Yes, Virginia: Hitler really was a socialist

[KAG2020]

Do you think the people of Germany voted for Nazi Germany because the people of Germany wished global domination? Duh?

They voted for it based on the same lies that Democrats spew out today, all in the name of the Worker

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Right wingers seriously are just parrots. They just all keep parroting the same stupid talking points that have been debunked over and over again. BUt because they don't have a shred of intelligence, they just keep whipping out. Since they have no facts and can't actually defend their point, they just have to keep flinging the poop

So easy for Fox news, they don't even have to make up new spin and BS, just keep feeding the same crap to their viewers who are sitting there with their plates and utensils ready to go. For crying out loud its been decades of the same nonsense fear of brown people, immigrants as scapegoats, abortion. Rinse repeat for the rubes

 

[cabse5]

Hence the push towards nationalism that trump and people like the OP are promoting day and night.

Nationalism means love of country. You need to be reprogrammed from the cult of Donald Trump hate, IMO. Your cult, in an attempt to discredit Trump further, has stooped to redefining words.

Yes. After the reparations and hyper-inflation that ensued because the world was punishing Germany after WWI, Germans responded by loving their country...with feelings of nationalism. They loved their country and anyone who dissed it, especially those within Germany, were punished.

 

[Glitch]

Read my post above, #91. Your ignorance on the subject is breathtaking.

Actually, it is the level of your indoctrination that is astounding. In Hitler's own words he states his support for socialism on numerous occasions, and then nationalizes numerous German industries like a true socialist, and yet you deny reality. Amazing.

I can understand your cognitive dissonance. It must be difficult to realize that everything you have been taught by the anti-American left has been a deliberate lie.

 

[cabse5]

The bolded is unequivocally false.

Kobie, you realize, for example, Trump isn't far right? Ask Rand Paul. He's an example of about as far right as I can think of. Does Paul want bigger gov't?

Don't ask Trump or McConnell even though Mitch is from Kentucky, a small gov't state.

 

[AncientGeek]

Nationalism means love of country. You need to be reprogrammed from the cult of Donald Trump hate, IMO. Your cult, in an attempt to discredit Trump further, has stooped to redefining words.

Yes. Germans loved their country after the reparations and hyper-inflation that ensued because the world was punishing Germany after WWI and Germans responded. They became nationalistic. They loved their country and anyone who dissed it, especially those within Germany were punished.

Germany was reduced to a miserable state after WWI making them ripe for a dictator who:
Told them they were the greatest people on earth
Gave them someone to hate, fear and blame for their problems
Disparaged the news media
Filled the government with cronies
Superseded the judiciary
Became a dictator

Gee, sounds a lot like #45

 

[cabse5]

Actually, it is the level of your indoctrination that is astounding. In Hitler's own words he states his support for socialism on numerous occasions, and then nationalizes numerous German industries like a true socialist, and yet you deny reality. Amazing.

I can understand your cognitive dissonance. It must be difficult to realize that everything you have been taught by the anti-American left has been a deliberate lie.

They all need to be deprogrammed from their hate-Trump cult. Hopefully, some day, their minds will be opened.

 

[Deuce]

They voted for it based on the same lies that Democrats spew out today, all in the name of the Worker

If Volkswagen workers refused to make military vehicles because they wanted to make cars for the people, what would Hitler's response have been?

Do you believe North Korea is a Republic?

 

[Deuce]

Kobie, you realize, for example, Trump isn't far right? Ask Rand Paul. He's an example of about as far right as I can think of. Does Paul want bigger gov't?

Don't ask Trump or McConnell even though Mitch is from Kentucky, a small gov't state.

"Conservative = small government, liberal = big government" is false.

 

[cabse5]

Germany was reduced to a miserable state after WWI making them ripe for a dictator who:
Told them they were the greatest people on earth
Gave them someone to hate, fear and blame for their problems
Disparaged the news media
Filled the government with cronies
Superseded the judiciary
Became a dictator

Gee, sounds a lot like #45

My post #132 applies to you. You need to be deprogrammed from your hate-Trump cult.

 

[cabse5]

"Conservative = small government, liberal = big government" is false.

How is it false?

 

[cabse5]

If Volkswagen workers refused to make military vehicles because they wanted to make cars for the people, what would Hitler's response have been?

Do you believe North Korea is a Republic?

Are you comparing Nazi Germany to North Korea? Are both countries right-leaning, for example?:lol:

 

[Deuce]

How is it false?

Because that scale is "authoritarian/libertarian"

 

[AncientGeek]

My post #132 applies to you. You need to be deprogrammed from your hate-Trump cult.

Must be a graduate of Trump University. How much have you donated to Trump Foundation?

#45 is a billionaire, but we can’t see his taxes.
He was a brilliant student, but we can’t see his grades.
The Mueller report exonerates him, but we can’t see it.

 

[Deuce]

Are you comparing Nazi Germany to North Korea? Are both countries right-leaning, for example?:lol:

They are two separate questions regarding two separate claims the OP makes. I notice you didn't answer either of them. Afraid to?

 

[Deuce]

Must be a graduate of Trump University. How much have you donated to Trump Foundation?

#45 is a billionaire, but we can’t see his taxes.
He was a brilliant student, but we can’t see his grades.
The Mueller report exonerates him, but we can’t see it.

Haven't seen his birth certificate either...

 

[cabse5]

Because that scale is "authoritarian/libertarian"

Your statement would be correct if you'd posted: 'The current crop of leading GOPs are more authoritarian and less libertarian.'
Heck, Abe Lincoln, the first GOP president was about as authoritarian as they come.
What statement is increasing becoming true is: The current crop of GOP has as much more a tendency of authoritarianism than libertarianism. One factor in that slide to authoritarianism would be the crisis at the border. Libertarians also believe in enforcing laws...border laws.

 

[cabse5]

Haven't seen his birth certificate either...

There was no question if Trump was a natural born citizen. No need to see birth certificate.

 

[cabse5]

If Volkswagen workers refused to make military vehicles because they wanted to make cars for the people, what would Hitler's response have been?

Do you believe North Korea is a Republic?

You are describing totalitarianism with the first question...Nazi Germany and N.Korea. South Africa was a republic. Any country can call itself a republic.

 

[Deuce]

Your statement would be correct if you'd posted: 'The current crop of leading GOPs are more authoritarian and less libertarian.'
Heck, Abe Lincoln, the first GOP president was about as authoritarian as they come.
What statement is increasing becoming true is: The current crop of GOP has as much more a tendency of authoritarianism than libertarianism. One factor in that slide to authoritarianism would be the crisis at the border. Libertarians also believe in enforcing laws...border laws.

Yes, I agree with everything here.

Also, everybody believes in "enforcing laws."

 

[cabse5]

Yes, I agree with everything here.

Also, everybody believes in "enforcing laws."

California allows ICE to take back illegals? Is that a new policy for California?

 

[Thingfish]

The source of things does not make them capitalistic when they are owned and operated by a government entity - that is the definition of socialism. A mixed system is desirable. The choice is making up the mix. Like, it is in the best interest of a county to educate every individual to their capacity - not just rich people who bribe their way in. China at the national level is busy preparing the leaders of the next advance in Artificial Intelligence, we are trying to save a few coal mining jobs to the determent of our environment.

on schooling, I believe there is a push to indoctrinate (at the youngest level) a leftist lean unspoken about in the curricula.

 

[Deuce]

You are describing totalitarianism with the first question...Nazi Germany and N.Korea.

Agreed. Hitler would have had the workers shot. The workers were not actually in charge of the means of production, therefore it was not actually socialism. Hitler was a dictator. Lots of dictators use a facade of socialism because it superficially sounds nice. "Yeah all this power I've amassed is for the good of the people, I swear! This is all for your benefit, aren't I such a great dictator?"

South Africa was a republic. Any country can call itself a republic.

Agreed. OP points out that the Nazi party had the word "socialist" in the title. North Korea has the word "republic" in the title. Neither are accurate, as shown above. If the workers aren't in control of the means of production, it's not socialism.

 

[Deuce]

California allows ICE to take back illegals? Is that a new policy for California?

Which law compels local law enforcement to engage in an unfunded mandate of doing ICE's job for them?

 

[cabse5]

Correct. Hitler would have had the workers shot. The workers were not actually in charge of the means of production, therefore it was not actually socialism. Hitler was a dictator. Lots of dictators use a facade of socialism because it superficially sounds nice. "Yeah all this power I've amassed is for the good of the people, I swear! This is all for your benefit, aren't I such a great dictator?"


Correct. OP points out that the Nazi party had the word "socialist" in the title. North Korea has the word "republic" in the title. Neither are accurate, as shown above. If the workers aren't in control of the means of production, it's not socialism.

Gov't is in charge of the means of production with socialism. The people just get equal shares.

Hitler received many of his ideas how to run the Nazi regime from Mussolini and from his Fasci.
Mussolini was left-winged.

Nazi Germany was a combination of left and right wing ideology.