I used to do the Philadelphia to DC trip on a Honda 175, a long time back. I got pretty used to the Holland Tunnel. The exhaust was pretty bad on a m/c. Then there was one time that one tube was closed for maintenance, two way traffic in one tube was way worse than the old 301 Potomac bridge!
Paywalled for me. Would have liked to read it.These do work
How Fenders Might Have Protected Against Bridge Collapse
The Francis Scott Key Bridge did not have an obvious fender system, or protective barriers, to redirect or prevent a ship from crashing into the bridge piers.www.nytimes.com
Google bridge fenders
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They do help, the reason why they are installed. Yes on older bridges as wellHere’s an article explaining why the Francis Scott Key didn’t.
They’re required on newer bridges.
And earlier in either this (or the other thread on this incident), I posted where the decision was made sometime after a 1980 bridge collapse NOT to add them to the Francis Scott Key because of cost.
They may have helped. They may not have. And newer bridges will have fender and dolphins AND be designed with these gigantic ships in mind.
Unless you have Time Machine, it’s hard to blame people in the 70’s for this. And hard to blame people who decided not to add fenders, bumpers, etc after when they didn’t have the money TO do so.
This is a tragic situation. Lots of lessons will be learned and hopefully applied. (But pardon me for expecting it to completely be forgotten about by most people in general by the end of the week)
Baltimore's Key Bridge may have lacked collision protective measures for modern cargo ships: Experts
Baltimore’s Francis Scott Key Bridge partially collapsed early Tuesday morning after a massive cargo ship collided with one of the bridge's support columns.
Ok, and?
Actually, the new Nice Bridge has been open since Oct 2022. Wholly owned by MD since the border is actually the south bank of the Potomac. Interesting that there is no toll to enter MD, only to escape.
I keep thinking this headline should be "Port of Baltimore closed due to collapsed bridge".A 2.6 km long bridge in Baltimore, Maryland (Francis Scott Key Bridge) is said to have collapsed after a ship ran into it during the night, local time. Witnesses state on social media that "many cars and people are in the water". Pictures from the scene show how the entire bridge plunges into the water.
The slide happened "after a cargo ship collided with the bridge", writes the Fox Baltimore news site. Traffic management "states that all lanes are closed in both directions. Traffic is being diverted," reports Fox further.
BREAKING NEWS: Key Bridge Collapsed
The Key Bridge has collapsed into the water after a cargo ship collided with it.MDTA says all lanes are closed both directions . Traffic is being detoured.foxbaltimore.com
We need an infrastructure decade, followed by yearly infrastructure months where we make sure all of the stuff is working right and plan upgrades if needed.
Here’s one with more details.NEWS FLASH
The ship " had suffered from a severe electrical problem for days before it lost power during its ill-fated trip out of the.."
"the massive container ship had sat in the port for two days suffering from “total power failure, loss of engine power, everything.”
That damn ship was having electrical problems for two days before the event while at it was docked at its berth in the harbor.
This changes everything. This was not a sudden surprise. Apparently, they thought it was fixed? This will be a major part of the investigation.
Ship Had Electrical Issues Days Before Baltimore Bridge Collision: Report
“They were having serious power outages,” one port worker told CNN.www.thedailybeast.com
( For anyone who doesn't trust DB, I heard the same on CBS, original source was CNN)
maritime-executive.com
Amen. We also need to not divide neighborhoods by interstate highways that destroy neighborhoods, school districts, hospitals, parks, cultural venues, public transit and shopping areas which leads to food deserts.
I mean...that kinda already happened?
Neighborhoods have been divided by race and redeveloped by state and city planners to the detriment of racial and ethnic groups, urban sprawl, leading to the lack of affordable housing. They usually bypass middle and upper income areas.
Do you not understand that after past bridge hits these fenders were then installed
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I understand that just fine.Do you not understand that after past bridge hits these fenders were then installed
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Did, I say that they should have been
@BirdinHand this one pls
Going forward we better do it to all bridges or terrorists will repeat the tragedy, but on purpose.
The port wasn't closed when I starten the thread.
Time flies! I have lived just the other side, in VA for about 35 years. Then there were booths in both directions and as a cost saving measure, MD closed the south bound booths and doubled the toll. I used to crow that VA was worth paying to get into more than MD.