What would it take for you to accept that racism still exists in America

[Nilly]

None of those have anything to do with racism and everything to do with culture. Black babies tend to be born to poor parents who do not have access to top-of-the-line medical care. Blacks, particularly poor blacks, have adopted a culture that glorifies violence and places very little emphasis on education. Blacks tend to live in higher crime areas where the police spend more time and thus, arrests are higher.

Of course, none of these things are demonstrably caused by racism, it's all fallacious thinking. When the best you can do is a Non Causa Pro Causa argument, you've got problems.

You say that as if:

a) Black culture is this monolithic thing that black people subscribe to as group
b) Black culture exists and evolved in a vacuum, without being affected or influenced by the rest of American culture. That 'black culture' evolved without significant influence from white culture, from systemic racism itself. It did not, it was affected by a history of slavery, property/civil rights (and lack thereof) etc etc etc And that's not just limited to bad things - 'good' parts of American culture affected it too.

 

[VanceMack]

People don't become nazi's because we call them that. Neither is being called a nazi an excuse to become one.

Feminists have been called nazi's for decades and they've managed to protest without swastika's or yelling heil hitler or beating minorities with poles.

You can try as you might to put this on the people that call it out as wrong, but the truth is that white supremacism and everything that comes with it is down to these people themselves and those who let it slide. Something called personal responsibility. You might have heard of it.



You didn't even respond to the post with the actual reply. (Hint: it's 2 posts before the one you quoted #66).

So I'm hardly the one diverting here.

Of COURSE you are diverting. You bleat on about 'racism' but can't seem to address the actual instances of systemic racism that can be addressed. Your posts are blather...populist tripe.


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[Cephus]

You say that as if:

a) Black culture is this monolithic thing that black people subscribe to as group
b) Black culture exists and evolved in a vacuum, without being affected or influenced by the rest of American culture. That 'black culture' evolved without significant influence from white culture, from systemic racism itself. It did not, it was affected by a history of slavery, property/civil rights (and lack thereof) etc etc etc And that's not just limited to bad things - 'good' parts of American culture affected it too.

No, they don't. I said POOR BLACKS in particular do, which is where the problems are. Obama does not subscribe to black culture, obviously, but he's successful. Successful blacks don't subscribe to black culture. The problems with this have been pointed out for decades, you just don't want to hear it because it doesn't fit into your narrative. And honestly, the biggest effect on black culture has been liberalism, where young, overwhelmingly white liberals have told poor blacks that nothing is ever their fault, nothing is ever their responsibility, they deserve free stuff because of slavery, etc. And they've done it to get votes, not because they give a damn about poor blacks.

But you probably already knew that, even though you'll never admit it.