World Health Organization says no masks

[Simon W. Moon]

How long before we see "trump killed my kids at school" ads?

schools open in like two or three weeks.

It take about four to six weeks to die after contracting it

so, in about six to nine weeks,
the kids'll start showing their long term health effects, amputations, etc.

Oh yeah.
That's also when some of the kids will die too.

Probably not your kids though, so ****'em.

Children and their families will start dying / recovering w/ long term effects around the end of September and early October
at that point, you can expect to see the ads with grieving orphans and grieving parents.

 

[The AntiDonald]

So you're a maskhole.

His did I know this?

I got a great idea for you. Why don't you travel to Sturgis South Dakota this weekend and join the 250,000 bikers. None are wearing masks, you'll fit right in. The mayor says he's not worried. He'll just monitor it when it ends. Good freaking luck.

 

[Jonsa]

At least in the blanket general sense.

5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine

https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve


Many countries have recommended the use of fabric masks/face coverings for the general public. At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider (see below).

The new guidelines recommend that everyone who comes in close contact with others in crowded or close quarters, such as on a bus or in a store, wear a cloth mask composed of at least three different layers of material. People 60 or older, or those with underlying health conditions, should wear medical masks, such as surgical masks, in public, and physicians and health care providers should wear medical masks in all areas of a hospital, even if the area in which they are working has no COVID-19 patients, according to the organization.


Notice he underlined part.

If social distancing is practiced, it’s not recommended to wear the mask.


How is it thst reasonable people cannot disagree on this?


Also notice, the it’s reommended the mask have 3 layers. Nobody gives a ratsxass if it has three layers. I think the reason is that it’s about signaling your tribal allegiance for many.

Not wearing a mask means you are a filthy deplorable. It’s not about the effectiveness, it’s about who you are if not wearing one. It’s a sad stste of affairs.

What kind of crap are you trying to peddle here? nice cherry pick of the guidelines. The who guidelines are clear where masks should be worn and that for damn sure means even with social distancing in areas of outbreak.

but nah, apparently trumpian ideas of patriotism include fighting against personal inconvenience in a national crisis at the expense of everybody else.


now we can quibble about the label, but the definition of deplorable speaks for itself.

de·plor·a·ble
/dəˈplôrəb(ə)l/
Learn to pronounce
adjective

1. deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
Similar:
disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable,disreputable, discreditable,unworthy

2. shockingly bad in quality.
"her spelling was deplorable"

 

[Simpletruther]

What kind of crap are you trying to peddle here? nice cherry pick of the guidelines. The who guidelines are clear where masks should be worn and that for damn sure means even with social distancing in areas of outbreak.

but nah, apparently trumpian ideas of patriotism include fighting against personal inconvenience in a national crisis at the expense of everybody else.


now we can quibble about the label, but the definition of deplorable speaks for itself.

de·plor·a·ble
/dəˈplôrəb(ə)l/
Learn to pronounce
adjective

1. deserving strong condemnation.
"the deplorable conditions in which most prisoners are held"
Similar:
disgraceful, shameful, dishonorable,disreputable, discreditable,unworthy

2. shockingly bad in quality.
"her spelling was deplorable"

I am afraid you are incorrect there, it’s not recommended when social distancing, not to mention you are being a rude ahole.

 

[Jonsa]

I am afraid you are incorrect there, it’s not recommended when social distancing, not to mention you are being a rude ahole.

please quote the recommendation. Nothing like mischaracterizing.

And I may be rude, but I am an honest asshole.

 

[Simpletruther]

Exactly.

We only need masks when we go to the store and things like that.

We don't need masks when we're at home.

Unless you are social distancing at the store, which most places are.

 

[Simpletruther]

No, WHO does NOT say "No masks".

You didn't actually read through the WHO pdf guidelines, did you?

You didn’t actually read my post did you?

 

[Simpletruther]

please quote the recommendation. Nothing like mischaracterizing.

And I may be rude, but I am an honest asshole.

It’s in the link here is the relevant part:

Setting in which the population lives: settings with high population density (e.g. refugee camps, camp-like settings, those living in cramped conditions) and settings
where individuals are unable to keep a physical distance
of at least 1 metre (3.3 feet) (e.g. public transportation). 5. Feasi



So by implication, if you are able to keep thst social distance, it’s not recommended.

 

[Jonsa]

It’s in the link here is the relevant part:

Setting in which the population lives: settings with high population density (e.g. refugee camps, camp-like settings, those living in cramped conditions) and settings
where individuals are unable to keep a physical distance
of at least 1 metre (3.3 feet) (e.g. public transportation). 5. Feasi



So by implication, if you are able to keep thst social distance, it’s not recommended.

by implication? What nonsense. They don't imply they state categorically that a mask is recommended as per table 2 on page 7.

How on earth do you think you can get away with this bull**** when the publication is there for all to friggin' read?

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Unless you are social distancing at the store, which most places are.

Are you sure you read what you posted from the WHO?

WHO said masks on at stores


:shrug:

 

[2distracted]

At least in the blanket general sense.

5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine

https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve


Many countries have recommended the use of fabric masks/face coverings for the general public. At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider (see below).

The new guidelines recommend that everyone who comes in close contact with others in crowded or close quarters, such as on a bus or in a store, wear a cloth mask composed of at least three different layers of material. People 60 or older, or those with underlying health conditions, should wear medical masks, such as surgical masks, in public, and physicians and health care providers should wear medical masks in all areas of a hospital, even if the area in which they are working has no COVID-19 patients, according to the organization.


Notice he underlined part.

If social distancing is practiced, it’s not recommended to wear the mask.


How is it thst reasonable people cannot disagree on this?


Also notice, the it’s reommended the mask have 3 layers. Nobody gives a ratsxass if it has three layers. I think the reason is that it’s about signaling your tribal allegiance for many.

Not wearing a mask means you are a filthy deplorable. It’s not about the effectiveness, it’s about who you are if not wearing one. It’s a sad stste of affairs.

I've heard elsewhere that cloth masks (the simple ones that aren't layered) aren't terribly effective especially if someone coughs on u...

 

[roguenuke]

The


Yea, of course masks now will save more lives, but that doesn’t change the point. Masks undoubted would have saved 10s of thousands over the years had we been wearing masks every flue season, if they indeed work.

Yes they would possibly have done so, but the cost during flu season is not considered worth the benefit for most. Just as three point harnesses would likely keep everyone safer in most crashes, along with reducing speed limits, but the costs of those things outweigh the benefits.

Just because a benefit is life or health, doesn't mean humans will always defer to those as outweighing the costs, especially if the risk is low, very low, when other mitigating factors reduce the risk for many to very low.

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[roguenuke]

CVS Health is offering drive-up coronavirus testing (COVID-19) at 2797 North Carolina 55 Cary, NC 27519, for qualifying residents, 18+.

They don't take your temp...

Drive up only, no walk-in (not everyone has a car).

Not everyone has insurance or qualify under the program.

And you still have to answer questions to see if you qualify for the test. Which means you cant just take the test as a precaution.

Also, they make people do it to themselves. Which means far more false negatives than a trained person doing it.

Most importantly, you cant force people to get tested, not in this way. You cant force them to take time off work to test or time away from their family for this test. Especially when there are qualifiers for this test.



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[Fledermaus]

Drive up only, no walk-in (not everyone has a car).

Not everyone has insurance or qualify under the program.

And you still have to answer questions to see if you qualify for the test. Which means you cant just take the test as a precaution.

Also, they make people do it to themselves. Which means far more false negatives than a trained person doing it.

Most importantly, you cant force people to get tested, not in this way. You cant force them to take time off work to test or time away from their family for this test. Especially when there are qualifiers for this test.

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Ah, the goalposts keep moving.

Last time I checked it was free.

And no car.... Catch a ride with a friend.

And it was you that mentioned symptoms. Symptoms = Get tested.

And the test isn't rocket science. The exact protocol were followeded by my test at a hospital and the test taken at CVS.

And I wasn't "forced" to do anything.

 

[Fledermaus]

It’s in the link here is the relevant part:

Setting in which the population lives: settings with high population density (e.g. refugee camps, camp-like settings, those living in cramped conditions) and settings
where individuals are unable to keep a physical distance
of at least 1 metre (3.3 feet) (e.g. public transportation). 5. Feasi



So by implication, if you are able to keep thst social distance, it’s not recommended.

Masks are recommended.

 

[roguenuke]

Ah, the goalposts keep moving.

Last time I checked it was free.

And no car.... Catch a ride with a friend.

And it was you that mentioned symptoms. Symptoms = Get tested.

And the test isn't rocket science. The exact protocol were followeded by my test at a hospital and the test taken at CVS.

And I wasn't "forced" to do anything.

Because others are saying that the only people who should have any restrictions placed on them are those who test positive. There are multiple problems with that thinking. The symptoms of COVID-19 crossover with symptoms of other things, especially if there is no fever, since 90% or more of people with Covid have a fever. That is why screening for many jobs and cruises and flying is/will include a temperature check. Such things miss people, hence the other precautions, wearing a mask, social distancing, shields, extra cleaning, etc.

And an inch is in fact hard for many to estimate.

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[Moderate Right]

At least in the blanket general sense.

5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine

https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve


Many countries have recommended the use of fabric masks/face coverings for the general public. At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider (see below).

The new guidelines recommend that everyone who comes in close contact with others in crowded or close quarters, such as on a bus or in a store, wear a cloth mask composed of at least three different layers of material. People 60 or older, or those with underlying health conditions, should wear medical masks, such as surgical masks, in public, and physicians and health care providers should wear medical masks in all areas of a hospital, even if the area in which they are working has no COVID-19 patients, according to the organization.


Notice he underlined part.

If social distancing is practiced, it’s not recommended to wear the mask.


How is it thst reasonable people cannot disagree on this?


Also notice, the it’s reommended the mask have 3 layers. Nobody gives a ratsxass if it has three layers. I think the reason is that it’s about signaling your tribal allegiance for many.

Not wearing a mask means you are a filthy deplorable. It’s not about the effectiveness, it’s about who you are if not wearing one. It’s a sad stste of affairs.

The left have their agenda written in stone. They will not waver from it. They refuse to accept facts. They also believe that masks stop the virus from being breathed out by those with Covid but that the mask will not protect people from breathing in Covid. It apparently only works one way.

 

[Moderate Right]

What is sad is some morons can't just wear a d*"n mask.

Why should they? If you are wearing YOUR mask then you will be OK. If they want to catch Covid, let them.

 

[Moderate Right]

In other words wear masks when you expect contact with others.

The problem is common sense isn't a common virtue.

And since you can't force others to social distance you cannot depend on social distance to protect you.

Everyone who doesn't want to catch the virus should wear a mask when around others, particular at indoor settings. Whether others wear their masks or not is their problem.

 

[Fledermaus]

Because others are saying that the only people who should have any restrictions placed on them are those who test positive. There are multiple problems with that thinking. The symptoms of COVID-19 crossover with symptoms of other things, especially if there is no fever, since 90% or more of people with Covid have a fever. That is why screening for many jobs and cruises and flying is/will include a temperature check. Such things miss people, hence the other precautions, wearing a mask, social distancing, shields, extra cleaning, etc.

And an inch is in fact hard for many to estimate.

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Where are those damn goalposts?

They were just here.

 

[Moderate Right]

So you're a maskhole.

His did I know this?

So you're a maskhole.

How did I know this?

 

[danielpalos]

At least in the blanket general sense.

5 Questions: Stanford scientists on COVID-19 mask guidelines | News Center | Stanford Medicine

https://apps.who.int/iris/rest/bitstreams/1279750/retrieve


Many countries have recommended the use of fabric masks/face coverings for the general public. At the present time, the widespread use of masks by healthy people in the community setting is not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence and there are potential benefits and harms to consider (see below).

The new guidelines recommend that everyone who comes in close contact with others in crowded or close quarters, such as on a bus or in a store, wear a cloth mask composed of at least three different layers of material. People 60 or older, or those with underlying health conditions, should wear medical masks, such as surgical masks, in public, and physicians and health care providers should wear medical masks in all areas of a hospital, even if the area in which they are working has no COVID-19 patients, according to the organization.


Notice he underlined part.

If social distancing is practiced, it’s not recommended to wear the mask.


How is it thst reasonable people cannot disagree on this?


Also notice, the it’s reommended the mask have 3 layers. Nobody gives a ratsxass if it has three layers. I think the reason is that it’s about signaling your tribal allegiance for many.

Not wearing a mask means you are a filthy deplorable. It’s not about the effectiveness, it’s about who you are if not wearing one. It’s a sad stste of affairs.

Healthcare professionals wear masks during health stressful procedures. We are mitigating a known, airborne pathogen. Any questions?

 

[Fledermaus]

Everyone who doesn't want to catch the virus should wear a mask when around others, particular at indoor settings. Whether others wear their masks or not is their problem.

Only N95 mask protect someone from the virus. The general wearing of masks is to prevent transmitting the virus.

It is the asymptomatic assholes without masks that will continue the spread.

 

[Moderate Right]

"How is it that reasonable people...?" Because it's a terrible (temporary), inconvenience and a violation of their Holy Rights? That's what whining conservatives tell us.

If you wear YOUR mask it doesn't matter whether others do or not. That's their problem.

 

[snakestretcher]

If you wear YOUR mask it doesn't matter whether others do or not. That's their problem.

No, it's MY problem if they don't wear one and then come near me unloading their virus. This is precisely why your rates are growing exponentially; because arrogant 'patriotic' idiots more concerned about their 'rights' are wandering around infecting anyone they come into contact with-including those trying to protect themselves and others by social distancing and wearing masks.