Why not adoption/foster care?

[roguenuke]

Nobody had to tell me something that is 100% logical to all intelligent people. If you don't want to get pregnant, don't have sex. Actually, you don't have to be that smart to understand that.

What is logical is not listening to those like you who did in fact get taught the ridiculous ideals of sex only for procreation and that birth control is irresponsible. Even the Catholic Church itself supports an idea of natural family planning, aka natural birth control.

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[maquiscat]

A silly insult besides your being unable to add. Or are you making fun of yourself?

So you are now so sensitive that my stating how long I have been married is an insult? And what is there to add? I have been with the woman with whom I have a legal marriage certificate for 20 years. About 8 years ago we got married to our other husband and wife. And for the record, before all them, I was married to the woman who is the bio mother of my children for 10 years.

 

[vegas giants]

Very sad for the pedos in families. Yes.

You misspelled church. Lol

 

[roguenuke]

You're trying to claim non-practicing Catholics like Nancy Pelosi are actual Catholics. They aren't.

Yes they are. You don't get to decide what religion others are, they do.

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[Mashmont]

What is logical is not listening to those like you who did in fact get taught the ridiculous ideals of sex only for procreation and that birth control is irresponsible. Even the Catholic Church itself supports an idea of natural family planning, aka natural birth control.

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If you don't want children, don't have sex. It's the most basic piece of logic. If you don't want something to happen, don't do the thing that causes it to happen.

 

[maquiscat]

Glad you recognized they weren't real Christians. Good for you. You're learning.

I called your false claim that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a false Christian.

 

[roguenuke]

The real problem I have is the sophisticated system the church developed for protecting pedophiles. That went all the way to the top.


And they have never been held accountable

I have no issue with condemning those in the church, especially at the top, for protecting pedophiles. I have an issue with condemning all for those things, especially simply followers who had nothing to do with it.

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[vegas giants]

Nobody's protecting the atheist gay infiltrators except in the public schools where they're simply moved around. Even to this day. The RCC weeded out those people long ago.

Fake news

 

[Mashmont]

Yes they are. You don't get to decide what religion others are, they do.

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If you don't follow the tenets of a religion, you don't subscribe to that religion. Again, basic logic. Being pro-life is the cornerstone of the Catholic Faith. If you disagree with that position, you are not a practicing Catholic.

 

[roguenuke]

It's just simple etiquette. You shouldn't have to be told not to be rude.

Maybe you should review some of your past posts just in this thread before making such a comment.

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[Mashmont]

I called your false claim that anyone who doesn't agree with you is a false Christian.

Anyone who disagrees with Christian teaching is a fake Christian, yes. Glad you recognize that.

 

[roguenuke]

If you don't want children, don't have sex. It's the most basic piece of logic. If you don't want something to happen, don't do the thing that causes it to happen.

No, that is your belief. It isn't logic at all since sex serves other purposes.

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[Mashmont]

No, that is your belief. It isn't logic at all since sex serves other purposes.

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Huh? If you don't want something to happen, then you don't do the thing that makes it happen. What could be more logical than that? Unless you're a leftwinger of course.

 

[vegas giants]

Huh? If you don't want something to happen, then you don't do the thing that makes it happen. What could be more logical than that? Unless you're a leftwinger of course.

Or just get an abortion!

 

[Scrabaholic]

No Christian denomination says abortion is permissible

This is a lie.

On the other side of the debate, a number of religious groups, including the United Church of Christ, the Unitarian Universalist Association and the two largest American Jewish movements – Reform and Conservative Judaism – favor a woman’s right to have an abortion with few or no exceptions.

Many of the nation’s largest mainline Protestant denominations – including the Episcopal Church, the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) and the Methodists – also support abortion rights, although several of these churches temper this support with the call for some limits on when a woman can terminate her pregnancy. For instance, while the Episcopal Church opposes statutory limits on abortion, it teaches that “it should be used only in extreme situations.”

Where major religious groups stand on abortion | Pew Research Center

Also, the United Church of Canada is pro choice. And there is the Religious Coalition for Reproductive choice. Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice – Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice

 

[Scrabaholic]

You don't know how to google? That's not a sign of intelligence.

In debate, it is up to those making the claim to prove it. Debate 101.

 

[Scrabaholic]

Merriam Webster defines baby as an unborn person. We've shown that repeatedly. Why do you continue to lie?

There is no such thing as an unborn person. Persons are born. So MW is wrong.

 

[roguenuke]

Huh? If you don't want something to happen, then you don't do the thing that makes it happen. What could be more logical than that? Unless you're a leftwinger of course.

I don't want to be in a car accident, that doesn't mean I never ride in a car. It means I take precautions to prevent or minimize those accidents. If an accident happens, I also do not have to accept whatever happens to me as "well thats what I get". No, I can do things to change the situation, including allowing medical attention, surgeries, rehabilitation, etc, whatever works for me.

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[Scrabaholic]

You're trying to claim non-practicing Catholics like Nancy Pelosi are actual Catholics. They aren't.

Then you'd agree that there aren't nearly as many Catholics or Christians in general as statistics say there are? That it is not the world's largest religion?

 

[roguenuke]

If you don't follow the tenets of a religion, you don't subscribe to that religion. Again, basic logic. Being pro-life is the cornerstone of the Catholic Faith. If you disagree with that position, you are not a practicing Catholic.

Again, you dont get to determine who is or isn't of a religion. They do, regardless of your feelings on their folloeing of tenets.

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[Mashmont]

In debate, it is up to those making the claim to prove it. Debate 101.

There is no Debate 101. I am not required to chase my tail for trolls. You want the verse? Look it up.

 

[Mashmont]

Again, you dont get to determine who is or isn't of a religion. They do, regardless of your feelings on their folloeing of tenets.

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I sure do, and I just did.

 

[Mashmont]

Then you'd agree that there aren't nearly as many Catholics or Christians in general as statistics say there are? That it is not the world's largest religion?

The RCC is indeed the world's largest religion.

 

[Mashmont]

Maybe you should review some of your past posts just in this thread before making such a comment.

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Maybe you should review yours.

 

[Mashmont]

This is a lie.



Also, the United Church of Canada is pro choice. And there is the Religious Coalition for Reproductive choice. Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice – Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice

People are leaving the mainline protestant denominations in droves because they've dropped their Christian principles. So my point remains. No Christian denomination supports abortion. God didn't change His mind.