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White House doctor: Trump in 'excellent health'

Puigb said:
I've known people who didn't live exactly healthy lives live to really old age. And people who took care of themselves who died young.
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Of course but it still doesn't mean those who lived longer were in excellent health. And you're citing an exception to he rule to prove your point. Typically unhealthy living leads to an earlier death.

I had a grandmother that lived into her 90's but she was in terrible health. Just seemed to keep hanging on. Finally wasted away to nothing in a nursing home.

Had a father-in-law with a rare form of leukemia that was near death for months. His heart just would not give out.
 
Cardinal said:
Trump is obese, he eats fast food like a sixteen year old, and he believes exercise is bad for you because it drains the body’s “finite” energy resources.

Methinks the good doctor's reputation is going to take a hit after this. Either that or everybody is perfectly aware that you have to lie in the service of the President, and other doctors will roll their eyes and understand that Jackson had to give Trump a clean bill of health or be fired.
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You just can't accept that Trump is our president. Too funny. Talk about rationalization. Do you just make it up as you go along, or do you guys have a script?
 
Waddy said:
You just can't accept that Trump is our president. Too funny. Talk about rationalization. Do you just make it up as you go along, or do you guys have a script?
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You just joined this month and you're already up to 661 posts. You've certainly been a busy пчела.
 
Keep pigging out Trump. At 71, he's always only a Big Mac away from the famous line by Fred Sanford....

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It's da Big One!
 
PoS said:
I wonder why he eats two fillet o fish with the big macs? I kind of find the fish sandwich to be redundant. If he wants to get full just get another big mac in their place.
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Hey it's Surf and Turf!

1.) Trump believes he might be poisoned and ordering from McDonalds is safer for him.

2.) No normal human being sits down and eats all that food. It reminds me of that show "My 600 pound life." Those people however, seek medical help.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
Of course but it still doesn't mean those who lived longer were in excellent health. And you're citing an exception to he rule to prove your point. Typically unhealthy living leads to an earlier death.

I had a grandmother that lived into her 90's but she was in terrible health. Just seemed to keep hanging on. Finally wasted away to nothing in a nursing home.

Had a father-in-law with a rare form of leukemia that was near death for months. His heart just would not give out.
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i'm not disagreeing with you.
 
How Dr. Jackson addressed the health issue:

239 pounds, cardiac tests normal, colonoscopy results from 2013 still used, blood count and urinalysis are fine, no results indicating tobacco or alcohol use...

Said, "realistic goal over the next year or two is to lose 10 or 15 pounds."

Added, "The main thing we focused on in regards to lifestyle....was diet and exercise." "He falls into the category that portends...years of event-free living." "Some people just have great genes" (about his reputed diet heavy with fast food). In exhange with reporter, agrees President would be at "borderline obesity."

So, anyone here find anything objectionable, *besides* the bit where Jackson said the President scored "30 out of 30" on his cognitive screening (which is standard and hits Alzheimer's) and felt no concern? "If I had concerns about his cognitive ability I would bring that up to the proper people in the chain of command."



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If you could only see all the sad faces in the press room as Dr. Jackson describes Trump's excellent health including his mental health.
 
dobieg said:
If you could only see all the sad faces in the press room as Dr. Jackson describes Trump's excellent health including his mental health.
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It doesn't include mental health. It's a cognitive screening. The latter would address speculation about dementia and so forth.

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Fiddytree said:
It doesn't include mental health. It's a cognitive screening. The latter would address speculation about dementia and so forth.

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Do you think he is mentally ill? I ask as someone whom has had to deal with family members that suffered from mental illness in their lives, and believe me it isn't something that should be thrown around flippantly.
 
j-mac said:
Do you think he is mentally ill? I ask as someone whom has had to deal with family members that suffered from mental illness in their lives, and believe me it isn't something that should be thrown around flippantly.
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Mental illness is a massive, massive spectrum.

I'm mentally ill as soon as I get diagnosed with depression. When I was a child I fit in the Serious Emotionally Disturbed category, because I had chronic depression and an ongoing stress disorder. My family and extended family have (often) undiagnosed multi-generational depression and substance use disorders (alcoholism).

I work with kids and youth who have a mental health disorder and try to get them toward a successful adulthood. It's tough for them, it's tough for their families, and it's often tough to turn the ship around when a lot of bad stuff happens that's chemically going on or how the environment makes a lot of it much worse.

Yeah, I don't believe in throwing it around lightly and I don't believe in using it as a means to discredit someone without overwhelming proof that it's diagnosed and (the biggest thing for me) a problem. You certainly wouldn't see me using it as a means to tear someone down in real life either. If there's anything I could be accused of it's saying let these people tell their own stories and treat them with respect. Just like anyone else, they're trying to have a decent life and there's not a whole lot right with the way society treats them.

As such, I'm not on the "use the 25th on Trump" bandwagon. I'm a strong advocate against this narrative.

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Dr. Jackson, "Trump has great genetics"


"Might live to 200 with diet and exercise"(joking)
 
You could feel the disappointment from the press when the doctor discussed life expectancy. here's hoping he outlives all of those vile creatures.
 
dobieg said:
Yup but while the body might not work like it once did, that mischievous little boy in me still exists. As long as I always have my mind, I can deal with losing the other.
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All men are 19 years old in our own minds...:-)
 
Hey, I'm no Trump supporter, but I'll take the word of a Navy doctor who has examined him any day over somebody's opinion on TV.
 
j-mac said:
Do you think he is mentally ill? I ask as someone whom has had to deal with family members that suffered from mental illness in their lives, and believe me it isn't something that should be thrown around flippantly.
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No. I don't think he has any teeth cavities either. But how would I know? I haven't EXAMINED him, and I'm not a doctor. Either.
 
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Trump is a sexual tyrannosaurus who was born with Olympian genetics and likely will live another 50 years.
 
DickBanks said:
No. I don't think he has any teeth cavities either. But how would I know? I haven't EXAMINED him, and I'm not a doctor. Either.
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This is a two-three step issue.

1) An actual series of assessments with an actual diagnosis (instead of nothing or inconclusive)

2) An intense dialogue and procedural safeguards about what is or is not a barometer for being "fit to serve"

3) A respectful dialogue and understanding about the stigma surrounding mental health and how these high-profile discussions and those professionals engaging in it impact the 20% of Americans with some form of mental illness today.

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