Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

[AncientGeek]

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

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NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.

Nazi party does stand for national socialist. Don't conflate it with Fascism: an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Hoping that after this week's blizzard the socialist snowplows will clear the socialist streets so the kids can make it to socialist schools.

 

[Glitch]

Fascism is a far right ideology, and all the cultists in the world claiming otherwise not only will not change that it just verified that tbey are easily deceived...

Fascism was created by Benito Mussolini when he created the National Fascist Party of Italy in 1922. Mussolini was a left-wing socialist, even receiving a letter of praise from Lenin for his socialist fascist views. You have been indoctrinated by the left into believing lies.

 

[Glitch]

Nazi party does stand for national socialist. Don't conflate it with Fascism: an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Hoping that after this week's blizzard the socialist snowplows will clear the socialist streets so the kids can make it to socialist schools.

National socialism and national fascism are leftist ideologies, and "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" translates to "National Socialist German Workers' Party." I don't know where you are getting your education, but it is clearly lacking.

Benito Mussolini, a well-known left-wing socialist, was responsible for creating fascism when he created his National Fascist Party of Italy in 1922. You are aware that "fascism" comes from the latin term "Fasces," right?

There is absolutely nothing about the German National Socialists or the American National Socialists that makes anyone think they are even remotely right-wing. Only the lies by the left try to hide the fact that they are solely responsible for more than 100 million deaths in the last century alone.

 

[Thingfish]

Nazi party does stand for national socialist. Don't conflate it with Fascism: an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.

Hoping that after this week's blizzard the socialist snowplows will clear the socialist streets so the kids can make it to socialist schools.

Yes, I’m sure the capitalistic plow owners will work overtime to plow the roads that were paved by a capitalistic road construction company so the kids can get to school and learn about capitalism and what it means to work hard so one day they can makes lots of money and donate to charity’s and pay taxes like a good American.

 

[AncientGeek]

National socialism and national fascism are leftist ideologies, and "Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei" translates to "National Socialist German Workers' Party." I don't know where you are getting your education, but it is clearly lacking.

Benito Mussolini, a well-known left-wing socialist, was responsible for creating fascism when he created his National Fascist Party of Italy in 1922. You are aware that "fascism" comes from the latin term "Fasces," right?

Fasces: The fasces had its origin in the Etruscan civilization, and was passed on to ancient Rome, where it symbolized a magistrate's power and jurisdiction. The image has survived in the modern world as a representation of magisterial or collective power.

There is absolutely nothing about the German National Socialists or the American National Socialists that makes anyone think they are even remotely right-wing. Only the lies by the left try to hide the fact that they are solely responsible for more than 100 million deaths in the last century alone.

I did not say Socialists are right wing. I said Fascists are. I'm not sure Nazis were socialist but in name.

fas·cism
[ˈfaSHˌizəm]

NOUN
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
synonyms:
authoritarianism · totalitarianism · dictatorship · despotism · autocracy · absolute rule · Nazism · rightism · militarism · nationalism · xenophobia · racism · anti-Semitism · [more]
(in general use) extreme authoritarian, oppressive, or intolerant views or practices.
"this is yet another example of health fascism in action"

Fascism
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of radical, right-wing, authoritarian ultranationalism,[1][2][3][4] characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy,[5] which came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.[6] The first fascist movements emerged in Italy during World War I before it spread to other European countries.[6] Opposed to liberalism, Marxism, and anarchism, fascism is placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.[6][7][8][9][10][11]

Mussolini (enamored with the grandeur of the Roman Empire) campaigned on Make Italy Great Again.

 

[SonOfDaedalus]

Apparently (A) a lot of neo-nazis and white nationalists went to the wrong rally.

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Trump says good people on both sides to that and Republicans are fine. Omar criticizes Israeli lobbyists and she's an anti-Semite. Ridiculous. These people are chanting "the Jews will not replace us" and Trump had to be forced to denounce them.

 

[AncientGeek]

Yes, I’m sure the capitalistic plow owners will work overtime to plow the roads that were paved by a capitalistic road construction company so the kids can get to school and learn about capitalism and what it means to work hard so one day they can makes lots of money and donate to charity’s and pay taxes like a good American.

Sorry, the city owns the plows, roads & schools - not capitalists. (Has to do with who owns and directs - not working hard and making money). Capitalists built and self-certified the crashing Boings and soon will be self-certifying "safe" pork for us to eat - always happy to kill workers for profit.

 

[Thingfish]

Sorry, the city owns the plows, roads & schools - not capitalists. (Has to do with who owns and directs - not working hard and making money). Capitalists built and self-certified the crashing Boings and soon will be self-certifying "safe" pork for us to eat - always happy to kill workers for profit.

that we’re sold from a capitalistic company that makes plows, as far as schools go, those were built using capital and built prolly by the lowest bidder, yes just like the planes.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Trump says good people on both sides to that and Republicans are fine. Omar criticizes Israeli lobbyists and she's an anti-Semite. Ridiculous. These people are chanting "the Jews will not replace us" and Trump had to be forced to denounce them.

He never did. NEVER.
I could do a baseball windup and demolish this stupid piece of revisionist nonsense (Hitler was a liberal socialist) but honestly, most of you already know that I, like many others here who are smarter than me, have already written that epistle perhaps a half a dozen times, and not only have I received a lot of support, so have all the others smarter than me when THEY demolished it as well.

Alan Bullock and William L. Schirer are world renowned experts on Hitler and the Third Reich.
When they say Hitler was a right wing fascist, you can take that to the bank.

And there's about two hundred others of equal stature standing behind them, also calling bullcrap on this nonsense.
I can't help it the IDIOTS of this generation have declined in mental acuity to the point where washed up radio deejays who self appoint as historians can sell them this crock of crap and they swallow it.

Or they could take a moment and actually ASK some WW2 veterans and get it straight from the source, but they won't bother to do that either. Hearing the truth would scare the Hell out of them. They'd wet their pants.

 

[Linc]

Apparently (A) a lot of neo-nazis and white nationalists went to the wrong rally.

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Either that or (B) someone's been filling young white nationalist skulls with a heaping helping of bovine excrement.
I think I'm going with Option B.

In other news, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (aka North Korea) has been found to be "utterly non-democratic".

SStephen Miller is the hard-Reich ‘socialist’ consolidating his power. Let him be the face of the 2020 GOPutins.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

SStephen Miller is the hard-Reich ‘socialist’ consolidating his power. Let him be the face of the 2020 GOPutins.

That word in quotes, yes...Hard Reich National "Socialist", as in Nazi.
He IS the face of 2020.

He's almost freaky enough to deserve a role in a Doctor Strangelove Pt III sequel.

 

[Northern Light]

Hitler's party was right-wing fascist. They called themselves socialist in an attempt to take back power from the rest of Europe "for the German people". Recall that at the time, Germany was making huge reparation payments to western Europe, was suffering from currency inflation, and the products of its labor were forcibly undervalued by the Treaty of Versailles. The "socialism" aspect here was meant to say that Germany's resources were for the Germany people.

In practice, Hitler rounded up the communists before he ever rounded up the Jews. This, despite being an ally with Stalinist Russia, yet another "socialist" regime that was not practicing socialism. The communist party in Germany was diametrically opposed to Hitler because he immediately destroyed worker's unions, nationalized the economy under one-party rule, and created a command economy that served the military first rather than the People.

It's not much different than, say, the "People's Republic of China" today. The PRC is a Republic in name only. They are really a Communist government with a a heavily capitalist free market society (more so than the United States).

You can't just look at a party name at face value. You have to look at the whole political, social and economic system a government is endorsing in order to get the full picture. Often, party names are just propaganda titles.

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

. QUOTE:

NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Hitler's party was right-wing fascist. They called themselves socialist in an attempt to take back power from the rest of Europe "for the German people".

They used it as a marketing tool, the same way that Big Ag is now pasting the word "ORGANIC" and "NATURAL" on everything we eat. The words "socialist" and "democratic" were big magnets to organized labor.

The Night of the Long Knives was the overdue wakeup call that made it clear to labor that they'd been had.
It's no different than a DEA office announcing a huge prize giveaway and then doing a mass arrest when all the folks with warrants show up at the "warehouse" to "pick up their prizes".

Surprise!!!

 

[Northern Light]

They used it as a marketing tool, the same way that Big Ag is now pasting the word "ORGANIC" and "NATURAL" on everything we eat. The words "socialist" and "democratic" were big magnets to organized labor.

The Night of the Long Knives was the overdue wakeup call that made it clear to labor that they'd been had.
It's no different than a DEA office announcing a huge prize giveaway and then doing a mass arrest when all the folks with warrants show up at the "warehouse" to "pick up their prizes".

Surprise!!!

Those naming conventions really work, sadly. Sometimes all it takes is the name to get votes.

 

[snakestretcher]

Huh, not its not

Yes it is; every last historian and WW2 scholar on the planet knows that both Hitler and Mussolini were far-right; about as far from socialism as you can get. Crack open a book or two.

 

[snakestretcher]

Well, yeah.


He plagiarized 75% of "Mein Kampf" (Hitler, 1924) from "The Communist Manifesto" (Marx , Engels etal, 1848), who plagiarized 90% of that from "The Social Contract" (Rousseau, 1762) , the ORIGINAL "socialist tome".


Most leftists do not bother to actually read any of them, opting to regurgitate whatever they were spoonfed by their leftist profs./teachers which is why they always foolishly pretend that "nazism is right wing", and "communism/socialism is left wing".

What on earth are you on about? If you had actually read Mein Kampf (which I very much doubt), you would have noted that throughout the work he frequently reiterates his pathological hatred of communism and socialism in general, putting it on par with his hatred of Jews.
Political views of Adolf Hitler - Wikipedia
Themes in Nazi propaganda - Wikipedia
I have to ask myself why I bother to read your posts; this one in particular is so laughably wrong and ignorant in so many ways that I would be embarrassed to post it, frankly.

"We must uproot the canker of Marxism. Marxism and Germanism are antitheses". Adolf Hitler, 1923 interview with George Sylvester Viereck, published in Liberty magazine, 1932.

 

[Fletch]

He never did. NEVER.
I could do a baseball windup and demolish this stupid piece of revisionist nonsense (Hitler was a liberal socialist) but honestly, most of you already know that I, like many others here who are smarter than me, have already written that epistle perhaps a half a dozen times, and not only have I received a lot of support, so have all the others smarter than me when THEY demolished it as well.

Alan Bullock and William L. Schirer are world renowned experts on Hitler and the Third Reich.
When they say Hitler was a right wing fascist, you can take that to the bank.

And there's about two hundred others of equal stature standing behind them, also calling bullcrap on this nonsense.
I can't help it the IDIOTS of this generation have declined in mental acuity to the point where washed up radio deejays who self appoint as historians can sell them this crock of crap and they swallow it.

Or they could take a moment and actually ASK some WW2 veterans and get it straight from the source, but they won't bother to do that either. Hearing the truth would scare the Hell out of them. They'd wet their pants.

Hitler was a socialist. The only ones 'wetting their pants' over that fact are the leftists who cant let anything interrupt their utopian socialist fantasies.

 

[snakestretcher]

Hitler was a socialist. The only ones 'wetting their pants' over that fact are the leftists who cant let anything interrupt their utopian socialist fantasies.

Read my post above, #91. Your ignorance on the subject is breathtaking.

 

[Fletch]

Read my post above, #91. Your ignorance on the subject is breathtaking.

Wikipedia is not an argument. Hitler was a socialist. The problem you have is that you cant name a socialist country or a socialist leader of any country in history. You, like every other leftist, have a utopian view of something that has never existed in practice--a socialist state. But the fact is there have been numerous socialist states from Hitler to Lenin to Castro to Chaves just to name a few, but you wont acknowledge any of them.

 

[Lesh]

Saying it don’t make it true.

Hitler Killed socialists, communists, union leaders.

Making a claim this ridiculous just shows your basic dishonesty

 

[Hypothetical]

not sure if anyone has said anything about this yet, but you know the term Volkswagen literally means "people's car" and was created in 1937 by the German Labour Front... yeah that GLF, of the Nazi Party.

if you read further into that you will see that the Nazi Party did in fact use many socialist methods to their scheme for community works and such.

does that make authoritarianism, which is what Naziism and fascism are forms of, socialist? not necessarily. authoritarianism isn't really one side or the other as it can manifest itself from any troubled governmental form... HOWEVER... one key factor in developing an authoritarian government is centralized control. which is why it appears to be easier for a collectivist style government to fall prey to becoming authoritarian.

 

[Hypothetical]

Saying it don’t make it true.

Hitler Killed socialists, communists, union leaders.

Making a claim this ridiculous just shows your basic dishonesty

of course he did, Hitler's government was a special type of socialistic reforms and methodology, only applying to the Germanic peoples, because in his mind other bloodlines were inferior.

 

[snakestretcher]

Wikipedia is not an argument. Hitler was a socialist. The problem you have is that you cant name a socialist country or a socialist leader of any country in history. You, like every other leftist, have a utopian view of something that has never existed in practice--a socialist state. But the fact is there have been numerous socialist states from Hitler to Lenin to Castro to Chaves just to name a few, but you wont acknowledge any of them.

You, sir, don't have a clue. It's that word 'socialist' in National Socialism isn't it? Sorry mate, but Hitler was about as far right of socialism as you can get. Perhaps you might explain why it was the socialists that went off to Hitler's concentration camps first. Because Hitler was a socialist, right? smfh

 

[calamity]

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist - Glenn Beck

QUOTE: ".... Yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done....."

ME: I found this great post in another forum; moderators, I will provide a link if I am supposed to link to another forum:

. QUOTE:

NAZI = Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei
or, "National Socialist German Workers' Party"

Funny, I don't see a lot of Germans in the Republican Party but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party.

In fact, not only do I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party, but I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to be able to murder an entire class of people (abortion) just like Hitler did, and who violently attack people in the streets who disagree with them, just like Hitler did. Plus, I see plenty of Socialists in the Democrat Party who want to teach junk science about the human race (transgenderism) just like Hitler did.

The next time you Democrats and Liberals yell "Nazi", just look in the mirror and you'll see the biggest Nazi of them all. Better yet, watch news video of the last couple of weeks regarding Kavanaugh. Democrat Party Fascism at its finest.

lol...Nazis love socialism, for white people.

 

[KAG2020]

lol...Nazis love socialism, for white people.

More ignorance from the forum pathological liar