How did These Idiots End up Electing Our Next President?

[haymarket]

You don't really want me to post quotes from you haymarket.

My hats off to you as you try to suggest you've been forthright and magnanimous in your comments regarding those who voted for Trump.

Someone came up with a phrase for such efforts long ago.

A day late, and a dollar short.....

So in addition to some good and decent Americans who voted for Trump do you also agree that there were idiots and racists and bigots who voted for him also?

 

[haymarket]

Didn't miss a thing.

A poor excuse for a candidate, and truthfully, a poor excuse for a party rigging a nomination against its own constituents, picking a known criminal which would put her known sexual molesting husband back in the People's house... and you want to rant on about the guy who we, the People who own that house, chose to lead us? After 8 long years in the wilderness where there was constant denigration of America, a hollowing out of our military making the whole world less safe in tandem with a disastrous foreign policy, not to mention those trying to make social deviance the norm.

We had had enough... and now our side dominates the entire politic landscape. Dog catcher right on up to the top guy.

You brought this on yourselves, many of us here, and elsewhere, tried to warn your side from pushing too hard. When it hit its tipping point, wow it rolled over fast. Now its time to roll it back, roll it up, take it to the nearest landfill.

By the way , we have had plenty of strong, vibrant and vocal personalities in the WH Considered the first Democrat, Andrew Jackson, Republican Teddy Roosevelt another. Too bad your side has sidelined itself, now so thoroughly distrusted by the American public for the rigging of the nomination, for the collusion with a corrupt and now no longer credible media. That and such things as the hypocrisy of making fun of Trump for not agreeing to recognize the election result and now, still, your side like little cry babies throwing a tantrum... as if that will get the election overturned.

Adults, mature folk are at the helm now. Listen, we on this side just suffered through the worst 8 years, rivaling any of poor leadership and cultural destruction, in our history. You better get used to Trump, he will probably be there 8 years. He isn't even in yet.

As an aside, I just knew I should have invested in rubber. The amount needed for rubber rooms on both coasts over the next 8 years would turn a small investment into a rich man of me. Truthfully man, you need to chill, let Trump work his wonders, and since your side's voice is now so small, pick and choose the proper battles... the incessant crying of wolf wolf all the time is already being ignored.

I wonder why then 2.8 million more Americans voted for this person than voted for your choice of Trump and did not simply allow you or others who share your views to decide for them?

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

So there were no idiots that voted for Trump?

So there were no racists that voted for Trump?

So there were no bigots that voted for Trump?

We know for a fact that certain Klan members openly supported Trump so we know the reality that racists and bigots did vote Trump.

As far as idiots - you should see the insanity my next door neighbor posts each day and she would have kissed Trumps fat behind had he knocked on her door and then told him he smelled wonderfully. Just today when tweets this stuff about the Russians doing nothing but Clinton and the DNC hacked themselves and released the info to wikileaks just so they could blame Trump. So idiots voting for Trump --- yeah - there was that too.

There also were NON IDIOTS - NON RACISTS - NON BIGOTS and just plain average decent American who voted for Trump as well. Lots of them.

What you are going to need to do is start reevaluating what you have gotten used to so causually labeling as idiots, racists, bigots. The American people, who are generally none of those, was forever in fear of the left calling them one, if not many, of those.

You see, those vile words/names, over/misused, welded so indiscriminately, like blunt objects, to wound anyone/everyone not agreeing with some strict mindless mindset of the left... this tactic no longer has weight or value. Sure there are some of those in every group, not the many as your side have for so long made it seem.

We have been justly inoculated.

 

[haymarket]

What you are going to need to do is start reevaluating what you have gotten used to so causually labeling as idiots, racists, bigots. The American people, who are generally none of those, was forever in fear of the left calling them one, if not many, of those.

You see, those vile words/names, over/misused, welded so indiscriminately, like blunt objects, to wound anyone/everyone not agreeing with some strict mindless mindset of the left... this tactic no longer has weight or value. Sure there are some of those in every group, not the many as your side have for so long made it seem.

We have been justly inoculated.

So those Klan folks who came out for Trump - they were not racists or bigots?

 

[ocean515]

So in addition to some good and decent Americans who voted for Trump do you also agree that there were idiots and racists and bigots who voted for him also?

Some?

I have never denied there are idiots and racists who voted for President Elect Trump. Not ever. These few thousand people have a right to their convictions, no matter how offensive I find them.

But some? There are some good and decent Americans who voted for Trump?

By your own words here, you continue to demonstrate you believe idiots and racists make up the majority of the people who voted for Trump.

Clearly there are idiots, racists, and bigots, who voted for Hillary.

 

[eohrnberger]

Oh poor little snowflakes.
. . . .
Suck it up, buttercup

Condescending insults and sinde remarks may make you feel superior - but they are NOT discussing the issues of the day. Nor does using them contribute to advancing our nation and the American people.

"Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

I wonder why then 2.8 million more Americans voted for this person than voted for your choice of Trump and did not simply allow you or others who share your views to decide for them?

Well, first of all there is plenty of idiocy on your side, that is one reason [ see above about nominantion rigging, poor candidate choice, etc...], secondly there is a question, yet resolved to satisfaction of some, whether illegals and the more normal regular deceased democrats being allowed the vote [ illegals especially after the door was opened by O bomb a that nobody would check ], persuasion and demonizing [ demonstrated right here on site by all those, ostensibly more knowledgeable on politics, making Trump out to be almost the next Hitler] by the MSM in the tank for your candidate. And, of course, even the possibility of more subtle, more technical subversion by, for example, a google search engine algorithm....which all singly, and even more together, could more than make up those millions of which you speak.

Harvard PhD Explains How Google Search Bias Could "Shift 3 Million Votes" In Upcoming Election | Zero Hedge

 

[Moderate Right]

With every passing day I am rethinking my whole idea about religion and God. For if God does not help us over the next four years - we can all kiss our collective asses good-bye as we have absolutely crossed the line and now are in a political Twilight Zone where an absolute idiot is taking over on January 20th . We have had our share of idiots before. But never an egomaniacal authoritarian idiot with a large following of greater idiots who excuse any behavior, any statement and any action he vomits up before the public.

God help us because there seems little other avenue of salvation for the USA.

I'm glad you are beginning to see the light because my faith greatly increased when Hillary lost. I not only had huge concerns about my business staying afloat under Hillary but realized that there is indeed a God after all and if the left fails to see the connection then that is their loss and will continue to be their loss election after election. Abortion and Planned Partenthood will take some hits (God does not like the killing of fetuses) and the irony of Hillary not only rigging the primaries against Bernie but then rigging the general in at least Detroit and then claiming that she lost because Comey or Russia rigged the election is absolutely priceless!

 

[ocean515]

"Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left.

Agreed. One can disagree. One can disagree aggressively. But "racists, misogynistic, xenophobic, etc., etc.", leveled by a Presidential candidate against 10's of millions of voters, and echoed by her supporters, are all designed to eliminate and destroy.

That's not debate or disagreement, that pure insult and calling for hatred and elimination.

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

So those Klan folks who came out for Trump - they were not racists or bigots?

As ocean so aptly stated above, neither you nor I get to disenfranchise anybody meeting the standards to legally vote.

We fought for years as a country to make sure of this.

Now, even if ALL of the KKK nationwide voted for Trump... and you cannot credibly accuse Trump of courting this small number of votes, it would lose him [ if he were to be so stupid ] more in the opposite direction than would be gained. Look, according to, and I do not like these guys at all as the practice bias and discrimination but are probably somewhat accurate if not overestimating, the Southern Poverty Law Center

"Today, the Center estimates that there are between 5,000 and 8,000 Klan members, split among dozens of different - and often warring - organizations that use the Klan name."

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

So, please take your time, not too too much more please as we have work to do, and get over yourselves. For the nation's sake.

 

[Moderate Right]

It's depressing. I have the sense that before the Internet when people typically rather than atypically read newspapers and magazines, even books of all things, American society wasn't this loony.
But I'm probably wrong.

That is probably the smartest thing I have ever seen you post. Just as long as you know the tree has branches on both sides.

 

[Moderate Right]

I wonder why then 2.8 million more Americans voted for this person than voted for your choice of Trump and did not simply allow you or others who share your views to decide for them?

The fact is Trump wanted to win so he went for the electoral college instead of the popular vote. If you won the presidency by the popular vote he would have campaigned for the popular vote.

 

[Moderate Right]

What you are going to need to do is start reevaluating what you have gotten used to so causually labeling as idiots, racists, bigots. The American people, who are generally none of those, was forever in fear of the left calling them one, if not many, of those.

You see, those vile words/names, over/misused, welded so indiscriminately, like blunt objects, to wound anyone/everyone not agreeing with some strict mindless mindset of the left... this tactic no longer has weight or value. Sure there are some of those in every group, not the many as your side have for so long made it seem.

We have been justly inoculated.

Amen. If the left wants to win any more elections they are going to have to realize they can't call 62 million voters racists, bigots, and deplorables.

 

[Moderate Right]

Agreed. One can disagree. One can disagree aggressively. But "racists, misogynistic, xenophobic, etc., etc.", leveled by a Presidential candidate against 10's of millions of voters, and echoed by her supporters, are all designed to eliminate and destroy.

That's not debate or disagreement, that pure insult and calling for hatred and elimination.

Yep. It's kind of funny actually. If you don't vote for the lying, dishonest crook who rigs elections then you are a racist, bigot, or deplorable.

 

[Paperview]

He speaks their language. Moronese

:lamo

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Amen. If the left wants to win any more elections they are going to have to realize they can't call 62 million voters racists, bigots, and deplorables.

Yes, and I agree with eohrnberger that our parry of their name calling is so mild, yet mature. Its like a milder version of the Civil Rights movement with nonviolence in the face of violence.

As he well stated, "Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left."

I am unable to be that disciplined. I would have been more aligned with the early Malcolm X vein of protest. I think most of the true bigots, racists and sexists are from the left, and they need, not indiscriminately like they have but targeted and only when warranted, to be called on their ongoing bigotry against entire groups of people like they do constantly.

Bigotry big·ot·ry noun intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

 

[Moderate Right]

Yes, and I agree with eohrnberger that our parry of their name calling is so mild, yet mature. Its like a milder version of the Civil Rights movement with nonviolence in the face of violence.

As he well stated, "Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left."

I am unable to be that disciplined. I would have been more aligned with the early Malcolm X vein of protest. I think most of the true bigots, racists and sexists are from the left, and they need, not indiscriminately like they have but targeted and only when warranted, to be called on their ongoing bigotry against entire groups of people like they do constantly.

Bigotry big·ot·ry noun intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Another post of mine said, "If you don't vote for the lying, dishonest crook who rigs elections then you are a racist, bigot, or deplorable."

 

[Gaugingcatenate]

Another post of mine said, "If you don't vote for the lying, dishonest crook who rigs elections then you are a racist, bigot, or deplorable."

So true, proven true.

The good thing is the left is currently so marginalized. We need to act accordingly, listen to them but call them on EVERYTHING that is out of line. If they are a bigot, a true bigot, that needs be identified. Same with racist... the freedom with which they have grown accustomed to calling anything, any idea, any deed, any disagreement by white people as a dog whistle for white supremacy, for instance, is an undeniable set of racist beliefs. We heard it constantly, if we were justifiably against O bomb a and a socialist social engineering agenda... it was because we were racists. Now that kind of thought on their part is genuinely deplorable.

The shoe is now on the other foot, but we need not stomp indiscriminately... pick out the dirty cockroaches...step on them hard, damned hard. The left, like Islamic extremists, only understand strength and force it seems. Reason, hell I have tried it here so damn much without but an inch of progress, means nothing to them.

They are blinded by their left religiosity.

 

[Moderate Right]

So true, proven true.

The good thing is the left is currently so marginalized. We need to act accordingly, listen to them but call them on EVERYTHING that is out of line. If they are a bigot, a true bigot, that needs be identified. Same with racist... the freedom with which they have grown accustomed to calling anything, any idea, any deed, any disagreement by white people as a dog whistle for white supremacy, for instance, is an undeniable set of racist beliefs. We heard it constantly, if we were justifiably against O bomb a and a socialist social engineering agenda... it was because we were racists. Now that kind of thought on their part is genuinely deplorable.

The shoe is now on the other foot, but we need not stomp indiscriminately... pick out the dirty cockroaches...step on them hard, damned hard. The left, like Islamic extremists, only understand strength and force it seems. Reason, hell I have tried it here so damn much without but an inch of progress, means nothing to them.

They are blinded by their left religiosity.

Again, so true. The left criticizes the right for trying to cram their high moral values down everyone's throat while at the same time the left tries to cram their own values down everyone's throat. Hypocrisy at it's finest. And again you are right that the right needs to tread carefully down that same road or the tables will turn all over again. I'm stuck in the middle as both sides never really learn that lesson and power just keeps on flip flopping every so many years. Hence, the result is gridlock and obstructionism.

 

[haymarket]

Some?

I have never denied there are idiots and racists who voted for President Elect Trump. Not ever. These few thousand people have a right to their convictions, no matter how offensive I find them.

But some? There are some good and decent Americans who voted for Trump?

By your own words here, you continue to demonstrate you believe idiots and racists make up the majority of the people who voted for Trump.

Clearly there are idiots, racists, and bigots, who voted for Hillary.

Does it make you happy to engage in blatant dishonesty and use the word MAJORITY when I never said that?

 

[haymarket]

"Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left.

Why then does the right not purge themselves of such people if they do not want to be tarred with that brush?

And you get the double bonus of using the word SUCK (hint hint at the implications of that which are better left unsaid) and buttercup (an obvious smear at ones masculinity) at the same time.

WOW!!! But you are indeed clever. :roll:

 

[haymarket]

Well, first of all there is plenty of idiocy on your side, that is one reason [ see above about nominantion rigging, poor candidate choice, etc...], secondly there is a question, yet resolved to satisfaction of some, whether illegals and the more normal regular deceased democrats being allowed the vote [ illegals especially after the door was opened by O bomb a that nobody would check ], persuasion and demonizing [ demonstrated right here on site by all those, ostensibly more knowledgeable on politics, making Trump out to be almost the next Hitler] by the MSM in the tank for your candidate. And, of course, even the possibility of more subtle, more technical subversion by, for example, a google search engine algorithm....which all singly, and even more together, could more than make up those millions of which you speak.

Harvard PhD Explains How Google Search Bias Could "Shift 3 Million Votes" In Upcoming Election | Zero Hedge

Should that kind of stuff be in the Conspiracy section?

 

[haymarket]

I'm glad you are beginning to see the light because my faith greatly increased when Hillary lost. I not only had huge concerns about my business staying afloat under Hillary but realized that there is indeed a God after all and if the left fails to see the connection then that is their loss and will continue to be their loss election after election. Abortion and Planned Partenthood will take some hits (God does not like the killing of fetuses) and the irony of Hillary not only rigging the primaries against Bernie but then rigging the general in at least Detroit and then claiming that she lost because Comey or Russia rigged the election is absolutely priceless!

There are none so blind as they who will not see.

 

[Tigerace117]

Yes, and I agree with eohrnberger that our parry of their name calling is so mild, yet mature. Its like a milder version of the Civil Rights movement with nonviolence in the face of violence.

As he well stated, "Suck it up buttercup" is still allot less insulting, antagonistic excoriating or personally damaging, than falsely and unfoundedly accusing someone racist, sexist, bigot, homophobe, islamophobe, deplorable, etc, etc., which is the typical tactic of the left."

I am unable to be that disciplined. I would have been more aligned with the early Malcolm X vein of protest. I think most of the true bigots, racists and sexists are from the left, and they need, not indiscriminately like they have but targeted and only when warranted, to be called on their ongoing bigotry against entire groups of people like they do constantly.

Bigotry big·ot·ry noun intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself.

Are you seriously trying to compare yourselves to the Civil Rights movement?

Really?

Jesus ****ing Christ.

I'm too disgusted to say anything else right now.

 

[haymarket]

As ocean so aptly stated above, neither you nor I get to disenfranchise anybody meeting the standards to legally vote.

We fought for years as a country to make sure of this.

Now, even if ALL of the KKK nationwide voted for Trump... and you cannot credibly accuse Trump of courting this small number of votes, it would lose him [ if he were to be so stupid ] more in the opposite direction than would be gained. Look, according to, and I do not like these guys at all as the practice bias and discrimination but are probably somewhat accurate if not overestimating, the Southern Poverty Law Center

"Today, the Center estimates that there are between 5,000 and 8,000 Klan members, split among dozens of different - and often warring - organizations that use the Klan name."

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/ku-klux-klan

So, please take your time, not too too much more please as we have work to do, and get over yourselves. For the nation's sake.

I NEVER said a Klansman should not be able to vote. So what are you ranting about anyways?