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Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

Why is the uncovering of the Epstein files so important?

  • Because the innocent victims must be protected?

    Votes: 13 37.1%

  • Because the DNC needs something, anything, to use against Trump for next November?

    Votes: 10 28.6%

  • Because "the people" need to see everything regardless of who is damaged by it?

    Votes: 17 48.6%

  • Because the rich and famous who visited Epstein's island are all pedophiles who deserve punishment?

    Votes: 12 34.3%

  • Because anyone who stepped foot on Epstein's island is guilty of sexual abuse?

    Votes: 3 8.6%

  • Because Biden did nothing with those files for four years?

    Votes: 3 8.6%
  • Total voters
    35
StillBallin75 said:
Right wingers ever since Epstein died:

RELEASE THE LIST!!

Right wingers ever since they realized Trump might be in em:

WHY IS THE DNC GRASPING

Lol you people are ****ing pathetic. What happened to Save the Children? What happened to Woodchipper your local pedophile?
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That lot is making themselves SO obvious. I can only think of Shakespeare:

The phrase "thou protest too much" or "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" (a more accurate rendering from Shakespeare's Hamlet) means someone is denying something with excessive vehemence, which leads others to suspect their claim is not truthful. It suggests that the intensity of the denial indicates a hidden truth or guilt.
 
Why should people not hold Trump accountable for his promises?

He said during his campaign that he would release the files.

That being said, I highly doubt we will see those files, too many people of prominence are implicated, Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, I am sure there are many others.

Epstien was garbage that trafficked women, and underage girls. Anyone associated should go to prison. Anyone disagree?
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
That lot is making themselves SO obvious. I can only think of Shakespeare:

The phrase "thou protest too much" or "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" (a more accurate rendering from Shakespeare's Hamlet) means someone is denying something with excessive vehemence, which leads others to suspect their claim is not truthful. It suggests that the intensity of the denial indicates a hidden truth or guilt.
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The funny thing is that it was always obvious to anyone paying attention who wasn't in the cult that Epstein's best friend for 10 years was probably all over the files cause there's dozens of picture of them together, but they somehow must mental gymnasticked their way out of ever considering the truth as a possibility, preferring to just make shit up about Hillary Clinton and pizza parlors in DC.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Oh when the thinking that Mr. Clinton's name was supposedly mentioned as being prevalent therein, I was indifferent about it being released. It would have been nice I suppose.

But it also would have been destructive to innocent people. So- no drum beats by me.
Progressives also has no great desire to release either at the time.
And as we now see it was to protect - their- guy and not because of any concern of collateral damage.
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"Bongino wrote, "During my tenure here as the Deputy Director of the FBI, I have repeatedly relayed to you that things are happening that might not be immediately visible, but they are happening. The Director and I are committed to stamping out public corruption and the political weaponization of both law enforcement and intelligence operations. It is a priority for us. But what I have learned in the course of our properly predicated and necessary investigations into these aforementioned matters, has shocked me down to my core."



 
SNOWFLAKE said:
OMG, so defensive. Redact the names of the victims. Simple.

Was was was. Everyone who isn't a Rightie can see right thru the excuses. Was was was. We are talking about releasing those files NOW and the reasons Righties suddenly don't want them released. Not hard to guess at why NOW they don't want them released.
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Not simply victims.
But other people would have been there who had nothing to do with anything. I guess their names could be redacted as well, but that would not solve any of the political problems.
 
SNOWFLAKE said:
That lot is making themselves SO obvious. I can only think of Shakespeare:

The phrase "thou protest too much" or "the lady doth protest too much, methinks" (a more accurate rendering from Shakespeare's Hamlet) means someone is denying something with excessive vehemence, which leads others to suspect their claim is not truthful. It suggests that the intensity of the denial indicates a hidden truth or guilt.
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Shrug.
Like as been said, if Trump is somehow implicated thetein, Maxwell and/or Biden would have used the information.

Just trying to he'p you folks out.
 
The choices on this poll are pretty slanted - for example, I won't say the rich who landed on Epstein's island are "all" pedophiles, but if I were a betting man...

It is a valid criticism that Biden did sit on these files, just like Trump. It's "Eyes Wide Shut" out there. The MAGA people thought Trump was different and they're getting a nasty dose of reality - pick any billionaire you want to vote for, and he'll still be treating you like meat for his table!

We should bear in mind that pedophiles are superior to ordinary folk for political purposes. If you're a donor and you have a kiddie porn video of somebody abusing a child, you know - you absolutely KNOW - that that is someone who will do exactly what you want, whenever you want. So there's no reason not to trust him with money and power and a high office. And remember: if the pedo is richer than you, he's better than you, because this is America.
 
Athanasius68 said:
Shrug.
Like as been said, if Trump is somehow implicated thetein, Maxwell and/or Biden would have used the information.

Just trying to he'p you folks out.
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It's maga that needs help, they've been voting for a child rapist.
 
BitterPill said:
They weren't children.

More underage, conniving women whose lives were changed for the better by a real Man's love.

MAGA.
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I saw South Park. I saw the "love" he brings to the table for women. No wonder he has to use violence or money to get laid.
 
Jason Warfield said:
Epstein was a known sex trafficker.

People who have power, have access to power and are connected to Epstein should be investigated. I don't care what party they are from, where they fall on the political spectrum, etc. If Bill Clinton is investigated and it is found he needs to be charged and if found guilty...then he needs to rot in jail. Clinton is just one example. But I think you get the point that for most of us, this about justice for crimes.

And I would think that if a sitting president is being mentioned in files kept by a sex trafficker, you would want that clarified ASAP one way and the other. And let's be honest here, ok...

If this was about Obama or Biden when they were sitting presidents, you would be screaming bloody-murder if they handled this the way Trump has and you would be right to do so. So, spare us the victimhood.
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Yup.
Trump, Clinton, Ashton Kutcher, Charlie Sheen, Diddy, Prince Andrew, and the list goes on
 
Greenbeard said:
Then you probably didn’t need to worry so much that bringing pedophiles to justice will “hurt Trump.”
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Basically, you're right.
Unless there is incontrovertible evidence that Trump engaged in sex abuse with underage minors, Trump will not be indicted or even accused of being a pedophile.
 
spud_meister said:
Yeah, I do. The paedophile conspiracy stuff has been going for almost a decade (Pizzagate was 9 years ago, jesus christ!), and Trump needs the conspiracy stuff to bring in otherwise apathetic voters.
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You give voters a lot more credit than I do.
With 16 months before the mid-terms it is doubtful this Epstein scandal will have any weight on either party come next November.
People have short memories and have greater interest in pocketbook issues than a dead sex offender.
 
daeler said:
Why should people not hold Trump accountable for his promises?

He said during his campaign that he would release the files.

That being said, I highly doubt we will see those files, too many people of prominence are implicated, Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, I am sure there are many others.

Epstien was garbage that trafficked women, and underage girls. Anyone associated should go to prison. Anyone disagree?
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Yes, I disagree.
What does "associated" mean? Like been on the same plane with others going to the storied island? Like playing golf with someone who actually sexually interacted with a female whose age would be undetermined?
 
Crakhobarbie said:
Only certain people have no faith in the msm.
But those folks are mostly unwilling or unable to discern between whats reasonable and what's fabricated.
You'd be amazed at how many folks, in this day and age, still believe in supernatural beings, ghosts and angels. The gullible in one arena, are usually gullible in other arenas.
Its the reason that maga and religion go hand in hand. Because they both require a disconnect from reality in order to participate.
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“Certain people”? What do you consider “certain people”?
The fact is, many American’s have lost trust in the MSM, and for good reason.
 
jaypatriot said:
People have short memories and have greater interest in pocketbook issues than a dead sex offender.
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MAGAs aren't showing signs of it. Much will depend on when, and what, Donald finally releases. The longer he delays the worse it looks.
 
jaypatriot said:
Yes, I disagree.
What does "associated" mean? Like been on the same plane with others going to the storied island? Like playing golf with someone who actually sexually interacted with a female whose age would be undetermined?
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I thought it was fairly obvious, "anyone associated with trafficking those women" 🤷‍♂️
 
It's like any other vice crime, be it drugs, sex, bootleg products.

They already have one person convicted on the supply side of the vice, now they need to pursue charges on the demand side.
With no demand, there is no supply. You can continue to take out the supply side all you want, but until you stop the demand for the product, someone else will step in that thinks they are smarter or have better connections to protect themselves.
And I care not whose name get connected.
 
daeler said:
I thought it was fairly obvious, "anyone associated with trafficking those women" 🤷‍♂️
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Again, what does "associated" mean?
Does that mean someone is, ipso facto, guilty of human trafficking because a person was on the same plane or on the same golf course as a sex offender?
Don't details matter? Or is it so much easier to say "If someone happened to be in the same room as an indicted sex offender, that person is also guilty of human trafficking of underage girls"?
Forget the sordid details of who did what to whom. We only need hearsay 'evidence' to convict someone of abusing underage girls.
Is that your form of justice once you know the name of someone you don't know or don't like?
 
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