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Why not adoption/foster care?

If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. Actually, you don't have to be that smart to understand that.

Actually, there were plenty of occasions I had sex, always using birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Guess what, I never got pregnant. Funny how well that worked out, don't you think?
 
There is no Debate 101. I am not required to chase my tail for trolls. You want the verse? Look it up.

So, it doesn't exist. I understand.

And, yeah there is a debate 101. In fact, more than one. Google it, you'll find lots of results.
 
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People are leaving the mainline protestant denominations in droves because they've dropped their Christian principles. So my point remains. No Christian denomination supports abortion. God didn't change His mind.

I proved you wrong.
 
People are leaving the mainline protestant denominations in droves because they've dropped their Christian principles. So my point remains. No Christian denomination supports abortion. God didn't change His mind.

God approves of abortion.


I have spoken
 
Not if you discount those who don't follow all the tenets, which is far more than half.

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What makes you think people in other religions follow their tenets more? Lol
 
Actually, there were plenty of occasions I had sex, always using birth control to prevent unwanted pregnancy. Guess what, I never got pregnant. Funny how well that worked out, don't you think?
The only two times I've gotten pregnant in over 20 years of sexual activity is from the times when my husband and I were not taking any precautions, using no birth control of any type to prevent. And I'm from a very fertile family. I have two sons.

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What makes you think people in other religions follow their tenets more? Lol
I'm not claiming they do. I'm saying you can't provide any sort of reliable information on what religion anyone is with such a subjective and restrictive condition of they aren't really x religion if they don't follow the tenets of that religion. You have no litmus to test who is or isn't actually following the tenets, especially not ones viewed as required tenets of that religion.

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What makes you think people in other religions follow their tenets more? Lol

Evangelicals talk very big about their godliness being greater than the sinners of other religions. Turns out their talk is cheap

The Scandal of the Evangelical Conscience

A Sociologist of Religion on Protestants, Porn, and the “Purity Industrial Complex” | The New Yorker

The racial demons that help explain evangelical support for Trump - Vox

So much for Christian charity: Evangelicals blame the poor for poverty, which makes them a lot like other Republicans | Salon.com

They don't fare well on tolerance, divorce, adultery, teen pregnancy either. The biblical command “A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:” is generally ignored and replaced by blind faith.
 
For the record: Zygote, Blastocyst, Embryo, Fetus.

Most abortions by God happen in the first two stages. Most abortions by man happen in the third. Rare are any in the last stage.

I agree, except for the idea that a god/s has anything to do with them.
 
You are really delusional. Something's not right. It's there in black and white, and you claim it isn't. What's the point in talking to you?

I posted your quote 'in black and white." See post 1072. And yet you continue to lie about it...unrepentant. You know that that means right?

Give my regards to Satan :mrgreen:





This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
The bible doesn't mention the word abortion, but there are scriptures passages that show the sanctity and valuation of unborn life. Anyone who is interested can look them up. I don't play the chase-the-tail game with leftwingers. Notice also the bible doesn't say a thing about thermonuclear war. According to you, the bible allows it, I suppose.

Yes here's one that clearly shows the Lord doesnt value the unborn more than a snail's trail:

Psalms 58:8 "Let them be as a snail which melts away as it goes along, like the miscarriages of a woman which never see the sun."




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
What is logical is not listening to those like you who did in fact get taught the ridiculous ideals of sex only for procreation and that birth control is irresponsible. Even the Catholic Church itself supports an idea of natural family planning, aka natural birth control.

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According to another extremist Catholic on this forum, married couples should not have sex unless they want to produce a child. Every sex act should be with the intention of having a child...or not have sex. EMN Seattle has been clear on that.

So if you can only afford 2 kids...no more sex after that. Even the rhythm method fails sometimes.

It's insane, to the level of cult following.




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
Huh? If you don't want something to happen, then you don't do the thing that makes it happen. What could be more logical than that? Unless you're a leftwinger of course.

I don't want to be in a car accident, that doesn't mean I never ride in a car. It means I take precautions to prevent or minimize those accidents. If an accident happens, I also do not have to accept whatever happens to me as "well thats what I get". No, I can do things to change the situation, including allowing medical attention, surgeries, rehabilitation, etc, whatever works for me.

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Aaaannndddd he's done. Even if he returns here, he's done. His bumper sticker destroyed.

Cheers!




This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
They don't fare well on tolerance, divorce, adultery, teen pregnancy either. The biblical command “A wise man will hear, and will increase learning; and a man of understanding shall attain unto wise counsels:” is generally ignored and replaced by blind faith.

I once had a discussion with a Pentecostal woman - I had been to her church a couple times. We were talking about divorce. She said God only allows it for adultery. I asked her what about abuse? She said adultery only. I never went back to that church.
 
I once had a discussion with a Pentecostal woman - I had been to her church a couple times. We were talking about divorce. She said God only allows it for adultery. I asked her what about abuse? She said adultery only. I never went back to that church.

That simultaneously scary and sad. It's hard to think about a whole church full of women that think abuse is OK. What dark lies are hidden there.
 
That simultaneously scary and sad. It's hard to think about a whole church full of women that think abuse is OK. What dark lies are hidden there.

This is what happens when the true message is lost after men do the interpreting and the writing, including in the Bible.





This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa
 
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