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Why are only male "incels" ridiculed?

Incels have company. "Straight" marchers! (mostly male)
 
Rich2018 said:
So what, I don't understand what incel means and I suspect neither did your example. There are cases of many people who claim to be something they're not.

You said in post #103 that an incel is a man. So I'm asking you that the term is limited to males?


I asked if being an incel was simply a male (since post #103 discounts females) who has a mental disorder that is treatable.
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It has already explained earlier in the thread the reason it's unlikely there are female incels because they can easily obtain a relationship and they are not as concerned. If you can show me otherwise then I'll accept.
 
AProudLefty said:
It has already explained earlier in the thread the reason it's unlikely there are female incels because they can easily obtain a relationship and they are not as concerned. If you can show me otherwise then I'll accept.
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Perhaps in the Victorian age males initiated relationships. We've moved on a bit since them.

OK there are some confused, socially awkward young men who in the USA have easy access to firearms.

Are you aware of any incel help groups?
 
Rich2018 said:
Perhaps in the Victorian age males initiated relationships. We've moved on a bit since them.

OK there are some confused, socially awkward young men who in the USA have easy access to firearms.

Are you aware of any incel help groups?
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Dating sites? LOL. I'm kidding. Or was I? :shock:

I have a theory for some of them, not all of them. Some of them might have latent homosexuality which causes apparent rejection by women.
 
AProudLefty said:
Dating sites? LOL. I'm kidding. Or was I? :shock:

I have a theory for some of them, not all of them. Some of them might have latent homosexuality which causes apparent rejection by women.
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You mean like zombies in World War Z not biting people who're infected ?
 
Rich2018 said:
You mean like zombies in World War Z not biting people who're infected ?
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Hey I like that explanation! I mean from what I hear sometimes women can tell when a guy is "off" so their bodies and minds involuntarily reject outright, thus feeding more into their delusion.
 
Rich2018 said:
So a disqualification as an incel.

How about Susan Boyle ? I understand that, when presented with her picture, prospective suicide bombers found the prophet's promise of 72 virgins less appealing.
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Ah... the farce is strong in this one...
 
There has to be a problem for there to be "fault". The only problem I have is seeing others have their their lunch eaten. Not caring and not being thirsty for social approval solves so many problems.

How many times have you worked uncompensated overtime to "take one for the team"? I guess if a Director can find socially "thirsty" people, it's a good way to get free labor instead of hiring an extra person.

Lursa said:
It's incredibly sad that that is your experience. It is not mine. At all.

Perhaps you should reexamine why that is for you? Is *everyone else* at fault?

Seriously...that's the 'incel mantra.'
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Withstanding social ostracization should be recognized as a kind of toughness. Being tough is something to be proud of. It opens up a freedom to see circumstances for what they are without the social smokescreen.

ashurbanipal said:
Surprisingly, something you and I agree upon. The sad fact is that our society does a piss poor job of teaching boys how to become men, and hence how to interact with women (by first recognizing that women are not mythical and mysterious creatures, but actually human beings). Very few individuals, of any sex, can withstand social ostracization, and it is a terrible thing that human beings in our society who want an intimate sexual and romantic connection with another human being are not only unable to form such a connection, but face insults and ridicule from others.

There are more male than female incels, I think, but both exist, and we really should be figuring out how to bring them back into society and how to heal what is within them that is keeping them alone and lonely, and how to find that connection.
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AProudLefty said:
Dating sites? LOL. I'm kidding. Or was I? :shock:

I have a theory for some of them, not all of them. Some of them might have latent homosexuality which causes apparent rejection by women.
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Women tend to be more attracted to at least openly homosexual men not repulsed by them.

I expect the incels are more along the lines of low level psychopaths who trigger a fear response in women who sense it from them. The one in Dayton was in a grind porno heavy metal band what ever that was.

In the past these psychos would have joined the military and got themselves killed in a war. Much fewer deaths in wars for the US now, so they take it out on the general public.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Women tend to be more attracted to at least openly homosexual men not repulsed by them.

I expect the incels are more along the lines of low level psychopaths who trigger a fear response in women who sense it from them. The one in Dayton was in a grind porno heavy metal band what ever that was.

In the past these psychos would have joined the military and got themselves killed in a war. Much fewer deaths in wars for the US now, so they take it out on the general public.
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Women tend to feel less threatened by openly homosexual men.
 
SDET said:
There has to be a problem for there to be "fault". The only problem I have is seeing others have their their lunch eaten. Not caring and not being thirsty for social approval solves so many problems.

How many times have you worked uncompensated overtime to "take one for the team"? I guess if a Director can find socially "thirsty" people, it's a good way to get free labor instead of hiring an extra person.
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What the heck are you talking about?

And I've worked collaboratively for a team...and pulled up the slack for others many times. As they have done for me.

If your team mates dont have your back...who's fault is that?

How about sticking to the topic?
 
They say never a truer word said in jest.


I remember watching a video of some comedian on a New York stage recall the days he worked for a business. There was some problem in depositing the days takings of $10,000 so he took it home to deposit it the next day..

...as he rode the subway he thought how half the men aboard the train would willingly kill him for what he was carrying...

...then realized women live with that every day.
 
ashurbanipal said:
Surprisingly, something you and I agree upon. The sad fact is that our society does a piss poor job of teaching boys how to become men, and hence how to interact with women (by first recognizing that women are not mythical and mysterious creatures, but actually human beings). Very few individuals, of any sex, can withstand social ostracization, and it is a terrible thing that human beings in our society who want an intimate sexual and romantic connection with another human being are not only unable to form such a connection, but face insults and ridicule from others.

There are more male than female incels, I think, but both exist, and we really should be figuring out how to bring them back into society and how to heal what is within them that is keeping them alone and lonely, and how to find that connection.
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You don't have to be taught how to be a man, or a woman for that matter. There will always be both men and women who don't get their "fair" share of sex, for various reasons. Nothing new in that. Genetics does not care about "fairness". This is not a social problem at all.
 
devildavid said:
You don't have to be taught how to be a man, or a woman for that matter. There will always be both men and women who don't get their "fair" share of sex, for various reasons. Nothing new in that. Genetics does not care about "fairness". This is not a social problem at all.
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It is if incels take out their anger with a gun.
 
Rich2018 said:
WOW, they're socially awkward so kill as man people as possible.

Incels need help. I guess their easier access to guns in the USA gives them more attention.
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The worst of incels are terrorists and have acted as such.

I would be willing to bet a LOT of money that if incels and ISIL were compared side-by-side, the similarities would be remarkable.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Women tend to be more attracted to at least openly homosexual men not repulsed by them.

I expect the incels are more along the lines of low level psychopaths who trigger a fear response in women who sense it from them. The one in Dayton was in a grind porno heavy metal band what ever that was.

In the past these psychos would have joined the military and got themselves killed in a war. Much fewer deaths in wars for the US now, so they take it out on the general public.
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WTF Is Pornogrind? – Rolling Stone




Basically, it's some really weird **** involving bizarrely sexualized violent fantasies.
 
You would lose that bet. It's attitudes like yours that make them violent. More likely a good number of them wouldn't have become violent if someone had coached them into suing instead of reacting with violence to how they have been wronged. I wonder if anyone has successfully sued a school that didn't put a stop to bullying. Many of them if given time to think, would prefer driving around in a new car to becoming a convicted felon.

Phys251 said:
The worst of incels are terrorists and have acted as such.

I would be willing to bet a LOT of money that if incels and ISIL were compared side-by-side, the similarities would be remarkable.
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SDET said:
You would lose that bet. It's attitudes like yours that make them violent.
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Stopped reading right there. :)

Incels' number one failure is their failure to take personal responsibility. They are deluded into believing that it's always someone else's fault. Always women's fault. Society's fault. Feminists' fault. Interestingly they rarely blame their "competitor" men who actually take the time and effort to talk to women like the people that they are.
 
Phys251 said:
The worst of incels are terrorists and have acted as such.

I would be willing to bet a LOT of money that if incels and ISIL were compared side-by-side, the similarities would be remarkable.
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Do you mean ISIS ?
 
Phys251 said:
Stopped reading right there. :)

Incels' number one failure is their failure to take personal responsibility. They are deluded into believing that it's always someone else's fault. Always women's fault. Society's fault. Feminists' fault. Interestingly they rarely blame their "competitor" men who actually take the time and effort to talk to women like the people that they are.
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Probably a key element in most mass shootings - trying to make the world "pay"
 
Hence a lawsuit is a better result than a violent attack.

Rich2018 said:
Probably a key element in most mass shootings - trying to make the world "pay"
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