What to do about the mass shootings in the US

[Beowulf]

I actually know about guns and that is one nice rifle. No, no ban on those or an SKS

So what are you suggesting banning?

 

[arctic fox]

So what are you suggesting banning?

AR15's AK47 and other pistol grip assault weapons

 

[Beowulf]

AR15's AK47 and other pistol grip assault weapons

But not Browning M1918s? They have no pistol grips.

 

[arctic fox]

But not Browning M1918s? They have no pistol grips.

I'm not sure what that one is. I guess ban any weapon that can be considered an assault rifle. I don't think the mini is considered one.

 

[Beowulf]

I'm not sure what that one is.

It's a .30-06 semi auto rifle.

I guess ban any weapon that can be considered an assault rifle. I don't think the mini is considered one.

I guess the question is: What can be considered an assault rifle?

 

[arctic fox]

It's a .30-06 semi auto rifle.

I guess the question is: What can be considered an assault rifle?

I always thought an assault rifle was one with a pistol grip, much easier to use if engaging an enemy at close range

 

[Beowulf]

I always thought an assault rifle was one with a pistol grip, much easier to use if engaging an enemy at close range

The M1 Garand has no pistol grip. General George Patton called it "the greatest battle implement ever devised". It's a semi-auto .30-06. I actually wish I had one, but they've gotten pretty expensive.

 

[arctic fox]

The M1 Garand has no pistol grip. General George Patton called it "the greatest battle implement ever devised". It's a semi-auto .30-06. I actually wish I had one, but they've gotten pretty expensive.

My boyfriend has a German Mauser, 8mm I believe I fired it a couple of times and it almost dislocated my shoulder! Never fired a Garand

 

[Beowulf]

My boyfriend has a German Mauser, 8mm I believe I fired it a couple of times and it almost dislocated my shoulder! Never fired a Garand

Have your boyfriend get you a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin 795. They're great guns to learn on, and they won't hurt your shoulder.

PS - I want a 8mm Mauser!

 

[arctic fox]

Have your boyfriend get you a Ruger 10/22 or a Marlin 795. They're great guns to learn on, and they won't hurt your shoulder.

PS - I want a 8mm Mauser!

Thanks for the tip. I'll tell him. One gun he has is a collectors item now, it's a Remington "Nylon 66" .22 I've fired that one and it's smooth, doesn't hurt at all.

 

[Beowulf]

Thanks for the tip. I'll tell him. One gun he has is a collectors item now, it's a Remington "Nylon 66" .22 I've fired that one and it's smooth, doesn't hurt at all.

.22 is what I've taught all my kiddos on. You don't have to worry about recoil and can concentrate on proper rifle handling.

I'm glad you and your boyfriend are shooters. We need more of us these days.

 

[arctic fox]

.22 is what I've taught all my kiddos on. You don't have to worry about recoil and can concentrate on proper rifle handling.

I'm glad you and your boyfriend are shooters. We need more of us these days.

"Proper rifle handling" This is what all parents should teach their kids. It's been fun chatting with you. I like you, your cool. Gotta go, see ya later..

 

[Fiddytree]

Its a bit of a complex issue. Banning guns isn't gonna do anything, as it would violate the 2nd amendment. Maybe diagnosing and institutionalizing mentally ill or unstable people?

I always found it fascinating that gun rights advocates are quick to point out that gun control will not work as intended, backing that up with data and other empirical studies, but refuse to consider the much more researched history about the institutionalization of the mentally ill. In fact institutionalization comes with far more undue consequences to society, the tax payer, and the individual institutionalized than any gun control legislation ever could.


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[Abbazorkzog]

Its a bit of a complex issue. Banning guns isn't gonna do anything, as it would violate the 2nd amendment. Maybe diagnosing and institutionalizing mentally ill or unstable people?

These people are not mentally ****ing ill, they're domestic ****ing terrorists...

but refuse to consider the much more researched history about the institutionalization of the mentally ill. In fact institutionalization comes with far more undue consequences to society, the tax payer, and the individual institutionalized than any gun control legislation ever could.

You're leaving out the most important part: the last time mental illness was politicized it led to sterilization and sometimes even euthanization... and the regime it was carried out under was that of Adolf Hitler's...

 

[Fiddytree]

These people are not mentally ****ing ill, they're domestic ****ing terrorists...



You're leaving out the most important part: the last time mental illness was politicized it led to sterilization and sometimes even euthanization... and the regime it was carried out under was that of Adolf Hitler's...

I wasn’t leaving that out, but uh, that was the United States and largely did not stop until the 1960s. In many ways, our country still finds ways to do it. In my state, after a federal lawsuit to revamp the institution holding developmentally, intellectually and some mentally ill, disabled people—we had articles from parents whose first step was to involuntarily sterilize their adult children. That was 1990.


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[Abbazorkzog]

I wasn’t leaving that out, but uh, that was the United States and largely did not stop until the 1960s. In many ways, our country still finds ways to do it. In my state, after a federal lawsuit to revamp the institution holding developmentally, intellectually and some mentally ill, disabled people—we had articles from parents whose first step was to involuntarily sterilize their adult children. That was 1990.


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Yep. The Nazis were inspired by legal racism and eugenics in the U.S. Glad to see I'm not alone on this.

Hitler’s American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law (great book btw)