What is white privilege? [W:355]

[dairyair]

Re: What is white privilege?

Being in the UK I might not know as much about the killing of Floyd George as some of you...do we know the copper killed him because he was black or could there be other reasons why he did what he did?

White or black, there was no reason to neck kneel for near 9 minutes until he went unconscious.

It's just in USA, blacks are targeted more often per capita.

What is Systemic Racism? - WorldAtlas

Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Justice System
Although a politically controversial topic, there are overwhelming facts to support the notion that the US justice system is racist especially looking at the targeting and punishing of African-Americans. Looking at data on police stoppings, shootings, drug arrests, bailing process, legal representation, trial, sentencing, jury selection, freedom, and parole, a trend of biasness appears. On drug use, African-Americans constitute 13% of the population and 14% of drug users, but 37% of drug-related arrests and 56% of inmates of crimes relating to drugs.

In New York, colored people make up 50% of the population but Latinos and Blacks make up over 80% of NYPD stops. In fact, in most US cities, Blacks are thrice likely to be arrested than whites. During a trial, African-Americans are more likely to be in prison as they wait for trial than whites and since most may not afford to hire lawyers, underpaid and undermotivated public defenders are more likely to defend such cases. Data from Alabama also indicates that a higher representation in the jury is white, especially in cases involving death penalty whereas US Sentencing Commission reported that blacks tend to receive 10% longer sentences than whites for the same crime. The US Bureau of Justice and Statistics indicated that 32% (one in three) of blacks, 17% of Latinos, and 6% of whites have a chance of being arrested. With a black-juvenile population of 16%, they represent 28% of arrests and 37% of inmates.

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

You want to make this about me?

Yes, they do. When every fact, every statistic, every scientist is against their position, what else remains for them? It's like climate deniers telling me that I can't handle the science while I hold grad degrees in science and they hold history degrees.

Of course those holding the racist position make it about their opponent. It's their only hope of winning any kind of point. They can only play the "I don't know anything" card for so long.

 

[Mr Person]

Re: What is white privilege?

Show one example of any of these things :lamo

Jesus, this is beyond a straw man. It's a straw mountain.

The only social media I use is Instagram and every one of those things is all over it. I’d be thrilled, though, if you were willing to say you don’t support violence regardless of who it’s from or directed toward or that most cops aren’t racist murderers or that it’s not wrong to like and support this country.

This hopelessly stupid and dishonest game again?

If you weren't just playing dishonest *gotcha* games, you would take it as read that he "don't support violence." Instead, you assume he does and act like you have some kind of right to demand that he say it whenever you demand. I've seen you play that before. Who do you think you are?

Same thing over and over again on this site. Someone wants to score imaginary internets points against their targets, so they make a post or start a thread announcing that they've found something they haven't heard anyone condemn, and that means that everybody who doesn't make a pilgrimage to their holiness's thread to condemn whatever it is must support it. Like this waste of space of a thread:

Zachary Hammond -2015- Unarmed White 19 year old male killed by police

It's as old as the internet. Who do you people think you're fooling anymore? If you want to attack someone for supporting violence, X, find a post where they supported violence, quote it, and argue your point.




You have no basis to expect that you would have seen Deuce announce that he does not "support violence", nor any basis to expect him to make a point of saying so because the baseline assumption is that a person does not support violence....

....whatever the **** "support violence" is supposed to mean. Like, a chaotic evil barbarian in D&D who just loves hitting things with axes for the sake of hitting things with axes? What?

 

[X Factor]

Re: What is white privilege?

No one is "excusing blacks for crimes". But, then, you believe Lincoln was the worst President ever.

This from the guy who couldn’t bring himself to condemn the guy who shot white police officers in Dallas.

 

[vesper]

Re: What is white privilege?

I acknowledge it is not my fault that there are some really bad people in the world.

Good people come in all colors. Bad people come in all colors. Good cops come in all colors. Bad cops come in all colors.

There are white racists and there are black racists. There's a faction of racists in every tribe and color known to man. Right now those who are stirring the pot with outrageous comments like "white privilege" have an agenda.

Booker T. Washington (1865–1915) warned of such people within the black community in his 1911 book My Larger Education. He described them as “problem profiteers”:
“There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs – partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.” (p. 118)

He wrote those words in 1911 over a century ago. They still ring true today. Today we have “problem profiteers” borrowing Booker's words. They come in the form of people with the title Reverend. They come in the form of Congress critters to secure the vote. They come in the form of media that are doing their best to start a racial war.

For anyone who is not familiar with Booker T. Washington, his skin color is black. He was born to a slave in Virginia After emancipation, his mother Jane reunited with his father in West Virginia. As a young man he worked his way through a well known black college I believe it was Hampton. Then went on to seminary college. Yes black folks a 100 years ago had access to higher learning. And today blacks at record numbers are seeking higher learning and becoming very successful. Today blacks in growing numbers living in gated communities due to their great success. So someone please tell me where the systemic racism lies or is it a fact that it exists is the lie.

I recommend all to read "My Larger Education".

 

[Jredbaron96]

Re: What is white privilege?

Moderator's Warning:

Cease the personal attacks. Any further instances will result in a threadban.

 

[Cramer]

Re: What is white privilege?

What special “policies” do police have directed only at minorities?

Institutional racism is real.

Stop and Frisk was one. Of course, the policy does not direct it towards minorities, it just effected mostly minorities.
Which applies to many other "policies".

How about the crack vs cocaine sentencing practices?

I put more blame on the unions protecting the bad actors. And the local governments that are supposed to regulate these types of things.

 

[RealityNow]

Re: What is white privilege?

(Not All) but.... SOME White people work hard at not learning.....

"Assholes with "guns' still trying to promote that delusion of white dominance.... idiot police hitting people with baton's.... and stupid man, accosting two young girls....

These particular dumb ass white woman calling police and lying:
1. White Woman Calls Police On Black Man After He Asks Her To Leash Her Dog

Crazy white men trying to dictate something!!!
YouTube
YouTube
YouTube

Crazy white women displaying racist ignorance.
YouTube
https://youtu.be/K0kP0iOSXjk
https://youtu.be/Wutl6OP04jU
https://youtu.be/4_lfGnIcwto
https://youtu.be/txg3gDHKoFk

They think being white gives the control over America....

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

....whatever the **** "support violence" is supposed to mean. Like, a chaotic evil barbarian in D&D who just loves hitting things with axes for the sake of hitting things with axes? What?

Chaotic neutral. Evil would give the violence purpose.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

Seriously. Why is it so damn important to deny white privilege exists?

It's a reflexive response to a perceived attack. When people hear that term, especially conservatives, they interpret it to mean that they didn't earn what they have. That they somehow cheated to get where they are. That's why they always point out just how hard they've worked. I earned what I have! It's an easy response to understand, once you figure out their perspective on it. It's just how people respond to what they think is a personal attack on their character.

It doesn't occur to them that they're wrong. "White privilege" doesn't mean "white people have it easy." It doesn't mean "white people didn't earn what they have." It doesn't mean "we should make sure white people suffer more than they do." It doesn't mean "white people are bad people." It doesn't mean "white people are all racist." They don't know what it means, they're reacting to what they think it means.

 

[Logical1]

Re: What is white privilege?

So called white privilege is total BS thot up by the radical left to crank up those that wont work and have little money.

 

[Logophile]

Re: What is white privilege?

Uh huh. You've been calling me racist for pages even though I nowhere stated that white privilege didn't exist.

He could tell by your body language

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

Both. The distinction is income level, not race.

There's no other issues? Racism doesn't play a factor in anyone's life?

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

That is a link to a $50k /year private school.

Do you really think those lesson plans are prominent in most schools?

FTR, those practices seem over the top BS.

That private school is doing children wrong. They want white kids to accept that they are guilty though as children they are totally innocent. And blacks are rewarded as if they are better than white children. And it is not the sole school preaching this racist prattle either.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

I stopped voting Democrat when I came to the conclusion that most everything they promised minorities' was racial exploitation and done for their own benefit, to power grab.

Do you think black people are capable of rationally assessing the actions and beliefs of the two major parties and then voting in their best self-interest?

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

So called white privilege is total BS thot up by the radical left to crank up those that wont work and have little money.

What would it take to get those people to work? Maybe whips?

 

[Big Eye]

Re: What is white privilege?

White or black, there was no reason to neck kneel for near 9 minutes until he went unconscious.

It's just in USA, blacks are targeted more often per capita.

What is Systemic Racism? - WorldAtlas

Examples of Systemic Racism in the US Justice System
Although a politically controversial topic, there are overwhelming facts to support the notion that the US justice system is racist especially looking at the targeting and punishing of African-Americans. Looking at data on police stoppings, shootings, drug arrests, bailing process, legal representation, trial, sentencing, jury selection, freedom, and parole, a trend of biasness appears. On drug use, African-Americans constitute 13% of the population and 14% of drug users, but 37% of drug-related arrests and 56% of inmates of crimes relating to drugs.

In New York, colored people make up 50% of the population but Latinos and Blacks make up over 80% of NYPD stops. In fact, in most US cities, Blacks are thrice likely to be arrested than whites. During a trial, African-Americans are more likely to be in prison as they wait for trial than whites and since most may not afford to hire lawyers, underpaid and undermotivated public defenders are more likely to defend such cases. Data from Alabama also indicates that a higher representation in the jury is white, especially in cases involving death penalty whereas US Sentencing Commission reported that blacks tend to receive 10% longer sentences than whites for the same crime. The US Bureau of Justice and Statistics indicated that 32% (one in three) of blacks, 17% of Latinos, and 6% of whites have a chance of being arrested. With a black-juvenile population of 16%, they represent 28% of arrests and 37% of inmates.

Maybe black culture is encouraging law breaking more than other cultures? Maybe black people get longer sentences because they are more likely to be repeat offenders? It's too simplistic to shout "racism" in such circumstances...it's almost certainly a cultural problem, people's skin colour doesn't make them do bad things...culture may make them do bad things .

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

There's no other issues? Racism doesn't play a factor in anyone's life?

In general this is why studies are performed. We can't learn from bigots. Bigots joined the Democratic party. But why not, Democrats have long been the racist party.

 

[Aberro]

Re: What is white privilege?

Being in the UK I might not know as much about the killing of Floyd George as some of you...do we know the copper killed him because he was black or could there be other reasons why he did what he did?

He was not murdered, he was resisting arrest originally, he was 6’6”, 270 lbs.
He was arrested for using counterfeit money.
He had drugs in his system.

But the left (Democrats) don’t care.

Here is a story , same deal, but white guy, the left don’t care.
'''You'''re gonna kill me!''': Dallas police body cam footage reveals the final minutes of Tony Timpa'''s life

(Timpa wailed and pleaded for help more than 30 times as officers pinned his shoulders, knees and neck to the ground in 2016.)

 

[Jonsa]

Re: What is white privilege?

I point the fickle finger of fate where it belongs Jonsa. Democrats lead the parade in injustices to blacks. And they deny it. They actually lie about it.

Yeah, its almost like republicans are blameless, which of course accounts for why so many blacks are party members.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

If any president commits massive troops to invade any state, damned right they are on my list as worst presidents. My belief Abe is our worst is based on facts of what he did to earn my scorn.

Put it this way. were Trump to today invade even one state, do you not think I would scorn him?

So when Trump was talking about using the military to suppress riots, you were very angry about that idea, right?

 

[Robertinfremont]

Re: What is white privilege?

What would it take to get those people to work? Maybe whips?

Culture will get people to work harder.

 

[Deuce]

Re: What is white privilege?

In general this is why studies are performed. We can't learn from bigots. Bigots joined the Democratic party. But why not, Democrats have long been the racist party.

You're incoherent. Answer simply: does racism impact people negatively?

 

[ecofarm]

Re: What is white privilege?

Culture will get people to work harder.

What culture?

 

[dairyair]

Re: What is white privilege?

Maybe black culture is encouraging law breaking more than other cultures? Maybe black people get longer sentences because they are more likely to be repeat offenders? It's too simplistic to shout "racism" in such circumstances...it's almost certainly a cultural problem, people's skin colour doesn't make them do bad things...culture may make them do bad things .

Maybe?
That is a legit excuse?
Maybe?