White House doctor: Trump in 'excellent health'

[Cardinal]

Considering the subnarrative that has been floating regarding this particular evaluation, I believe that while you can intellectually do it, I don't believe that's been the thrust of it thus far.

The President's press office had to bat off any insistence for a mental health exam in *this examination,* which got the press typing ledes and the pundit class especially riled.

Do I think a reasonable person could look at this examination with thought and curiosity at the results? Yes. Do I believe most people (including the President's supporters or fellow-travelers) had that in their heart? Certainly not.

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As I said, I'm not approaching this with the kinds of motives you've suggested. If he's mentally unfit for the job then his behavior is perfectly satisfactory evidence of that. And if I'm making the point that a determination of "excellent health" is in direct contrast to observable evidence (and I most certainly am), I'm doing it for its own sake, except insofar as that this is just one more example of an administration that feeds us a steady diet of untruth. What I will not do, as at least one person in this thread has suggested with the "pick your battles" theme of response, is deprioritize an obvious lie just because it should be considered less important than other, more important lies. What I find so offensive is the suggestion that what we're told is more real than our own lying eyes.

We've already burned our way through one Democratic firewall in the beginning of 2018, and if a new narrative is erected that our own senses are to be doubted compared to the administration's determination of reality, then that is another disturbing development.

 

[radcen]

It's all that McDonald's fast food that he is addicted to. That fish filet sandwich is 2,300 calories. Washing it down with a diet Coke must make him feel better about eating himself into a heart attack or stroke.

The Diet Coke means you can gave TWO!

 

[radcen]

Trump is clinically obese. That's not "excellent health". I suspect Trump wrote the report. (Someone said the Dr's name was misspelled.)

In today's feel-good world, "You're not going to croak in the next 30 days." is equal to 'excellent health'. You're right, he is clinically obese, and that's not healthy.

 

[Josie]

Trump is clinically obese. That's not "excellent health". I suspect Trump wrote the report. (Someone said the Dr's name was misspelled.)

There is no report yet.

 

[radcen]

Trump is obese, he eats fast food like a sixteen year old, and he believes exercise is bad for you because it drains the body’s “finite” energy resources.

Methinks the good doctor's reputation is going to take a hit after this. Either that or everybody is perfectly aware that you have to lie in the service of the President, and other doctors will roll their eyes and understand that Jackson had to give Trump a clean bill of health or be fired.

If that is the doctor's primary concern, then I don't see him as being qualified for the position to begin with.

 

[radcen]

Here is what a real President's health report looks like:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...cs/document-president-obama-medical-exam.html

By contrast, Trump's health report will be "Great, awesome, healthier than anybody else, like...evar. Can totally kick everybody's ass with karate."

You left out the part where Chuck Norris goes to Trump for health advice.

 

[radcen]

This doesn't make any sense.

- We can see that he is obese.
- We understand that he hates exercise.
- We understand that he has maintained a poor diet of cholesterol and fatty foods for decades.

Declaring him not crazy is one thing. I don't believe he is and by declaring him mentally wrecked only encourages the idea that he doesn't have to be responsible for his immature and very poor behavior. But the man is clearly not in "excellent" health. Once again, we should all be able to see yet another bit of exaggeration from the world of Trump in order to create a falsehood.

Besides, whatever is going on inside those crowded arteries and celluloid villages all over his body would probably be considered "private" anyway unless Trump declares otherwise. But doing so would mean acknowledging that a lack of exercise and a very poor diet was a mistake. And we all know that a Trump mistake is merely "fake news." So let's just celebrate the "excellent" health of our obviously obese, but flawless, President.

Agreed, but as someone else said, some people are just lucky like that.

 

[radcen]

LOL! I know. It's almost like a vaudeville comedy show except it's really pathetic instead of hilarious. You know the rabid Trump haters aren't going to believe anything positive about Trump - any positive news is somehow a sham, a conspiracy, coerced statements, etc. People have lost their damn minds over this election. People who used to be rational and discerning have completely gone Chicken Little. They have become the people they used to ridicule during the Obama administration.

The ridiculous people on reach side just switched sides, that's all.

 

[trblmkr]

What about my avatar, trblmkr? Isn't it great?

It kind of weird's me out cause I'm not sure what it is. Were you doing windowpane watching adult swim when you came up with that?

 

[Cardinal]

If that is the doctor's primary concern, then I don't see him as being qualified for the position to begin with.

Well, to be fair, I think we will know more about this in the coming week. Right now I'm focusing more on the statement that trump is in "excellent health," and less so whatever circumstances are surrounding the doctor since that seems to be a bit up in the air at the moment. I will just say that if Doctor Jackson is saying that Trump is in excellent health, then he's lying and he will have to deal with whatever impact that has on his career as a result. There's a long trail of bodies of people entering the White House with relatively sterling reputations and exiting in short time with thoroughly tarnished ones.

 

[Brochacholomigo]

It kind of weird's me out cause I'm not sure what it is. Were you doing windowpane watching adult swim when you came up with that?

Much as I love some of the bizarre garbage Adult Swim put on the air at 3 in the morning, that didn't play a role in my avatar. It's a Pepe meme, made out of troll faces.

 

[Crosscheck]

It kind of weird's me out cause I'm not sure what it is. Were you doing windowpane watching adult swim when you came up with that?

Honestly, how many people here do you think will know windowpane? Now, if you said orange sunshine I am certain almost everyone would.

 

[radcen]

Well, to be fair, I think we will know more about this in the coming week. Right now I'm focusing more on the statement that trump is in "excellent health," and less so whatever circumstances are surrounding the doctor since that seems to be a bit up in the air at the moment. I will just say that if Doctor Jackson is saying that Trump is in excellent health, then he's lying and he will have to deal with whatever impact that has on his career as a result. There's a long trail of bodies of people entering the White House with relatively sterling reputations and exiting in short time with thoroughly tarnished ones.

Agreed, it's premature to come to a conclusion just yet. Even Trump supporters should know from having been burned enough that what he (or his people) says now may very well be contradicted a few days later. And by Mr Trump himself, often.

 

[Crosscheck]

the president is in excellent health

 

[trblmkr]

Much as I love some of the bizarre garbage Adult Swim put on the air at 3 in the morning, that didn't play a role in my avatar. It's a Pepe meme, made out of troll faces.

I actually recognized the Pepe bit, but I wasn't sure where you were going. Maybe I just don't like trolls?

 

[trblmkr]

Honestly, how many people here do you think will know windowpane? Now, if you said orange sunshine I am certain almost everyone would.

There was a time in my life when I thought that it was healthy to do a hit at least once every 3 months to maintain an even keel.
That said. There is a time and place to do acid. Not at wild parties. Not with people you don't know. It is an intimate thing and best experienced with intimate friends. Things don't always go well.

 

[year2late]

Well, to be fair, I think we will know more about this in the coming week. Right now I'm focusing more on the statement that trump is in "excellent health," and less so whatever circumstances are surrounding the doctor since that seems to be a bit up in the air at the moment. I will just say that if Doctor Jackson is saying that Trump is in excellent health, then he's lying and he will have to deal with whatever impact that has on his career as a result. There's a long trail of bodies of people entering the White House with relatively sterling reputations and exiting in short time with thoroughly tarnished ones.

I am curious if any doctor in the real world would call someone who is significantly overweight in "excellent health". He doesn't have 10 vanity pounds that he needs to lose. He has significant weight to lose.

 

[Thelion]

I'll believe that tRump is in "excellent" shape when Rear Admiral Ronny Jackson, MD, FAAEM, says he is, and publishes the real report.

As opposed to the White House "statement", allegedly from Dr. Ronnie (sic) Jackson, and filled with tRump-like superlatives instead of the actual language of a medical report.

If Jackson actually appears on Tuesday as promised, or is allowed to go into specifics, I'll be very surprised.

 

[JANFU]

Wonder if this is the same doctor who said that he would be the healthiest president we've ever had?

Check was from the neck down.

 

[Soopairik]

Trump is in excellent health. The best health. No one has better health than Trump.

 

[FieldTheorist]

No. This doctor is a Rear Admiral at Walter Reed and has been the Presidential Physician since 2015.

Not what I expected, but I still doubt that he's completely all right in the head. I mean the guy is making not-so-veiled threats against other celebrities, media outlets, and countries at 3 AM in the morning. This is just not the behavior of normal adults, I'm sorry. Maybe his heart is pumping blood just fine, but I'm not sure it's getting to his brain.

 

[Rexedgar]

There was a time in my life when I thought that it was healthy to do a hit at least once every 3 months to maintain an even keel.
That said. There is a time and place to do acid. Not at wild parties. Not with people you don't know. It is an intimate thing and best experienced with intimate friends. Things don't always go well.

My experience was low dose and solo in an environment where there was little danger of ‘fallout.’ Haven’t heard some of these terms for 50 + years....

 

[Rexedgar]

Not what I expected, but I still doubt that he's completely all right in the head. I mean the guy is making not-so-veiled threats against other celebrities, media outlets, and countries at 3 AM in the morning. This is just not the behavior of normal adults, I'm sorry. Maybe his heart is pumping blood just fine, but I'm not sure it's getting to his brain.

My issue is that as an active duty O-8, Rear Admiral Jackson is subordinate to the CinC. And there is that HIPAA thing, kinda like tax returns under audit. What are the doctor’s options if ordered to muffle?

 

[FieldTheorist]

My issue is that as an active duty O-8, Rear Admiral Jackson is subordinate to the CinC. And there is that HIPAA thing, kinda like tax returns under audit. What are the doctor’s options if ordered to muffle?

Yeah, that's true. Although, I'm not sure that he'd follow orders in this case, no one is going to let a president.... Oh sorry, haha, that's right. Reagan's wife and the elder Bush ran Reagan's administration the last two years because he was getting Alzheimer's. So yeah, maybe. I guess people could agree to cover up for Trump.

It's an interesting question about forcing Congress to have access to Presidential medical records.

 

[Skeptic Bob]

Not what I expected, but I still doubt that he's completely all right in the head. I mean the guy is making not-so-veiled threats against other celebrities, media outlets, and countries at 3 AM in the morning. This is just not the behavior of normal adults, I'm sorry. Maybe his heart is pumping blood just fine, but I'm not sure it's getting to his brain.

I doubt his physical involved a psychiatric evaluation. Maybe I am wrong but I don’t think that is a standard part of the exam.