Why do Republicans have such a rabid hatred for Hillary???

[Lovebug]

They have hated this woman since she was the first lady trying to fix our healthcare crisis.

So what is it about her that triggers them so much?

Is it that she is a strong intelligent woman who is not spending her life barefoot and pregnant doing he dishes.

Or does she just scare the **** out of them???

Thoughts?

It isn't hatred at all, at least not for me. Hillary doesn't come across as a personal, warm, inviting person, but rather very calculated, distant.

 

[ecofarm]

Hillary doesn't come across as a personal, warm, inviting person, but rather very calculated, distant.

So... Politician. Aside from John McCain, what politician has ever come across so? Maybe Bush 2, but that's only because we (mistakenly) figure we could outsmart him if necessary.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

They have an empty bag of Sondlands and they know they will lose which is why the are left holding the bag

I assumed
I presumed
I speculated
I guessed
I figured
I thought
I danced the jig
I consulted a psychic
The Ouigi board said so
A democrat told me


Put all those in a bag and you have nothing when you empty it out. I call it a bag of Sondlands

Nah, but it's fun to watch you pretend otherwise.

Sad that you fear reality so pathologically.

 

[Fletch]

MAGA = Nationalism. Nationalists hate. It's what they do.

Thats an embarrassingly stupid answer. C'mon Chomsky, you are the last rational liberal on this site. Dont blow it now.

 

[Lovebug]

So... Politician. Aside from John McCain, what politician has ever come across so? Maybe Bush 2, but that's just because we (mistakenly) figure we could outsmart him if necessary.

I would love to go fishing with GW, have a beer with Obama, have a chat with Bernie about this or that, have coffee with Tulsi, wine with Buttigieg...I could find something in common with them all. Hillary, esp as one who speaks for women, just isn't for me

 

[Chomsky]

Hate's hate.

I'll try to respect this, Lovebug. I do get the point you're making.

 

[Paradoxical]

Nah, but it's fun to watch you pretend otherwise.

Sad that you fear reality so pathologically.

Sad the way the left is punching at the wind and grasping straws in a roiling ocean cause they are drowning. Nancy is holding a bag of losers. ASSUMPTIONS aren't proof. Better luck in the future.

 

[Lovebug]

They have hated this woman since she was the first lady trying to fix our healthcare crisis.

So what is it about her that triggers them so much?

Is it that she is a strong intelligent woman who is not spending her life barefoot and pregnant doing he dishes.

Or does she just scare the **** out of them???

Thoughts?

It isn't hatred at all, at least not for me.

 

[Chomsky]

I would love to go fishing with GW, have a beer with Obama, have a chat with Bernie about this or that, have coffee with Tulsi, wine with Buttigieg...I could find something in common with them all. Hillary, esp as one who speaks for women, just isn't for me

Haha! That's kinda' the way I feel!

 

[ecofarm]

I would love to go fishing with GW, have a beer with Obama, have a chat with Bernie about this or that, have coffee with Tulsi, wine with Buttigieg...I could find something in common with them all. Hillary, esp as one who speaks for women, just isn't for me

Personal, warm and inviting. Not distant and calculating. Any polished politician is distant and calculating. I say no on Obama, Bernie and the rest. Have a beer? Sure. Personal, warm and inviting while not calculating and distant? All guilty as charged.

Maybe Yang.

 

[Kerry Won Ohio]

They have hated this woman since she was the first lady trying to fix our healthcare crisis.

So what is it about her that triggers them so much?

Is it that she is a strong intelligent woman who is not spending her life barefoot and pregnant doing he dishes.

Or does she just scare the **** out of them???

Thoughts?

If you ask most Trump cultists, they can't really tell you why they hate Hillary Clinton. Obviously, nothing that she has done during her life is nearly as egregious as the corrupt, racist, traitorous acts that Trump has performed.

They've been conditioned to behave this way, like Pavlov's dogs.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Sad the way the left is punching at the wind and grasping straws in a roiling ocean cause they are drowning. Nancy is holding a bag of losers. ASSUMPTIONS aren't proof. Better luck in the future.

Sorry that you were forced to back away from your asinine claims.

 

[Lovebug]

Personal, warm and inviting. Not distant and calculating. Any polished politician is distant and calculating. I say no on Obama, Bernie and the rest. Have a beer? Sure. Personal, warm and inviting while not calculating and distant? All guilty as charged.

Maybe Yang.

We can only go by how the come across, since most of us won't have a chance to meet them on a personal level. You are right, they are politicians, but some things can't be faked and polished.

 

[Lovebug]

If you ask most Trump cultists, they can't really tell you why they hate Hillary Clinton. Obviously, nothing that she has done during her life is nearly as egregious as the corrupt, racist, traitorous acts that Trump has performed.

They've been conditioned to behave this way, like Pavlov's dogs.

You could argue that they don't hate Hillary at all, and Trump's is ringing the bell and makes the left drool on demand.

 

[ecofarm]

We can only go by how the come across, since most of us won't have a chance to meet them on a personal level. You are right, they are politicians, but some things can't be faked and polished.

I'm gonna stick to my guns. McCain alone. And maybe Yang, we'll see. If you present someone else that I feel fits the qualifications, I'd be happy to let ya know.

 

[Lovebug]

I'm gonna stick to my guns. McCain alone. And maybe Yang, we'll see. If you present someone else that I feel fits the qualifications, I'd be happy to let ya know.

What was the question again? How to get acquainted with John's ghost?

 

[ecofarm]

What was the question again? How to get acquainted with John's ghost?

A politician that is personal, warm, inviting and not calculated or distant.

 

[Chomsky]

Thats an embarrassingly stupid answer. C'mon Chomsky, you are the last rational liberal on this site. Dont blow it now.

I expounded a bit in my follow-up posts interspersed in the thread. But to sum it up, there is indeed a hateful component to MAGA - even as MAGA itself is only a subset of Trump supporters.

But before you go against my statement in blanket fashion, take a look at nationalism throughout history. There has always been a hate component in nationalism, and it often erupts into atrocities.

 

[marke]

They have hated this woman since she was the first lady trying to fix our healthcare crisis.

So what is it about her that triggers them so much?

Is it that she is a strong intelligent woman who is not spending her life barefoot and pregnant doing he dishes.

Or does she just scare the **** out of them???

Thoughts?

She showed her true colors in the early 1990s when she showed open animosity toward US military personnel and not always hidden disrespect for blacks. That was just a small portion of her hateful personality.

 

[Paradoxical]

Sorry that you were forced to back away from your asinine claims.

Really how so? That Trump is not impeached per your own scholar?

 

[Lovebug]

I expounded a bit in my follow-up posts interspersed in the thread. But to sum it up, there is indeed a hateful component to MAGA - even as MAGA itself is only a subset of Trump supporters.

But before you go against my statement in blanket fashion, take a look at nationalism throughout history. There has always been a hate component in nationalism, and it often erupts into atrocities.

Perhaps not a hateful component, but rather smugness, simply because of being heard instead of disregarded.

 

[Tanngrisnir]

Really how so? That Trump is not impeached per your own scholar?

twump's been impeached, no matter how tightly you clench your tiny fists in impotent rage. That collar is going to hang around his neck forever.

Sorry you can't accept that basic reality.

 

[Craig234]

They have hated this woman since she was the first lady trying to fix our healthcare crisis.

So what is it about her that triggers them so much?

Is it that she is a strong intelligent woman who is not spending her life barefoot and pregnant doing he dishes.

Or does she just scare the **** out of them???

Thoughts?

You know, it's interesting, there's usually a hint of a legitimate gripe somewhere around their hatred of her.

It started when as first lady, she took a 'co-president' role (and to be fair, Bill Clinton said she would in the campaign), which does raise some eyebrows about the elected president having family play policy roles (as it does with trump's nepotism - except to the hypocritical trump cult).

So when she was going to Congress as the administration's leader on healthcare reform, not only did they have all the usual corrupt reasons to oppose her efforts, but that was not a traditional role for a first lady. There was resentment. Some misogyny? No doubt - but muddied.

She's also simply a representative of the 'corrupt' side of the Democratic Party, an easy target as the Clintons have gotten hundreds of millions of dollars and hob-nobbed with the jet setters (including the immune-to-criticism trump) and Wall Street interests, while Clinton did a lot of harm deregulating Wall Street.

She has a long list of problems - on character, it's lying about dodging bullets on a trip as Secretary of State (nevermind trump's over 10,000 lies); her sociopathic laughter over the killing of Qadafi she was largely behind, her corrupt support of the Honduras coup - nevermind how Republicans support these same corrupt things but far worse.

And then I think she's especially seen as 'blindly ambitious', conniving - where yes, the reactions to those things is magnified over a man having the same flaws, but there is that nugget of truth it's off-putting in either gender. Men, too, have to 'pretend' not to just be grubbing for money and power, even if not as much. But I think a root is the feeling she began seeking power by 'using' her marriage to an elected leader.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

There's a reason why we, as a society, have to help older folks in our country avoid scams. Email scams. Financial scams. Internet scams. Political scams.

Google search for a film called "The Brainwashing of my Dad".

 

[Fletch]

I expounded a bit in my follow-up posts interspersed in the thread. But to sum it up, there is indeed a hateful component to MAGA - even as MAGA itself is only a subset of Trump supporters.

But before you go against my statement in blanket fashion, take a look at nationalism throughout history. There has always been a hate component in nationalism, and it often erupts into atrocities.

The dislike on the right for Hillary predates MAGA by a full generation.