Would you be friends with a Transgender person? 27% say no.[W:151]

[LaylaWindu]

Deception is not lying? A man dressing up like a woman and taking female hormones in order to be perceived as a female is nothing but deception and hence a lie.

Yep, just as I thought you have no idea what transgenderism is hahahaha. Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[maxparrish]

"Transgenders" are people who suffer from identity dysphoria, not unlike those who think they are "black" (when they are not). Whatever the cause of their mental disorder (be it organic or environmental) such individuals feel compelled to think of themselves as something they are not - in substance, not unlike those who think they are vampires, Napoleon, or a dog.

I might associate with someone so disordered, but it is unlikely that I would find it appealing. Many of them have uncomfortable affections, demonstrativeness, emotionalism (especially males who think they are female), and other forms of personea instability. Moreover, I find it particularly annoying to be around obvious men parading around in lipstick and dresses.

Such individuals are a biological error, and imprinted incorrectly (something like a sheep that thinks it is a goat). Sadly, there is no cure. The best one can do is encourage them to try to live with their biological destiny, and mute their dress to unisexual clothing or mild nods to their wished for sex (such as effeminate males and dykish females).

 

[Cherub786]

"Transgenders" are people who suffer from identity dysphoria, not unlike those who think they are "black" (when they are not). Whatever the cause of their mental disorder (be it organic or environmental) such individuals feel compelled to think of themselves as something they are not - in substance, not unlike those who think they are vampires, Napoleon, or a dog.

I might associate with someone so disordered, but it is unlikely that I would find it appealing. Many of them have uncomfortable affections, demonstrativeness, emotionalism (especially males who think they are female), and other forms of personea instability. Moreover, I find it particularly annoying to be around obvious men parading around in lipstick and dresses.

Such individuals are a biological error, and imprinted incorrectly (something like a sheep that thinks it is a goat). Sadly, there is no cure. The best one can do is encourage them to try to live with their biological destiny, and mute their dress to unisexual clothing or mild nods to their wished for sex (such as effeminate males and dykish females).

It isn’t fair to pressure society to accommodate people that are delusional, for whatever psychological reason. Take the public bathroom issue for example. If a man wants to pretend to be a woman he can do so in the privacy of his home, but once you enter the public sphere you have to respect the fact that you are interacting with society at large. So even if there is no cure (something I’m not entirely convinced of), that doesn’t mean we have to indulge such people and treat them as women when they are clearly men. Some transgenders are “passable” but the vast majority are not. They should not feel offended or cause an outcry if some young kid opens his mouth and says “why is that man dressed like a lady?” They have to accept the social reality and not pressure us t change through their politicking.

 

[LaylaWindu]

It isn’t fair to pressure society to accommodate people that are delusional, for whatever psychological reason.

Who is delusional? Once again proving you have no idea what transgenderism is. HAHAHA You might want to educate yourself on this topic first because making any further embarrassing posts like that.

 

[Cherub786]

Who is delusional? Once again proving you have no idea what transgenderism is. HAHAHA You might want to educate yourself on this topic first because making any further embarrassing posts like that.

Who says (other than you)? Are you a trans person yourself? Maybe that explains why you are writing such ad hominem remarks. In that case I ask to be excused, I prefer to discuss with people on such issues dispassionately.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Who says (other than you)? Are you a trans person yourself? Maybe that explains why you are writing such ad hominem remarks. In that case I ask to be excused, I prefer to discuss with people on such issues dispassionately.

Who? once again even asking that question shows you have no clue about this topic. Facts, definitions and medical science says you are wrong. Good move running away though before any more of your posts get their ass handed to them. haha :2wave:

 

[William Rea]

It isn’t fair to pressure society to accommodate people that are delusional, for whatever psychological reason...

We allow religion to do this.

Even that ****hole India has transgendered people.

 

[William Rea]

It isn’t fair to pressure society to accommodate people that are delusional, for whatever psychological reason. Take the public bathroom issue for example. If a man wants to pretend to be a woman he can do so in the privacy of his home, but once you enter the public sphere you have to respect the fact that you are interacting with society at large. So even if there is no cure (something I’m not entirely convinced of), that doesn’t mean we have to indulge such people and treat them as women when they are clearly men. Some transgenders are “passable” but the vast majority are not. They should not feel offended or cause an outcry if some young kid opens his mouth and says “why is that man dressed like a lady?” They have to accept the social reality and not pressure us t change through their politicking.

So much for this...

I see more diversity and differences in human beings outweighing our biological and anatomical similarities...

 

[maxparrish]

It isn’t fair to pressure society to accommodate people that are delusional, for whatever psychological reason. Take the public bathroom issue for example. If a man wants to pretend to be a woman he can do so in the privacy of his home, but once you enter the public sphere you have to respect the fact that you are interacting with society at large. So even if there is no cure (something I’m not entirely convinced of), that doesn’t mean we have to indulge such people and treat them as women when they are clearly men. Some transgenders are “passable” but the vast majority are not. They should not feel offended or cause an outcry if some young kid opens his mouth and says “why is that man dressed like a lady?” They have to accept the social reality and not pressure us t change through their politicking.

I pretty much agree. Transgenderism is a biological aberration and it is normal for folks to be repelled by their presence. Human beings, like other animals, instinctively feel uncomfortable around strange behaviors - just as a goat would reject a love-struck sheep.

Of course, a great many people lie to themselves (or at least others) and politely pretend a lip sticked male in heels is woman. And those of us who occasionally see nearly passable TG's (I live in the bay area) have the mispleasure of having to look three or four times to figure out exactly "what" we are looking at.

 

[code1211]

What does any of that have to do with "imagined orentation"

Biology is biology.

I imagined that I was the fastest runner in the world world when I was very young. I was disabused of this imagined marker before the age of 10. I can still imagine the notion. It just isn't real.

Imagining that your biological markers are wrong is "imagined orientation".

I don't have a problem with people imagining things as long as it costs me nothing and hurts nobody.

Many little boys imagine themselves to be wizards. Sayin' it's so don't make it so.

 

[Maccabee]

transsexual is not 'gender fluid'. I do not have enough information about what people mean when they say 'gender fluid' .. or if it is indeed a choice or not. I do not think it would be a mental disorder, by the definitions we have of what a mental disorder is.

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Biology is biology.

I imagined that I was the fastest runner in the world world when I was very young. I was disabused of this imagined marker before the age of 10. I can still imagine the notion. It just isn't real.

Imagining that your biological markers are wrong is "imagined orientation".

I don't have a problem with people imagining things as long as it costs me nothing and hurts nobody.

Many little boys imagine themselves to be wizards. Sayin' it's so don't make it so.

And here is another person that has no clue what transgenderism is, you also just proved you have no idea what orentation is. Hahahaha :2rofll:

 

[TheGoverness]

Being trans as the title suggests.

Being transgender is not a "lifestyle". It's just like how me being gay is not a "lifestyle".

Lifestyle implies choice. There is no choice.

 

[Maccabee]

And here is another person that has no clue what transgenderism is, you also just proved you have no idea what orentation is. Hahahaha :2rofll:

Alright, oh wise one, tell us what transgenderism is.

 

[Fenton Lum]

https://today.yougov.com/news/2017/05/17/21-americans-believe-identifying-transgender-menta/


I found that shockingly and shamefully high for americans.


Would you be friends with a Transgender person?
Yes
No

Doesn't matter to me, any of this gender nonsense. At all.

 

[LaylaWindu]

Alright, oh wise one, tell us what transgenderism is.

Well if you were reading along, it most certainly is not "imagined orientation", are you claiming it is? Yes or no?

 

[Fenton Lum]

Being transgender is not a "lifestyle". It's just like how me being gay is not a "lifestyle".

Lifestyle implies choice. There is no choice.

It's no one else's damn business if it IS a choice, live and let live, **** all this old testiment fundamentalism bull****.

 

[Maccabee]

Well if you were reading along, it most certainly is not "imagined orientation", are you claiming it is? Yes or no?

For a lot of people yes. For the rest, it's a mental disorder.

 

[LaylaWindu]

yes.

So you ARE claiming that's its imagined orientation? That's halarious, sexual orentation has nothign to do with transgenderism. Thank you for proving my point about people simply not knowing what transgenderism is.

 

[RAMOSS]

Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder.

Transgenderism is not gender dysphoria.

 

[Maccabee]

So you ARE claiming that's its imagined orientation? That's halarious, sexual orentation has nothign to do with transgenderism. Thank you for proving my point about people simply not knowing what transgenderism is.

I literally just said that for a lot of people, not all, it's yes. A lot of people are trans just for the attention. For the rest, they suffer from a mental disorder.

 

[Maccabee]

Transgenderism is not gender dysphoria.

What's the difference?

 

[LaylaWindu]

I literally just said that for a lot of people, not all, it's yes. A lot of people are trans just for the attention. For the rest, they suffer from a mental disorder.

Yes I know what you said and it proves you have no clue about transgenderism. Sexuall oretation has nothing to do with transgeners and their transgenderism, NONE of them. Thank you again for doubling down and that and further proving you don't know what transgenderism is.

 

[RAMOSS]

What's the difference?

One is a feeling that you are in the wrong body, the other is the treatment for it, as well as similar conditions. I will bow to the Captain Courtesy to explain in more in depth, since it's his area of expertise.

 

[Maccabee]

One is a feeling that you are in the wrong body, the other is the treatment for it, as well as similar conditions. I will bow to the Captain Courtesy to explain in more in depth, since it's his area of expertise.

I like to see the evidence.