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You don’t know how bad it is

Jetboogieman

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Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.
 
Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

Stay safe Jet.
 
Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

So what did you see, Jet?
 
Prayers and positive thoughts for all.

We got this!
 
Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

Not to be facetious, but in all honesty I have no idea what it is that you are talking about.

You mention a "sobering experience" that you can't speak about. Then go off on a tangent about some economic issue you also don't define. Then speak vaguely about a medical issue/incident you lack expertise in. (I assume having to do with the current viral outbreak).

Finally, asserting no desire to be "sensationalist," or "scaremongering," you still don't explain what exactly you are so concerned about.

I have great respect for you, but I have to say I really have no idea what it is you are trying to say...other than "be scared of something."

Could you please explain what exactly it is that you are so concerned about?
 
Sounds like fear mongering to the max.
 
Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

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Governor DeWine (R) and Ohio Department of Health say they now know that at the very least 100,000 people in just Ohio (1% of population) are carrying coronavirus. Apparently, due to not sufficient testing (thanks Trump!) they can't give exact numbers but even so, they are able to say this.

Cases are expected to double every 6 days.

I don't know if Ohio is special somehow - in fact, they are not especially densely populated, but if 1% applies to all of the USA, we are talking about 3.2 million cases in the USA NOW?!

P.S. They must be part of Deep State
 
Re: You don’t know how bad it is

Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

Cases in U.S. | CDC

Cumulative total number of COVID-19 cases in the United States by report date
March 11, the most recent update before you posted that: 1215 cumulative cases.
March 25, two weeks later: 68,440 cumulative cases, a 56x increase in two weeks.
April 8, two more weeks later: 427,460 cumulative cases, a 352x increase in four weeks.

You weren't kidding, Jet. :(
 
Not to be facetious, but in all honesty I have no idea what it is that you are talking about.

You mention a "sobering experience" that you can't speak about. Then go off on a tangent about some economic issue you also don't define. Then speak vaguely about a medical issue/incident you lack expertise in. (I assume having to do with the current viral outbreak).

Finally, asserting no desire to be "sensationalist," or "scaremongering," you still don't explain what exactly you are so concerned about.

I have great respect for you, but I have to say I really have no idea what it is you are trying to say...other than "be scared of something."

Could you please explain what exactly it is that you are so concerned about?

To understand that OP required empathy. For some people, this simple request is too much :shrug:
 
Ok.

I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.

I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.

If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.

If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.

Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.

I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.

Well, what was so shocking that all of us haven't witnessed, yet?

Spit it out, man!
 
Ok.
I can’t be too specific here and you can call it anecdotal if you want, but I’m not here to play politics tonight.
I had an extremely sobering experience today the likes of which I have never had in my life, I actually have tears in my eyes writing this.
If you had seen and heard what I have over the past 12 hours you would freak the **** out and I’m largely speaking economically here, I can tell you that I don’t watch cable news but the written media which I do read constantly, if you think they’re being sensationalist, I can tell you they’re barely scratching the surface of what’s happening on the ground, they’re so focused on the stock market that everyone is missing what is happening at the ground level in the economy.
If I’m having the conversations I’m having, everyone up and down the economy in almost every sector are having similar ones and the ripple effects of what is about to happen I’m telling you, it is going to be catastrophic, so catastrophic that no single government can contain how bad this is going to get, even if weather plays a role the fact is that we may still have months ahead of us of this thing and in that time the damage will be enormous.
Today has shocked me to my core like you wouldn’t believe and medically look, I’m not an expert but with some of the stories we are hearing and seeing, the numbers in the next couple of weeks may very well explode in North America, both Canada and the United States.
I tell you this not to be sensationalist, I tell you this not to be scaremongering, I tell you this not to “Get Trump”, I tell you this because what I heard and saw today was so shocking I had to say something that if even one of you are more prepared for what’s coming than I’ve done something positive because I want to be wrong, I wanna laugh about this in a years time at this post and think how silly I was, but I won’t soon forget what happened today and how worried I am for the well being of my family in a way I’ve never felt before.

Remember, I want to be wrong.


Chances are pretty good you are.
 
Well, what was so shocking that all of us haven't witnessed, yet?

Spit it out, man!

You gotta remember I wrote that almost a month ago, before the **** truly hit the fan.

So I was in a different section at my company, which is travel related, the day this happened, I was suddenly due to what was happening put onto the line with the customers and as soon as I saw the scale of the problem and the amount of money we were losing, I just, I could not even process it, I actually kind of had to write that to cope with what I was seeing and the kind of conversations I was having, it was actually somewhat traumatizing.

I'm not ashamed to say I drove home in complete silence, I got home and I just... Broke, I cried uncontrollably, because you know like, I don't like to claim I'm good at anything, but I think I do understand a situation beyond just whats immediate, I knew looking at what I was dealing with that if we were losing that kind of money and dealing with a problem of this scale, that the rest of the economy was ****ing toast, I understood the gravity of the situation in that moment and it just, shook me to my core.

Chances are pretty good you are.

"I saw something nasty in the woodshed." - Cold Comfort Farm

Barnacle, what in gods name at this point, would make you think, chances are I'm wrong?

Come over here, let me show you something:

 
Its not that bad. Maybe you should take a nap.
 
You gotta remember I wrote that almost a month ago, before the **** truly hit the fan.

So I was in a different section at my company, which is travel related, the day this happened, I was suddenly due to what was happening put onto the line with the customers and as soon as I saw the scale of the problem and the amount of money we were losing, I just, I could not even process it, I actually kind of had to write that to cope with what I was seeing and the kind of conversations I was having, it was actually somewhat traumatizing.

I'm not ashamed to say I drove home in complete silence, I got home and I just... Broke, I cried uncontrollably, because you know like, I don't like to claim I'm good at anything, but I think I do understand a situation beyond just whats immediate, I knew looking at what I was dealing with that if we were losing that kind of money and dealing with a problem of this scale, that the rest of the economy was ****ing toast, I understood the gravity of the situation in that moment and it just, shook me to my core.





Barnacle, what in gods name at this point, would make you think, chances are I'm wrong?

Come over here, let me show you something:



If I may be blunt. Please get to the point.
 
You gotta remember I wrote that almost a month ago, before the **** truly hit the fan.

So I was in a different section at my company, which is travel related, the day this happened, I was suddenly due to what was happening put onto the line with the customers and as soon as I saw the scale of the problem and the amount of money we were losing, I just, I could not even process it, I actually kind of had to write that to cope with what I was seeing and the kind of conversations I was having, it was actually somewhat traumatizing.

I'm not ashamed to say I drove home in complete silence, I got home and I just... Broke, I cried uncontrollably, because you know like, I don't like to claim I'm good at anything, but I think I do understand a situation beyond just whats immediate, I knew looking at what I was dealing with that if we were losing that kind of money and dealing with a problem of this scale, that the rest of the economy was ****ing toast, I understood the gravity of the situation in that moment and it just, shook me to my core.





Barnacle, what in gods name at this point, would make you think, chances are I'm wrong?

Come over here, let me show you something:



No idea what you are talking about, clearly you are shook about something,

But to expect this not to affect the economy is wishful thinking, but to think that it's going to keep down the economy is fear mongering to me.

There isn't one industry that has not been affected by this....healthcare had to change the way they do things, etc......but there is also not one industry that can't come back from this.....

Take a company like Tyson Foods....let's say for ****s n giggles they have 50,000 employees before this all hit, but now, they let 20K go....and are operating at 50%......so yes, 20K employees hit unemployment, a hit to the economy, but when this blows through, and it will, does anyone think Tyson food is going to remain at 50%, no, they are going to go on a hiring spree, they will need people to work, and may hire more than 20K, who knows.

Point is, all the jobs that have stopped, will be coming back.....
 
Its not that bad. Maybe you should take a nap.

Seventeen million unemployment claims in three weeks?? "It's not that bad"????? That is a ridiculous claim, utterly ridiculous. Right now unemployment in America is highest since the Great Depression and it happened in the blink of an eye!

Instead of telling others to "take a nap", perhaps you should consider waking up from yours.
 
Prayers and positive thoughts for all.

We got this!

No country " Got this". None, the ramifications of C19 have barely begun
 
Seventeen million unemployment claims in three weeks?? "It's not that bad"????? That is a ridiculous claim, utterly ridiculous. Right now unemployment in America is highest since the Great Depression and it happened in the blink of an eye!

Instead of telling others to "take a nap", perhaps you should consider waking up from yours.

What do you think happens when this blows over? Those 17 million jobs are poof, gone, never to return?
 
You gotta remember I wrote that almost a month ago, before the **** truly hit the fan.

So I was in a different section at my company, which is travel related, the day this happened, I was suddenly due to what was happening put onto the line with the customers and as soon as I saw the scale of the problem and the amount of money we were losing, I just, I could not even process it, I actually kind of had to write that to cope with what I was seeing and the kind of conversations I was having, it was actually somewhat traumatizing.

I'm not ashamed to say I drove home in complete silence, I got home and I just... Broke, I cried uncontrollably, because you know like, I don't like to claim I'm good at anything, but I think I do understand a situation beyond just whats immediate, I knew looking at what I was dealing with that if we were losing that kind of money and dealing with a problem of this scale, that the rest of the economy was ****ing toast, I understood the gravity of the situation in that moment and it just, shook me to my core.





Barnacle, what in gods name at this point, would make you think, chances are I'm wrong?

Come over here, let me show you something:



Unbelievable. Anyone who cannot comprehend the starkness of that graphic is someone who didn't bother to spend 29 seconds of their life to watch it.
 
Not to be facetious, but in all honesty I have no idea what it is that you are talking about.

You mention a "sobering experience" that you can't speak about. Then go off on a tangent about some economic issue you also don't define. Then speak vaguely about a medical issue/incident you lack expertise in. (I assume having to do with the current viral outbreak).

Finally, asserting no desire to be "sensationalist," or "scaremongering," you still don't explain what exactly you are so concerned about.

I have great respect for you, but I have to say I really have no idea what it is you are trying to say...other than "be scared of something."

Could you please explain what exactly it is that you are so concerned about?

You missed it
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