What is white privilege? [W:355]

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

If he's a shtbag bang him up , I don't care, but if this wasn't a racist murder what the hell are the riots about?

Remember micheal brown? Same deal, communist/socialist/democrats want to destroy America, That is what the riots are about.

Any excuse to destroy America.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

But his killing has been portrayed as a racist act...that's what the riots were all about.

I think everyone understands how race plays a role in how one is treated by police in America. The woman that called the police on a black person in the park knew this. She employed calling the police on that man, and more importantly the racial implications, as a weapon. Her "I'm in the rambles and a black man is threatening me" was made fully aware that she was using race and the police as a weapon.

Aside from police relations with minorities, we have a more obvious and apparent charge of racism: The lack of prosecution. It's far more common that police and prosecutors look the other way when a black person is the victim. In this case, looking the other way was atrociously and undeniably racism.

Black people do not enjoy the same justice as white people. Not in America and not in the world.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

There is a benefit that others do not have. It's "not having to deal with systemic racial bias."

That's not saying all white people are racist.

It's not being racist to point out that racism exists, that's ridiculous.

When it is only one sided, it amounts to a lie. Such a lie as Democrats changed to being nice republicans by losing the civil rights act wars in Congress.

 

[grip]

Re: What is white privilege?

“White privilege” implies that whites, based on nothing other than their skin tone, have some kind of societal benefit that others do not have. If that is true then it must also be true that people of color are at a societal disadvantage merely because of their skin color. Since “privilege” is a benefit bestowed on a person or a people by society then the “white privilege” concept boils down to “white society is racist”. If someone truly believes that white society is racist then that belief is, in itself, racist.

I think there are racists with every skin color, which alone is indicative of nothing. It's a mindset and social flaw, not a genetic condition.

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What is white privilege?

But his killing has been portrayed as a racist act...that's what the riots were all about.

Many people believe that Floyd's death is just the latest in a long trend of police brutality towards black people. His death may have been the trigger, but the root cause of the riots and protests runs much deeper than that. There is deep mistrust of the police in America going back generations.

 

[X Factor]

Re: What is white privilege?

This hopelessly stupid and dishonest game again?

If you weren't just playing dishonest *gotcha* games, you would take it as read that he "don't support violence." Instead, you assume he does and act like you have some kind of right to demand that he say it whenever you demand. I've seen you play that before. Who do you think you are?

Same thing over and over again on this site. Someone wants to score imaginary internets points against their targets, so they make a post or start a thread announcing that they've found something they haven't heard anyone condemn, and that means that everybody who doesn't make a pilgrimage to their holiness's thread to condemn whatever it is must support it. Like this waste of space of a thread:

Zachary Hammond -2015- Unarmed White 19 year old male killed by police

It's as old as the internet. Who do you people think you're fooling anymore? If you want to attack someone for supporting violence, X, find a post where they supported violence, quote it, and argue your point.




You have no basis to expect that you would have seen Deuce announce that he does not "support violence", nor any basis to expect him to make a point of saying so because the baseline assumption is that a person does not support violence....

....whatever the **** "support violence" is supposed to mean. Like, a chaotic evil barbarian in D&D who just loves hitting things with axes for the sake of hitting things with axes? What?

Sorry but I’ve seen so much hypocrisy on the left these last few days, I don’t assume any reason on your side right now. When it was people, literally, peacefully protesting lock downs because they wanted to return to work or church, they were deemed terrible and selfish people who would be straight responsible for coronavirus deaths, but oddly, no such condemnation was made when the the object of protest (violent protest even) became the police. I’ve also heard it said that, on one hand, the violence is coming from white supremacists while at the very same time being told why we should understand the violence and should actually oppose attempts to get it under control. On one hand this country is racist at it’s core and built only for white people while at the same time being told we should support protest because that’s the most American thing ever...unless it’s protest over the lockdowns.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

I think everyone understands how race plays a role in how one is treated by police in America. The woman that called the police on a black person in the park knew this. She employed calling the police on that man, and more importantly the racial implications, as a weapon. Her "I'm in the rambles and a black man is threatening me" was made fully aware that she was using race and the police as a weapon.

Aside from police relations with minorities, we have a more obvious and apparent charge of racism: The lack of prosecution. It's far more common that police and prosecutors look the other way when it's a black person. In this case, looking the other way was atrociously and undeniably racism. Black people do not enjoy the same justice as white people.

Could it be that Floyd committed a crime and when arrested he put up a hell of a struggle?

Could it be that he was already guilty of crimes of violence? And yes he was and died as a result. I believe at his huge size, he had to put up a hell of a fight to get to the state where a white cop could hold him down with only one knee. The arresting officers knew precisely who he was.

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

Many people believe that Floyd's death is just the latest in a long trend of police brutality towards black people. His death may have been the trigger, but the root cause of the riots and protests runs much deeper than that. There is deep mistrust of the police in America going back generations.

Nope, that is a lie.
People breaking laws always cry the loudest when caught.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

Where did Trump overrule Democrats? If is the shortest word meaning little to nothing in existence.

Democrats are where the crime took place. Democrats run things. If you don't know that, you are out of touch.

You're defending Trump talking about sending in the military. If you were against sending the military, you'd criticize Trump for that suggestion.

 

[Addas]

"White privilege is the automatic, taken-for-granted advantage bestowed upon white people as a result of living in a society based on the premise of white as the human ideal, and that from its founding established white advantage as a matter of law and today as a matter of policy and practice," DiAngelo said.

Privileged children in US factories.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

Could it be that Floyd committed a crime and when arrested he put up a hell of a struggle?

Could it be that he was already guilty of crimes of violence? And yes he was and died as a result. I believe at his huge size, he had to put up a hell of a fight to get to the state where a white cop could hold him down with only one knee. The arresting officers knew precisely who he was.

None of that excuses murder. The cop directly responsible for murder knew the victim. They worked together at a nightclub as bouncers. Apparently, the victim was of high enough class to work with the cop at the same place doing the same thing. They were teammates.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

Sorry but I’ve seen so much hypocrisy on the left these last few days, I don’t assume any reason on your side right now. When it was people, literally, peacefully protesting lock downs because they wanted to return to work or church, they were deemed terrible and selfish people who would be straight responsible for coronavirus deaths, but oddly, no such condemnation was made when the the object of protest (violent protest even) became the police. I’ve also heard it said that, on one hand, the violence is coming from white supremacists while at the very same time being told why we should understand the violence and should actually oppose attempts to get it under control. On one hand this country is racist at it’s core and built only for white people while at the same time being told we should support protest because that’s the most American thing ever...unless it’s protest over the lockdowns.

Oh, so you think the police should just exterminate anyone protesting?

(this is what you're doing. you just don't see it)

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

Delete double post.

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

None of that excuses murder. The cop directly responsible for murder knew the victim. They worked together at a nightclub as bouncers. Apparently, the victim was of high enough class to work with the cop at the same place doing the same thing. They were teammates.

Was this murder?
'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life

Oh, never mind, he was white.
His white privilege ran out.

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

I have a Masters of Science in International Environmental Science and a PhD(c) in Interdisciplinary Ecology (specializing, like a minor for an undergrad, in Gender).

I have had many grad level classes in anthropology and sociology.

I know white privilege is a scientific fact. I'm not an ignorant whitey on the internet spewing racist bs in defense of racists.

You have impressive creditentials which makes me wonder why you post such bigoted things?

So you had courses and passed them. I again congratulate all who are educated formally. It means in a class you sat in you were persuaded by other teachers or professors or in fact, their aides. And they taught you to be who you now are.

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What is white privilege?

Nope, that is a lie.
People breaking laws always cry the loudest when caught.

What is a lie, that people believe police mistreat black people? Clearly, a great many people believe that, enough to spark these protests. For my part, I believe the police are too authoritarian in general, which is why I support BLM and any movement that seeks to reform the police to be less violent.

 

[SCrider]

Re: What is white privilege?

What advantages do I have over today's minorities?

Okay, white liberals... go at it. Purge your white guilt. :lamo

You're too dumb or bling to see them, sad for you.

 

[Logophile]

Re: What is white privilege?

If he's a shtbag bang him up , I don't care, but if this wasn't a racist murder what the hell are the riots about?

Well, that's the big question, isn't it?? There may be a multitude of reasons: boredom, being stuck at home because of the virus, joblessness because of the virus, schools closed because of the virus, grocery stores depleted because of the virus, needing to blame some kind of authority for all the frustration?? I mean just plain police brutality doesn't seem to have enough edge to warrant breaking windows. Thanks!!

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

What is a lie, that people believe police mistreat black people? Clearly, a great many people believe that, enough to spark these protests. For my part, I believe the police are too authoritarian in general, which is why I support BLM and any movement that seeks to reform the police to be less violent.

So you want crime rates to rise, got it.
You must, because that is the result of less police.

All criminals hate cops, hmmm, wonder why?

And when people resist arrest for crimes, just let them go?

 

[BlueTex]

Re: What is white privilege?

Was this murder?
'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life

Oh, never mind, he was white.
His white privilege ran out.

Are you from the Dallas area?

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

Are you from the Dallas area?

Why does that matter? Were there riots over it?

If not, why not?

 

[Irredentist]

Re: What is white privilege?

So you want crime rates to rise, got it.
You must, because that is the result of less police.

All criminals hate cops, hmmm, wonder why?

And when people resist for crimes, just let them go?

In my experience the police aren't that effective at preventing crime. Half of the time they abuse their power to be jerks. And the other half they're just bad at their jobs.

 

[X Factor]

Re: What is white privilege?

I think there are racists with every skin color, which alone is indicative of nothing. It's a mindset and social flaw, not a genetic condition.

Sorry, man, any belief that any flaw that can exist in the people of one race also exists in people of all other races is, I’m pretty sure, racist.

 

[BlueTex]

Re: What is white privilege?

Why does that matter? Were there riots over it?

No, it was covered up for years by the Dallas PD... Once the details were forced to be revealed, there has been plenty of outrage.. Certainly not the first time I heard of it...

The murder happened in 2016, the bodycam footage wasn't released until late last year...

But for the first time, an employee in the medical examiner's office told her the ruling on her son's cause of death: Homicide. Sudden cardiac death, due to the toxic effects of cocaine and the stress associated with physical restraint.

Vicki Timpa learned something else from that conversation, according to court filings: A police officer used his knee on her son's back to pin him to the ground for more than 13 minutes.

Those details were missing from the report to the attorney general.


Police responded to his 911 call for help. He died. What happened to Tony Timpa?

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

In my experience the police aren't that effective at preventing crime. Half of the time they abuse their power to be jerks. And the other half they're just bad at their jobs.

They are not there to prevent crime, but they do.
A police officer can not be nice when fighting in a ditch to arrest someone.

You have an authority figure issue.