World’s happiest countries: Here’s why U.S. slipped in new report

[TU Curmudgeon]

There is a huge difference between a country with 5 million people and a country with over 300 million.

Both China and India have larger populations than the US has, and both of them have some form of "universal healthcare".

It's like new treatments being tried in the healthcare field. We find a drug or vaccine that maybe cures HIV in rats and then we try it on humans and it is a total fail. Something works perfectly in a petri dish but doesn't work in humans.

The US is the only one of the G-20 countries that does NOT have some form of "universal healthcare".

We test a new flight system in a new plane in the testing stage and it works perfectly, only to have two major crashes killing over 300 people in actual flights.

Well, actually it didn't "work perfectly", it caused exactly the same problems that led to the two fatal crashes and neither the FAA nor Boeing (assuming that Boeing told the FAA about the flaw) bothered to tell people about what the problem was or how to fix it.

The left doesn't seem to acknowledge this.

And "the right" (whatever that means in the US) seems to acknowledge that other countries have actually managed to make it work.

"Oh, it worked in this country with 5 million people so there's no reason it shouldn't work in a country with over 300 million".

Actually the only reason why it "won't work" is that it would have an adverse effect on profits.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Your argument is completely stupid because any of it could be implemented at the state level like 50 little countries. Just admit you don't want affordable health care, paternity leave or more vacation. Admitting you want that would be admitting you don't have it now because America has serious room for improvement in some areas.

The Canadian "universal healthcare insurance" program is administered at the Provincial level.

Wyoming has a population of around 577,750 and Newfoundland and Labrador has a population of around 519,750. Wyoming has an area of around 97,100 sq.mi. and Newfoundland and Labrador has an area of around 156,453 sq.mi.. If Newfoundland and Labrador can manage to make it work, then Wyoming can certainly make it work.

The population density of the US is around 35.11 per sq.km. and the population density of Canada is around 3.73 per sq.km. so the "Well those other countries have much denser populations that America does, so it won't work here." line is equally spurious.

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

You should blame your poor taste in chocolate. Stop having that junk and get something decent at least like Sprüngli and you too will be happy.

HOGwash!!!

All real chocolate lovers won't touch anything but Kellogg's DOUBLE Chocolate Krave - the world's only completely environmentally friendly chocolate because it uses lots of chocolate flavoured ingredients and hardly any real chocolate.

Show your kids teachers how much you appreciate them and give the young'uns a DOUBLE serving of Kellogg's DOUBLE Chocolate Krave for breakfast every school day.

 

[pamak]

Most, if not all, of these countries are rather small, population wise. The larger a country's population the more problems there are bound to be.

This is another conservative excuse to justify the failure of the private healthcare system in the US.

Here is a list of the states by population...

List of states and territories of the United States by population - Wikipedia

More than 40 states have less than 10 million people, so they are comparable to even small European countries. So, why is there such incompetence at the STATE level with insurance companies to provide comprehensive healthcare?

 

[TU Curmudgeon]

Then try it in your liberal states and watch it totally fail. Bernie's state of Vermont realized that single payer couldn't be done and California's very liberal governor Jerry Brown even nixed single payer healthcare as being too expensive. Your very own people said it couldn't even work in their small scales.

Part of the problem is the "equal protection" clause of the US constitution because that means that ALL people in the United States of America are entitled to ALL benefits offered by whichever state they are in.

Under the Canadian system, each individual province has their own eligibility criteria but strangely enough they are all identical mutatus mutandi with BC's as set out in BC's "Are you Eligible?". If applied in the US, that would mean that a Wisconsin resident who happened to be in California would NOT be covered by the California plan (however the Wisconsin plan might well provide benefits [based on the Wisconsin charges]).

 

[Risky Thicket]

Fins are just happy from all that fresh air and sunshine they get from raking.

Plus there's nude yodeling on Wednesdays or maybe it's saunas. I forget which.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Most, if not all, of these countries are rather small, population wise. The larger a country's population the more problems there are bound to be. And, the US has built ourselves up to be the largest superpower in the world. It helps regarding keeping us free and it also helps in keeping others free around the world. I mean NATO wasn't really formed to keep America safe from Russia. It was formed to keep European and other countries over there free. I mean, the US does not need NATO to keep us free. But, Finland needs NATO to keep them free. If Finland is attacked the US military will be a huge help to them. If the US is attacked, how much help is Finland's military going to be to us?

And, the same goes for our economy. Our economy can do lasting damage to others in the world through sanctions. Can Finland use it's economic might to influence anyone? Some of these small population European countries are able to do much more for their people safety net wise because they sponge dollars off the US for their protection so they can use their dollars for their liberal policies. Look what would really happen if Trump cut our military and foreign aid budgets down to zero and used the money for liberal safety net programs here in the US. Our country would be happier and Finland would be annexed by Russia. Would Finland be happy then if that happened?

Ah, ass logic! Who can argue with that? :roll:

 

[Risky Thicket]

Damn, even Canada is jealous... :lol:

Yes, but Canada apologized for the jealousy.

 

[truthatallcost]

Universal health care is kinda nice too....as is a year off when you have a baby, decent wages, social programs, better education, less of the citizenry in jail, etc...yay socialism. :lol:

I watched a recent interview with Jordan Peterson's daughter, and a fellow Canadian of yours. She's had an autoimmune disorder since she was 4, is now 26 and said the Canadian healthcare system sucks. So she comes to America for treatment, specifically North Carolina, UNC Chapel Hill.

 

[truthatallcost]

From The San Jose Mercury News

World’s happiest countries: Here’s why U.S. slipped in new report
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HELSINKI, March 20 (Reuters) – Finland topped the ranking of the world’s happiest countries for the second year in a row, with the Nordic countries taking the leading spots, an annual survey issued on Wednesday showed.

South Sudan came last in the U.N. Sustainable Development Solutions Network’s 2019 World Happiness Report.

It ranked 156 countries according to things such as GDP per capita, social support, healthy life expectancy, social freedom, generosity and absence of corruption.

Taking the harsh, dark winters in their stride, Finns’ happiness is boosted by access to nature, safety, affordable childcare, free education and heavily subsidized healthcare.

The top 10 was again dominated by the Nordics, with Denmark, Norway and Iceland taking the other leading spots followed by Netherlands, Switzerland, Sweden, New Zealand, Canada and Austria. The United States dropped one place to 19th.

COMMENT:-

I wouldn't worry about being 19th out of 156. After all that's still in the top 1/8th.

However, the whole report might be interesting to some people and there is a link to it in the article.

PS - The reason for the drop is NOT "Donald John Trump".

PPS - Did you know that 60% of the top 10 countries are monarchies?
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Imagine living in a first rate country where you're allowed to be proud of your culture and traditions, without being scapegoated on a daily basis for the failures of minorities, or 'racism', 'islamophobia', 'antisemitism', & 'homophobia'. Sounds nice! Plus the women are the hottest in the world, and not fat. Winner winner chicken dinner.

 

[Risky Thicket]

But, it's an all white country and I don't see any of them hoopin-n-hollerin to import a few million Mexicans.

Feckin brilliant! Spending another night at Sonic, are you?

A Mexican was in the kitchen making milkshakes and you drank a load of them anyway. If he knows you or knows of you I'm betting he spit in them too. Who would blame him? I mean other than you.

 

[truthatallcost]

Feckin brilliant! Spending another night at Sonic, are you?

A Mexican was in the kitchen making milkshakes and you drank a load of them anyway. If he knows you or knows of you I'm betting he spit in them too. Who would blame him? I mean other than you.

He's right. Iceland was the previous year's Happiest Country on Earth. One notable minority is actively trying to change that, however.

 

[Risky Thicket]

I watched a recent interview with Jordan Peterson's daughter, and a fellow Canadian of yours. She's had an autoimmune disorder since she was 4, is now 26 and said the Canadian healthcare system sucks. So she comes to America for treatment, specifically North Carolina, UNC Chapel Hill.

And that means, what? All people with autoimmune disorders should be seen only by physicians in US hospitals? What percentage of the staff at the autoimmune clinic at UNC are from foreign countries?

Surely you know the truth. Give it to us and document it.

 

[Risky Thicket]

He's right. Iceland was the previous year's Happiest Country on Earth. One notable minority is actively trying to change that, however.

You have me at a disadvantage. I'm not as bright as you. I'm less informed as well. What are you saying? Spell it out for me.

 

[Risky Thicket]

He's right. Iceland was the previous year's Happiest Country on Earth. One notable minority is actively trying to change that, however.

Damned ignorant non-white people, eh?

 

[apdst]

You have me at a disadvantage. I'm not as bright as you. I'm less informed as well. What are you saying? Spell it out for me.

Why are Liberals always raving about how all-white countries are the best countries to live in?

Explain that.

 

[truthatallcost]

And that means, what? All people with autoimmune disorders should be seen only by physicians in US hospitals? What percentage of the staff at the autoimmune clinic at UNC are from foreign countries?

Surely you know the truth. Give it to us and document it.

Canadians who can afford to do so, often seek treatment in the USA. I'm sure this isn't the first your hearing about this fact. Mikaila Peterson said that Canadian healthcare isn't bad if you're lucky enough to be relatively healthy, but its garbage if you've got some less common disease or disorder. She said there's no incentive for doctors to master a specialty in treating disorders like hers, because it wouldn't benefit them financially to do so anyway. As it turns out, capitalism can, and often does breed competition for acquiring knowledge and skills that set you apart from other people in your field. When the financial incentives that can accompany precise knowledge and capabilities in a very narrow category evaporate, doctors tend to lose the motivation to expand their expertise past the general practitioner level.
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The necessity of foreign doctors in the US probably has something to do with the fact that we have so many foreigners here period, don't you think? Since the 80's, we've gained 100 million people, mostly from foreign origins. So who's going to treat them? Uh...foreign doctors.

I don't know the percentage of foreign doctors operating at UNC Chapel Hill. You can Google that if you like.

 

[truthatallcost]

Damned ignorant non-white people, eh?

American actually,

I couldn't imagine moving to Japan, and then telling the Japanese how they need to change their country, like some narcissistic jerk ass.

 

[HenryChinaski]

American actually,

I couldn't imagine moving to Japan, and then telling the Japanese how they need to change their country, like some narcissistic jerk ass.

Oh that’s right, you’re the guy that doesn’t like Jews!

 

[Mongidig]

Why are Liberals always raving about how all-white countries are the best countries to live in?

Explain that.

Maybe the white nationalist's are on to something.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Why are Liberals always raving about how all-white countries are the best countries to live in?

Explain that.

I wasn't aware that they were making an ethnic distinction. I aware that you are.

 

[Risky Thicket]

Maybe the white nationalist's are on to something.

Meth?

 

[apdst]

I wasn't aware that they were making an ethnic distinction. I aware that you are.

You aware that what? :lamo

 

[Mongidig]

There is no mention as to how high the bar is set for happiness. I have a feeling that we are mistaking comfort for happiness. I'm sure those people are comfortable with their mediocre healthcare and their mediocre wages and mediocre lifestyles etc. Here in the US we have the opportunity to move way past mediocrity and experience happiness at a much higher level.

I'm sure there are lots of people in North Korea who are pretty happy. However, they have no idea what they are missing out on. I'm pretty sure that's what we are dealing with in these rankings.

I also feel bad when these countries run out of money because then they will be on the top ten SAD list.

 

[Common Sense 1]

Why would all citizens having their healthcare covered 100% and living a comfortable life make them happier though?

Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care
Finnish Government Collapses Due to Rising Cost of Universal Health Care

March 8, 2019

The government of Finland collapsed Friday due to the rising cost of universal health care and the prime minister's failure to enact reforms to the system.

Prime Minister Juha Sipila and the rest of the cabinet resigned after the governing coalition failed to pass reforms in parliament to the country's regional government and health services, the Wall Street Journal reports. Finland faces an aging population, with around 26 percent of its citizens expected to be over 65 by the year 2030, an increase of 5 percent from today.