and launched in inquiry into missing women which he tried to bury. Since getting rid of those assholes we now have learned the problem in is the HUNDREDS of thousands...all covered up by the RCMP.

Sorry, but Trudeau did not win on a pretty face. Harper LOST because he was an American Stooge who wanted to re-start all the wars with the provinces, the war on drugs and present an American face to the world.

Harper and his team had become thin skinned boobs who could only offer the Canadian people the idea that Trudeau "wasn't ready". Clearly Harper was beyond his best before date.
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I'd say if Trudeau pisses off Canadians that wish they were born in a true American patriotic trailer park in Alabama like Grant, CH and Zimmer, he's doing something right.
 
Carjosse said:
I want the focus to be put on Ontario and Quebec, the actual economic heart of Canada.
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Ontario and Quebec haven't been the economic heart of Canada for over a decade - get out of the 1800's and join the world now. And with the Liberals destroying what's left of Ontario, we'll be a basket case for decades more. And Quebec hasn't contributed to the Canadian economy in half a century - all they've done is suck the life out of the rest of Canada.
 
Grand Mal said:
I'm not sold on Trudeau myself. I nearly sat out the election- if I vote, I vote Liberal but I take a pass when I don't like the leader or the election platform. I decided to vote when those Conservative attack ads pissed me off.
And I have doubts of the value of government spending as an economic stimulus, especially when your economy depends on world commodity prices. But facts are facts- the last Liberal government gave us surplus budgets and the Conservatives gave us excuses.
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With Paul Martin as finance minister, holding Chretien's feet to the fire, the Liberals turned around a terrible situation in the mid 1990s - I give Martin great credit for that.

Also, I agree with you on the Conservative campaign - it was terrible and the ads annoyed me as well. But that doesn't mean I'd ever vote for a party led by Justin Trudeau and his dreamworld concepts of the world and Canada's place in it.

Canada, under the Conservatives, was the envy of the world into and following the financial crash of 2007/8. You can slag that, if you want, but there's no denying it.
 
CanadaJohn said:
With Paul Martin as finance minister, holding Chretien's feet to the fire, the Liberals turned around a terrible situation in the mid 1990s - I give Martin great credit for that.

Also, I agree with you on the Conservative campaign - it was terrible and the ads annoyed me as well. But that doesn't mean I'd ever vote for a party led by Justin Trudeau and his dreamworld concepts of the world and Canada's place in it.

Canada, under the Conservatives, was the envy of the world into and following the financial crash of 2007/8. You can slag that, if you want, but there's no denying it.
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Harper was posting a false deficit- Billions unspent? Funding cut- It was slash and burn.
And he was worse than the Liberals, as a former CDS stated, the decade of darkness, the were down to 1.2 % GDP. Harper brought it down to 1 %. Then when provided withclear evidence that injured Veterans were not being treated medically, slashed disability pensions, cut services needed for Vets. All goes back to when in 04 or 05 the projected cost to care for Afghan Vets was around 4-5 Billion - it has since increased in costs - Liberal's and Cons including the NDP voted to change the programs.
 
zimmer said:
I've lived in Ontario (not too far from Ottawa) and BC... and well... I wish Canadians would pay a little more attention to their history and realize what a PoS Pierre Trudeau was... and they just elected more of the same.

Actually, they did well having Harper running the show for so long... but it would have been nice to see the Libs stay as a power no bigger than their Socialist brethren, the NDP.
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Thats rich coming from the man who will probably be solely responsible for reducing Canada's relevance and heft on the world stage. Precisely the relevance and heft that Harper so carefully built up.
 
Fearandloathing said:
I am Canadian.

Stephen Harper at the beginning did a good job of managing the nation's finances. However, he never really did bring the country together and was never a 'good leader'. In the end, he became an American Conservative who re-started the war on drugs, who used American lawmaking techniques in omnibus bills to change the nature of the country. He cut back spending even after we had a solid surplus for several years [that surplus was handed to him by the Liberals] and it hurt a lot of people.

He alienated our native population refusing to strike an investigation into thousands of native women who have gone missing. He ruled with a hard hand, allowed the RCMP to cover up rape and systemic sexual abuse within it ranks. Harper deliberately started a fight with the marijuana industry by trying to license only his friends as producers, and spent millions unnecessarily fighting it in court and loosing.

Harper rolled back and made toothless various organizations about women's rights, status of natives and he went to war against the single most successful addiction fighting tool, the Insight, the free injection site...and again lost in the Supreme court. He decided it would be a cool thing to strip people of their citizenship.....illegal under our international obligations and completely contrary to Canada's historical role of asylum for those who deserve. The feeling across the nation is that we should strip Harper of HIS citizenship.

None of that is Canadian.

Harper has become a swear word, members of the Conservative Party of Canada are keeping silent, they don't want to be spit on.

So, thank you for your outside advice, but please get this into your head: Canadians are different than Americans AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY.


Now, your opinion of Trudeau as a piece of **** you might want to call back. He was a very strong personality, and yes unpopular at times, but brought more reforms to this country than and seven previous prime ministers. And what you don't know, he keep the country together without war...something the US could not do. He also fostered in the most amazing constitution and world recognized Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

So be careful about expressing your UNIFORMED opinions.


BTW, I agree, Canadians should pay more attention to the world. The comment comes from all the little American wannabes we have who are cowering in fear of Syrian refugees. He's being more kind to them than I. I say if you want a government like America, go to America and shut the **** up.
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wow...outstanding post!
 
fmw said:
"Trudeau say Americans should pay more attention to the world"

Americans say Trudeau should pay more attention to his own business.
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Then Americans should stop shoving their noses into other countries' business.
 
If Canada is so concerned about people suffering, why don't they take in another 290 million people?
Then their population will be the same as ours, and they'll be so full of liberal regret like we are.
 
Rather typical attitude by a Canadian isn't it? Thinking that Americans are stupid regarding international affairs or that they are dumber than Canadians. Another hateful stereotype.
 
reinoe said:
If the world's not whining about how Americans are constantly sticking their noses in other people's business, they're whining about how the U.S. isn't solving all the problems of the world. I don't know who Trudeau is but he sounds like a piece of ****.
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We don't agree on many things, but you are spot on. STFU and pay attention to your own problems. We got this.
 
CanadaJohn said:
In my view, there isn't a country in the world who thinks and contributes more to the welfare and wellbeing of the world than the United States and our Prime Minister would do well to get off his arrogant ass and actually do something meaningful in his life before he starts lecturing other people, better than he, about what they should or shouldn't do.
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This.
 
Eric7216 said:
Rather typical attitude by a Canadian isn't it? Thinking that Americans are stupid regarding international affairs or that they are dumber than Canadians. Another hateful stereotype.
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Thanks, I love irony.
 
CanadaJohn said:
In my view, there isn't a country in the world who thinks and contributes more to the welfare and wellbeing of the world than the United States and our Prime Minister would do well to get off his arrogant ass and actually do something meaningful in his life before he starts lecturing other people, better than he, about what they should or shouldn't do.
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C'mon, be fair. He was a bitchin' snowboard instructor.
 
Trudeau has taken Canada from the highly respected and weighty military and political power that the Harper government built, into a power that has utterly retreated from its contribution to the Allied fight against ISIS. He is the absolute worst kind of 'progressive' politician: condescending, an emphasis on style over substance, and the portrayal of pacific cowardice as wisdom that us brutish warmongers don't understand. For the duration of the Trudeau administration the United States, France, and the UK have essentially lost an ally since Canada can no longer be reliably called upon to support our numerous joint missions.

It's very disappointing.
 
CanadaJohn said:
I see you enjoy fiction.
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meh, maybe *shrug*

the older I get the more I am willing to lean either way with no hesitation at all depending upon the circumstance

over the years I have voted for all three parties...there are the good, the bad, and the ugly in all three

Partisanship is killing us...people are greedy and selfish and wtf use does that do anyone?

the older I get the more left I lean socially...I was in the business world for years and I was a damn good boss. I understand people and how to motivate them, how to make them loyal and how to make them produce...yay for the company and they paid me well


I see both sides and now I work public sector and all of those people who didn't bother to go to school and get an education have a pension and I don't because my company folded....luckily for me, I am a damn good investor

point is you can be a tightie rightie all you want...hell my guy is, but you won't live one second longer and you won't be one second happier than if you fed some kid or brought some sick animal home that cost you a crap load in vet bills

in fact I think a lot of the time they are filled with fear and obsessed with getting what they deserve

it's only money and in the end it means ZERO

screw it

share it regardless of who made it, no one is getting out of this life alive

just go internal...find your bliss and follow it...I'm not kidding....share, love, play, work, help....screw it

happy Trudeau daze... who the f cares, it won't make one shred of difference to my pay cheque

life is fickle and stuff happens...enjoy the moment and share what you have

there is no tomorrow

cheers
 
Sherman123 said:
Trudeau has taken Canada from the highly respected and weighty military and political power that the Harper government built, into a power that has utterly retreated from its contribution to the Allied fight against ISIS. He is the absolute worst kind of 'progressive' politician: condescending, an emphasis on style over substance, and the portrayal of pacific cowardice as wisdom that us brutish warmongers don't understand. For the duration of the Trudeau administration the United States, France, and the UK have essentially lost an ally since Canada can no longer be reliably called upon to support our numerous joint missions.

It's very disappointing.
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It is almost a law of political physics. "Canadian criticism of US defense policy is inversely proportional to Canada's contribution to the common defense of the West."
 
Jack Hays said:
It is almost a law of political physics. "Canadian criticism of US defense policy is inversely proportional to Canada's contribution to the common defense of the West."
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That sounds like Germany.
 
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