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Where is Trump's Balanced Budget?

EnigmaO01 said:
Welfare check? Because someone doesn't agree with you or has a problem with the deficit they are automatically on welfare? Funny as a conservative you should know that the most people on welfare and government assistance are in the so called red conservative states. And it's the blue states that contribute the most in taxes and shore up the red states.

I've been accused of being a welcher for my progressive views. Odd that, as I run two businesses and pay more than my share of taxes. My republican friends brag about cheating on their taxes. One even bragged about getting free cheese when she could well afford to pay for it.
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No, when people that supported Obama and his trillion dollar deficits four years in a row now say they are concerned about the deficit, that is nothing more that bull****

If you truly run two businesses then stop delegating to the federal govt. what you can do in your state and local community on the issues you are most concerned about. Seems that being a progressive simply means delegating responsibility to the federal govt. for what you cannot or choose not to do in the state and your local community both of which have term limits

Seems you buy the rhetoric from the left regarding red state/blue state revenue from the federal govt. ignoring that the biggest blue state of them all gets the most federal dollars all of which go to Federal mandates and federal expenses. Do you believe the citizens of the state should pay for federal mandates?? Why don't you find out what federal dollars go to your state, simply change TX to your state

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/smart/texas/
 
Conservative said:
as has been stated over and over again, the war ended with the Status of Forces Agreement in November 2008 signed by Bush and as much as you would like to change the past you can't do that so why divert from the present to the past? The debt for the Iraq War is in the 10.6 trillion debt Obama inherited but for some reason you cannot get over that reality.

Trump has proposed a 2019 budget with actual cuts, please name for me any previous President that submitted actual cuts? Do you support that budget?
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Trump is threatening another government shutdown if he doesn't get border wall money in the budget this time.
That's what I see. It's gonna be mighty interesting to see ICE and DHS personnel working that border with no paychecks.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump is threatening another government shutdown if he doesn't get border wall money in the budget this time.
That's what I see. It's gonna be mighty interesting to see ICE and DHS personnel working that border with no paychecks.
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Why don' you give your state back to Mexico since you operate like your own country living by your own rules anyway? Your city is an absolute disaster as is the fiscal condition of the state. You have no business making any suggestions for anyone else until you get your own state under control
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump is threatening another government shutdown if he doesn't get border wall money in the budget this time.
That's what I see. It's gonna be mighty interesting to see ICE and DHS personnel working that border with no paychecks.
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What is really interesting here is your and the radical left's diversion from the Thread topic. Trump has submitted a 2019 budget which has been ignored and it is a budget that has actual cuts in it but as usual the radical is more interested in the issue and not the solution. Support the 2019 Trump budget, Radicals??
 
Conservative said:
Will that prevent you from getting your welfare check? Interesting how so many complain against deficits but then attack budgets that reduce them as well as anything to protect this country from invasion. Being proactive saves lives, you on the other hand just whine and complain when you don't get what you want
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So now you're resorting to the implication that I am a welfare bum.
That would be a juvenile and cowardly assertion to make, the kind of cowardly jab one makes when one has run out of legitimate arguments.
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The reason the military ever has needs or wants has more to do with waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement more than anything else.
With a half trillion dollars or more every year, I believe it is possible to project a solid military advantage provided we focus those budgets where they are needed, instead of fattening up the barrel with weapons and equipment the military either can't use effectively or doesn't even want.

If you're going to insist on framing this as a battle between so called leftist welfare moochers and patriots, then you're required to list the specific programs that you feel are contributing the most to our debt, outside of welfare, because I have never taken welfare in any form whatsoever, and you've chosen to turn this into a personal attack.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
So now you're resorting to the implication that I am a welfare bum.
That would be a juvenile and cowardly assertion to make, the kind of cowardly jab one makes when one has run out of legitimate arguments.
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The reason the military ever has needs or wants has more to do with waste, fraud, abuse and mismanagement more than anything else.
With a half trillion dollars or more every year, I believe it is possible to project a solid military advantage provided we focus those budgets where they are needed, instead of fattening up the barrel with weapons and equipment the military either can't use effectively or doesn't even want.

If you're going to insist on framing this as a battle between so called leftist welfare moochers and patriots, then you're required to list the specific programs that you feel are contributing the most to our debt, outside of welfare, because I have never taken welfare in any form whatsoever, and you've chosen to turn this into a personal attack.
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No you aren't on welfare, you are clueless as to what is going on in your state, living in that leftwing bubble while your ideology destroys the lives of others. Your wage gap is the worst in the country and you live in a state with the worst quality of life, highest poverty and homelessness. That is reality.
 
Conservative said:
What is really interesting here is your and the radical left's diversion from the Thread topic. Trump has submitted a 2019 budget which has been ignored and it is a budget that has actual cuts in it but as usual the radical is more interested in the issue and not the solution. Support the 2019 Trump budget, Radicals??
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Those Damn Democrats won't roll over and let Trump be a dictator. How terrible is that?

The fact is, you don't care about the deficit now because your party owns the White House. I assume your concern will suddenly come up to surface when there's another Democratic President.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Trump is threatening another government shutdown if he doesn't get border wall money in the budget this time.
That's what I see. It's gonna be mighty interesting to see ICE and DHS personnel working that border with no paychecks.
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Who is the last president never accused of threatening a shutdown please...
 
Conservative said:
No you aren't on welfare, you are clueless as to what is going on in your state, living in that leftwing bubble while your ideology destroys the lives of others. Your wage gap is the worst in the country and you live in a state with the worst quality of life, highest poverty and homelessness. That is reality.
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Why on earth would YOU care what's going on in California if you live in Texas?
I think I know why. We're the 5th largest economy on Earth and it's the usual Texas sniping at California, that's why.
Tell you what, you take care of Texas as you see fit, we'll take care of California as we see fit.
Step off, it's none of your business. If you want to move to California and pay taxes in California, then you can sneer at it all you like.

But that doesn't change the fact this is not a thread about California, it's a thread about Trump's failed budget.

Nice dodge!

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'll bite, who?
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I don't know. My point is that it happens frequent, at least with all the last several.

Seems rather petty to use this against president Trump, like so many other petty things directed against him in the name of leftist hate.
 
rocket88 said:
Those Damn Democrats won't roll over and let Trump be a dictator. How terrible is that?

The fact is, you don't care about the deficit now because your party owns the White House. I assume your concern will suddenly come up to surface when there's another Democratic President.
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What I don't care about are people like you who have no understanding of what caused the 2018 deficit but blame it on Trump. it truly is a shame that so many people are so poorly educated yet claim to be experts
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Why on earth would YOU care what's going on in California if you live in Texas?
I think I know why. We're the 5th largest economy on Earth and it's the usual Texas sniping at California, that's why.
Tell you what, you take care of Texas as you see fit, we'll take care of California as we see fit.
Step off, it's none of your business. If you want to move to California and pay taxes in California, then you can sneer at it all you like.

But that doesn't change the fact this is not a thread about California, it's a thread about Trump's failed budget.

Nice dodge!

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You are right I really don't care what is going on in California but neither do you as you continue to promote California values in this forum. You are out of touch with reality there, no dodge just data, facts, logic, and common sense. Promoting the 5th largest economy in the world with the highest number in poverty, homeless and according to the US News the worst quality of life destroys proves you have nothing more than feelings and opinions, no facts
 
Conservative said:
You are right I really don't care what is going on in California but neither do you as you continue to promote California values in this forum. You are out of touch with reality there, no dodge just data, facts, logic, and common sense. Promoting the 5th largest economy in the world with the highest number in poverty, homeless and according to the US News the worst quality of life destroys proves you have nothing more than feelings and opinions, no facts
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I'm promoting "California values"?
That is your opinion, based on your feelings, so let that be your guide.
Maybe we can get back to the original subject, namely Trump's promise to "get rid of the national debt in eight years" instead of your opinion of Checkerboard's values.

I have zero interest in your butt-hurt feelings about me.
This is the last time I'll ask you to refrain from continuing to make this about me.
If you're unable to do that, I'll just scroll past your posts from now on.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'm promoting "California values"?
That is your opinion, based on your feelings, so let that be your guide.
Maybe we can get back to the original subject, namely Trump's promise to "get rid of the national debt in eight years" instead of your opinion of Checkerboard's values.

I have zero interest in your butt-hurt feelings about me.
This is the last time I'll ask you to refrain from continuing to make this about me.
If you're unable to do that, I'll just scroll past your posts from now on.
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If not mistaken it was get rid of the deficit not the debt. The debt is 21 trillion dollars and that would be impossible. Are you supporting his 2019 budget?
 
Conservative said:
What I don't care about are people like you who have no understanding of what caused the 2018 deficit but blame it on Trump. it truly is a shame that so many people are so poorly educated yet claim to be experts
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The deficit is the result of years of overspending no matter which party is in power. It's not Trump's fault, but he also hasn't delivered a balanced budget as he promised.
 
Conservative said:
If not mistaken it was get rid of the deficit not the debt. The debt is 21 trillion dollars and that would be impossible. Are you supporting his 2019 budget?
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You're mistaken.
 
Crovax said:
I like how a 3 decade problem is lumped all into a 6 month period and blamed on one singular person
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Good point, but the “lumping” is deserved. The GOP runs against allegedly irresponsible economics but does nothing to change things. As I noted elsewhere, if the democrats are “tax and spend,” the GOP is “spend but don’t tax.” Their obsession with cutting taxes for their wealthy donors — who don’t need more money — trumps their (phony) fiscal responsibility. Been that way since Reagan.
 
rocket88 said:
The deficit is the result of years of overspending no matter which party is in power. It's not Trump's fault, but he also hasn't delivered a balanced budget as he promised.
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Look, it is very frustrating dealing with people who are civics challenged. The fiscal year for the U.S. runs from October to September thus making 2018 Trump's first budget year so his first opportunity to balance the budget. Have you bothered to look at his 2019 proposal? Probably not but suggest you do. Such impatience and judgement against Trump after only one budget
 
Lord of Planar said:
I never said Qaddafi was a great guy. Haven't you learned yet that words have meaning, or are you being deceitful?
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er uh Lop, we've had this discussion before. I wish I could find the quote where you defend his innocence in the pan am bombing, said he had integrity and didn't use terrorists. Such a pathetic defense belies your true feelings. anyhoo, don't forget, trump said he would balance the budget. You whined it hasn't been 8 years yet. Can you explain how cutting revenues and increasing spending will balance the budget? thanks in advance
 
MTAtech said:
We know your solution, deny the homeless help — because what makes people dependent on help? HELP
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Yep, you figured it out, the state and local governments want to reduce population by killing people and then asking to for the votes of the remaining people. Please don't forget they want to starve seniors and pollute the state as well. We need a massive central govt. in D.C. to help you in your local community which obviously is liberal logic
 
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