What is white privilege? [W:355]

[Bodi]

Re: What is white privilege?

White people are the power majority in the world. That's not a difficult fact to grasp.

:lol:

 

[Bodi]

Re: What is white privilege?

We must only honor blacks and yell out Blacks lives matter or we are racist and bigots. :roll:

Some are saying that ... not most though.

 

[Bodi]

Re: What is white privilege?

Since we elected a black POTUS, that means systemic and institutional racism has been cured?

Free at last?

Really?

In some of those areas... yes. With policing and the courts/sentencing? No.

There is no institutional racism in education or regular society, for instance...

 

[Bodi]

Re: What is white privilege?

You believe these particular black people because you agree with them. They are confirming your opinion/bias.

...and you believe the ones that you agree with. :shrug:

 

[Big Eye]

Re: What is white privilege?

White privilege means having to say you're sorry even when you've done nothing wrong....just because you're white. It's about as racist as it gets.

 

[Bodi]

Re: What is white privilege?

Blacks can't go for a jog in their neighborhood with out being harassed.

Harassed by whom?

 

[Rich2018]

"White privilege is the automatic, taken-for-granted advantage bestowed upon white people as a result of living in a society based on the premise of white as the human ideal, and that from its founding established white advantage as a matter of law and today as a matter of policy and practice," DiAngelo said. "It doesn't matter if you agree with it, if you want it, if you even are aware of it — it's 24/7/365.

"One of the reasons why it's so hard for white people to see it — well, there are many reasons — but one is it serves us not to see it. We come to feel entitled to that advantage. We're told that we deserve it and that we earned it, and we take great umbrage when that is challenged."

What about white people who say, "I struggle too"?
"I'm really clear that I'm not saying that white people don't struggle or face barriers or work hard, but there's a major barrier in this society, racism, that we don't struggle with and not struggling against that barrier actually helps us navigate the barriers that we do struggle with," DiAngelo said. "You grew up in poverty. How has being white shaped how you experience poverty, and how you get out of poverty if you do get out of poverty? Again, it's not saying that white Americans don't work hard, but it's a bit like being a fish in a current that impacts the outcome of that work. There's a kind of moving along that amplifies that work, and for people of color, for black people, you're swimming against the current. And we're both working, we're both swimming, but there's such a different impact on the outcome of that effort."

What is white privilege? What questions should white Americans be asking? Two academics weigh in - CBS News

You don't get killed by the police...

 

[Nickyjo]

Re: What is white privilege?

I will wait on the trial to comment on that issue. But the man that died was a ruthless criminal. Do you know what he did to the pregnant woman?

No, what and when? Was he punished?

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

Democrats and the media are powerful proponents of Antifa. And when they commit crimes so frequently it is blessed like Jesus appeared.

Was a time EVERY patriotic America was an anti fascist. Now, traditional republicans seem rather tolerant of them infecting their party and their government. Guess their version of Jesus had second thoughts on all that "blessed be the" stuff in the bible.

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

That is one account. So if I give you one account, it proves my case for me too?

There is more than one account.

Federal law enforcement sees extremists across spectrum
While Trump and Barr have focused on Antifa, the FBI and other agencies are tracking groups from both the extremist right and left involved in the riots and attacks on police.
Federal law enforcement officials tell CNN they are aware of organized groups who are seeking to carry out the property destruction and violence, using the cover of the legitimate protests in Minneapolis and elsewhere. Those domestic extremist groups include anarchists, anti-government groups often associated with far-right extremists and white supremacy causes, and far-left extremists who identify with anti-fascist ideology.
In the past, some of the groups have been known to organize and travel specifically to confront police and destroy property, according to federal law enforcement officials, who say they've seen a similar pattern in Minneapolis and other cities where protests have turned violent in recent days. ...

Fighting fascists is patriotic and honors the memory of 420,000 Americans who died fighting those morally bankrupt scumbags.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

There is more than one account.







Fighting fascists is patriotic and honors the memory of 420,000 Americans who died fighting those morally bankrupt scumbags.

Antifa has proven to be very dangerous not only at universities but other areas of their interest.

So they are not fighting fascism at all. Keep in mind some Democrats proclaim Hitler was no Socialist. Antifa is not an anti fascist group at all. They are total criminals.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

Was a time EVERY patriotic America was an anti fascist. Now, traditional republicans seem rather tolerant of them infecting their party and their government. Guess their version of Jesus had second thoughts on all that "blessed be the" stuff in the bible.

Those are no more anti fascist than Trump is a socialist.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

No, what and when? Was he punished?

In that case yes he was put into prison.

I will give you a good article.

George Floyd Criminal Past Record of Arrest History/Career Timeline: Robbery, Baggie, Gun Pregnant and All Details | The Courier Daily

But face facts on this time. Cops do not look at some black to simply hold him down. Floyd was being charged with a new crime.

The Jury will sort it out for all of us.

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

So Democracy is bad? What is better? To be ruled by Democrats? No thanks if that is your case.

Where did I imply democracy was bad? Oh right I didn't. But I get how throwing out dumb strawmen seems an adequate response.

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

Well, no. The cultural conditioning is mainly teaching the poor that their future is hopeless without big Democrat government.

conversely condition the poor to think their future is hopeless without big republican government. Contrary to partisan mythology, it seems that republicans are the party of big government growth.

But why let facts get in the way of a tried and true partisan bumpersticker. No thinking or analysis required.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

White privilege means having to say you're sorry even when you've done nothing wrong....just because you're white. It's about as racist as it gets.

That's moronic racist bs.

Majority privilege is a scientific fact. Race is incidental. Every race is equally bigoted but the power majority means bigotry results in privilege. Bigotry doesn't result in privilege for power minorities because they don't have the power.


Now, we could discuss what causes someone to dismiss science in favor of preconceived notions and prejudice. And what then causes someone to make ignorant and pathetic accusations of racism.

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

Nope, but black privilege is real, not a fantasy.

We can exchange "nopes at 30 paces" all night long. But perhaps you should consider the difference between culture and politics.

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

Antifa has proven to be very dangerous not only at universities but other areas of their interest.

So they are not fighting fascism at all. Keep in mind some Democrats proclaim Hitler was no Socialist. Antifa is not an anti fascist group at all. They are total criminals.

OMG, yet another ill informed "hitler was a socialist" believer. I should think with such strong opinions you'd at least want to be in command of facts, not really bad fascist propaganda....

 

[Nickyjo]

Re: What is white privilege?

In that case yes he was put into prison.

I will give you a good article.

George Floyd Criminal Past Record of Arrest History/Career Timeline: Robbery, Baggie, Gun Pregnant and All Details | The Courier Daily

But face facts on this time. Cops do not look at some black to simply hold him down. Floyd was being charged with a new crime.

++ Great, arrest Floyd, then. That's your job. Torturing him to death is not.

The Jury will sort it out for all of us.

++ I assume the defense will emphasize what a bad person Floyd was supposed to have been. The jury will presumably know better.

 

[holbritter]

"White privilege is the automatic, taken-for-granted advantage bestowed upon white people as a result of living in a society based on the premise of white as the human ideal, and that from its founding established white advantage as a matter of law and today as a matter of policy and practice," DiAngelo said. "It doesn't matter if you agree with it, if you want it, if you even are aware of it — it's 24/7/365.

"One of the reasons why it's so hard for white people to see it — well, there are many reasons — but one is it serves us not to see it. We come to feel entitled to that advantage. We're told that we deserve it and that we earned it, and we take great umbrage when that is challenged."

What about white people who say, "I struggle too"?
"I'm really clear that I'm not saying that white people don't struggle or face barriers or work hard, but there's a major barrier in this society, racism, that we don't struggle with and not struggling against that barrier actually helps us navigate the barriers that we do struggle with," DiAngelo said. "You grew up in poverty. How has being white shaped how you experience poverty, and how you get out of poverty if you do get out of poverty? Again, it's not saying that white Americans don't work hard, but it's a bit like being a fish in a current that impacts the outcome of that work. There's a kind of moving along that amplifies that work, and for people of color, for black people, you're swimming against the current. And we're both working, we're both swimming, but there's such a different impact on the outcome of that effort."

What is white privilege? What questions should white Americans be asking? Two academics weigh in - CBS News

Depends on the country you live in. The USA? Yup. Middle East, nope.

 

[Addas]

Re: What is white privilege?


Privileged children in American mines. By who became their great-grandchildren?

 

[dairyair]

Re: What is white privilege?

Harassed by whom?

RACE
Black Female Lawmaker In Minnesota Worries About Teenage Son's Safety

...
And so, of course, teenagers, they're going to defy their parents. But I remember having a conversation with Shawn after I had told him that he couldn't run, and he had defied me, and he had been running. And he told me this story about how he was running and this woman drove in front of him and just kind of blocked off his space of where he was running and let down her window and asked him, did you just steal from that store? Is that why you're running?

KING: Shawn, how old were you when that happened?

S RICHARDSON: I think I was - I think 15.

KING: You were a kid.

S RICHARDSON: Yeah.

KING: And what is your thought when a white woman asks you, are you running because you stole something?

S RICHARDSON: At that time, I didn't really take it like, oh, you know, I'm African American and I'm running. I got stopped by a Caucasian woman and she asked me, you know, did you steal something from the store. It was just kind of like - kind of shrugged my shoulders, and I was like, oh, no, I didn't, and just, you know, finished my run. But, like, looking at it now, it's like that wasn't OK at all.

KING: You are 17. And the best part of being 17 is freedom.

S RICHARDSON: Yes.
...
Black Female Lawmaker In Minnesota Worries About Teenage Son's Safety : NPR

 

[dairyair]

Re: What is white privilege?

Privileged children in American mines. By who became their great-grandchildren?

FEB 7, 2019
The Shocking Photo of 'Whipped Peter' That Made Slavery's Brutality Impossible to Deny
The widely circulated image of Peter's wounds helped turn white Northerners against slavery.
The Shocking Photo of 'Whipped Peter' That Made Slavery's Brutality Impossible to Deny - HISTORY

 

[Cramer]

Re: What is white privilege?

...and you believe the ones that you agree with. :shrug:

Sure...but I also confirm their (our) beliefs with evidence, statistics, and peer reviewed studies.

The other side's arguments does not hold up to that kind of scrutiny. They build their arguments on anecdotal evidence, emotions, and sometimes, complete fabrication.

 

[Cramer]

Re: What is white privilege?

In some of those areas... yes. With policing and the courts/sentencing? No.

There is no institutional racism in education or regular society, for instance...

None of that has anything to do with the election of Obama.

He tried to talk about race, but no matter what he said, he was accused of playing the race card.

Much like Jackie Robinson had to refrain from speaking his mind, Obama had to be a much different POTUS, and be much more guarded in his comments. And even then, the right called, and to this day, calls him a race baiter.