What is really behind the hatred of the President?

[Greenbeard]

Yeah, what’s not to like?

 

[Unitedwestand13]

Not at all. You can either give an example in honest context of why the President deserves such disrespect and hatred, or you can't. It is not an unreasonable request. It is telling though when you attack me because I am asking people to back up that disrespect and hatred with something real instead of just the assigned smears and talking points.

How about this:



Here is some more

 

[bearpoker]

Hillary Clinton embodied the self-entitled victim-blaming obtuse liar who hates America. For liberals its a critical wound. Rarely has someone epitomized the depravity of liberalism like Hillary and she lost. Liberals who want to destroy the foundation of this country lost their champion. They lost their chance to erode the cornerstone of world freedom and democracy and they may never have a chance to openly embrace someone as evil as she again. They aren't a movement. They're a group of cultists.

It's always funny to find a hate filled post on a thread dedicated to complaining that some else is hateful. :lamo

 

[Fenton Lum]

Not at all. You can either give an example in honest context of why the President deserves such disrespect and hatred, or you can't.

He earned it, the old fashioned way. This is intuitively obvious to even the most casual of observers. Anyone could explain it to you, but then you would label them "leftist", cover your ears with your hands and proclaim "la la la la la la la la la la la la la la" at the top of our lungs, like you're doing here for example.

 

[bearpoker]

I get it that the left were bitterly disappoint when Trump won. I felt the same way when Obama won the second time. In the first term, I gave him the full benefit of the doubt until he proved he didn't deserve my support. And then I was so hopeful we would get Romney who I didn't like all that much but who I still believe would have started turning things around and would have done some good things for the country. So I was bitterly disappointed when Obama won re-election after giving us so many reasons that he shouldn't be re-elected. I understand the disappointment. But I have tried hard never to criticize President Obama for anything he didn't actually do. I have defended President Obama when I thought people on the right were being hatefully cruel and/or accused him of something he didn't deserve.

And for the left, Trump wasn't supposed to happen. The pollsters had assured them it wasn't going to happen. It was Hillary's turn. Many didn't like her all that much but at least she was one of THEM. And it was taken away from her. And them. I appreciate that.

But I don't understand people who would rather see the country fail than to help President Trump get anything done. Who target him for some of the most hateful and dishonest attacks I have EVER seen launched against a person.

I do not understand that kind of hatred.

You must have missed the "Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya" attack that went on for about 6 years. When was the last time you had your eyes and ears checked?

 

[RabidAlpaca]

Okay. Thanks for coming but you obviously cannot give a single example--in context and without leftist spin--of why the President deserves all the venom, disrespect, and hatred. Do have a pleasant day, but I won't respond to any more of your posts until you do give such an example.

We'll keep it simple. Donald said John McCain wasn't a war hero and that he prefers people who didn't get caught. As a veteran I was deeply disgusted by this and he's continuously and unrepentantly shat on the troops over and over and over again.

 

[AlbqOwl]

It isn't like President Trump has been disrespectful or hateful toward any of the others or there was great animosity between other Presidents:

 

[Linc]

Have you been awake the past 12 months?

I listed some things. I'm sure that list, nor anything else I point out will be enough for you. Your wording that I have to 'exactly' tell you what he's said in the 'exact' context is a dead give away.. In other words no matter what I say you will twist it and play word games so you can attack the people criticizing him. Everything bad said about him will be seen by you are 'spin. Stop wasting everyone's time.

I'm not going to sit here and play word games with you..

Have a nice day.

It's as simple as Sane and Coherent Sen. Corker voicing concerns over a Nuclear Apocalyptic trump ...

 

[Perotista]

I see it. I recognize it. It is prevalent everywhere--among the Democrats in Congress and some Republicans, in the mainstream media, on social media, on message boards, etc. The President is stupid, ugly, hateful, racist, bigoted, sexist, inappropriate, arrogant, dangerous, etc. etc. etc. etc.

I get it.

But where is that coming from really?

Do all those people really believe Hillary was the better choice and think if they can destroy Trump they'll get somebody they can approve of? Or are they too partisan to see any positives in any conservative?

Do they get some kind of emotional satisfaction in singling out somebody to hate? Is using ugly imagery or 'clever' derogatory terms to describe him recreation for them?

Do they think they look smart by dismissing all evidence to the contrary and continuing to recite the talking points to describe him as terrible, unacceptable even when it is intellectually dishonest to do so?

Do they have no sense of justice or fair play when they are unwilling to acknowledge what was actually said or done and instead spin the accurate statement/situation into something they can attack?

Is it impossible for them to see it any other way than from a highly prejudiced and biased leftist point of view?

Is it so impossible to support his idea or work with him to accomplish something good? How do rational people deal with such obvious fear that he might get credit for something good?

And finally. . .

Is it possible to have a discussion about this in a civil, intelligent, philosophical manner that isn't derailed and destroyed by sound bites and other trollish methods?

So from your best rational perspective, what is behind the hatred of President Donald J. Trump?

Hillary better, who knows? But 25% of all Americans had a dislike of both major party candidates. So whoever one, those 25% would be disliking the current president anyway along with the other party of which one won. Probably 55-60% of all Americans against whomever won.

One in Four Americans Dislike Both Presidential Candidates

Maybe more Americans are against Trump and didn't really want him last year, but they didn't want Hillary either. Gallup has another answer for the dislike of Trump, his character.

Trump Disapproval Rooted in Character Concerns

Very unpresidential, uncouth, etc. It's his persona, not so much his policies.

 

[lurchadams]

Would you please provide an example of his behavior that deserves such anger, such venom, such disrespect, such hatred? Please put that example in its exact full context and not the spin that the left has put on it.

You don't want any other answer other than agreement that criticism of Trump is not justified. Others have posted excellent examples of how Trump deserves all the criticism and ire that comes his way.

He's a reprehensible person, unworthy of the office he holds. But you keep on worshiping him and trolling anyone that points out Trump's insanity. It's what you do.

 

[AlbqOwl]

We'll keep it simple. Donald said John McCain wasn't a war hero and that he prefers people who didn't get caught. As a veteran I was deeply disgusted by this and he's continuously and unrepentantly shat on the troops over and over and over again.

I disliked that comment too. And thought it way out of line. But a couple of sentences out of thousands and thousands of sentences deserves unbridled anger, hatred, disrespect forever? More importantly the fact that the President has made helping our active troops and veterans a cornerstone of his personal agenda should at least mitigate one unfortunate statement. Why should he be condemned for one stupid and outrageous remark and all the rest be ignored?

I was furious at Barack Obama repeating versions of the lie: "If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor" over and over and over again, knowing it was a lie, just to sell his health plan. And I will continue to criticize him for that from now on. But it is not all he is, all that he stood for. It doesn't justify setting everything else about the man aside and focusing on that one sin.

 

[AlbqOwl]

You don't want any other answer other than agreement that criticism of Trump is not justified. Others have posted excellent examples of how Trump deserves all the criticism and ire that comes his way.

He's a reprehensible person, unworthy of the office he holds. But you keep on worshiping him and trolling anyone that points out Trump's insanity. It's what you do.

And thank you for confirming the point of the OP which is the unbridled anger, disrespect, and hatred of the man by people who cannot give an honest rationale in full context for why it is justified.

 

[AlbqOwl]

You must have missed the "Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya" attack that went on for about 6 years. When was the last time you had your eyes and ears checked?

That didn't come from me. And I supported or defended nobody who made that accusation. I rejected that argument.

But what does that have to do with the unbridled anger, disrespect, contempt, hatred of Donald J. Trump? Are you saying because unfair accusations were made of Obama, then it is fair game to destroy somebody else?

 

[AlbqOwl]

Hillary better, who knows? But 25% of all Americans had a dislike of both major party candidates. So whoever one, those 25% would be disliking the current president anyway along with the other party of which one won. Probably 55-60% of all Americans against whomever won.

One in Four Americans Dislike Both Presidential Candidates

Maybe more Americans are against Trump and didn't really want him last year, but they didn't want Hillary either. Gallup has another answer for the dislike of Trump, his character.

Trump Disapproval Rooted in Character Concerns

Very unpresidential, uncouth, etc. It's his persona, not so much his policies.

So because he is unlikable justifies the unbridled anger, contempt, disrespect, hatred? Is that what you are saying?

 

[Common Sense 1]

I think much of the hate is because President Trump stopped the final push of the progressive nonsense
taking over the country. Eight years of Hillary would have put the finishing touches that could not be stopped.
Instead of a progressive federal court system President Trump will be naming about 100 + federal judges in his 1st
term. And it is likely that there will be another opening on the Supreme court during his 1st term.

The hate started just minutes after his victory speech election night. People were protesting the very next day
before any of his policies were put into place. Before he even started to govern. It been nonstop name calling and
demonizing. The left hate machine is in full rage mode and won't let up.

I question if the hate will win votes? What do the democrats stand for? All you hear right now is RESIST. I don't
think that is going to win any elections for them.

 

[lurchadams]

And thank you for confirming the point of the OP which is the unbridled anger, disrespect, and hatred of the man by people who cannot give an honest rationale in full context for why it is justified.

Yep, have fun with your trolling. You're not going to bait me, but keep trying.

 

[Port & Starboard]

I don't like his mouth. ( you can dish it right back to you naysayers without being vulgar )

I don't like his insecurity.

I don't like his vice president.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I think much of the hate is because President Trump stopped the final push of the progressive nonsense
taking over the country. Eight years of Hillary would have put the finishing touches that could not be stopped.
Instead of a progressive federal court system President Trump will be naming about 100 + federal judges in his 1st
term. And it is likely that there will be another opening on the Supreme court during his 1st term.

The hate started just minutes after his victory speech election night. People were protesting the very next day
before any of his policies were put into place. Before he even started to govern. It been nonstop name calling and
demonizing. The left hate machine is in full rage mode and won't let up.

I question if the hate will win votes? What do the democrats stand for? All you hear right now is RESIST. I don't
think that is going to win any elections for them.

I could justify voting for Donald Trump based on those Supreme Court nominations alone. I wasn't sure what sort of justice he would nominate, but I could at least hope. (And he came through wonderfully on that.) I was absolutely certain what sort Hillary would nominate and I knew I didn't want that.

But let me play devil's advocate here for a bit. Are you suggesting that so many people are so shallow, so bereft of integrity, so empty of intellectual honesty, so hateful and mean spirited that they would attack President Trump the way they have just because they are upset that Hillary, their hope to at last make progressivism the law of the land, didn't win?

 

[bearpoker]

That didn't come from me. And I supported or defended nobody who made that accusation. I rejected that argument.

But what does that have to do with the unbridled anger, disrespect, contempt, hatred of Donald J. Trump? Are you saying because unfair accusations were made of Obama, then it is fair game to destroy somebody else?

You seem to think the reaction against Trump is unusual. I'm simply pointing out that there is a precedent. Did you post a similar thread when Obama was president? Maybe you did. I'm new to this site so I don't really know.

 

[AlbqOwl]

I don't like his mouth. ( you can dish it right back to you naysayers without being vulgar )

I don't like his insecurity.

I don't like his vice president.

That's fair. But does it justify the unbridled anger, contempt, disrespect, hatred directed toward the man?

 

[AlbqOwl]

You seem to think the reaction against Trump is unusual. I'm simply pointing out that there is a precedent. Did you post a similar thread when Obama was president? Maybe you did. I'm new to this site so I don't really know.

There was a lot of stupid stuff posted about President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, but the media was not so universally and pointedly biased and dishonest with them and there was not the non stop unbridled anger, contempt, hatred, and hatred directed toward them.

What is being thrown at President Trump is unprecedented.

 

[Port & Starboard]

That's fair. But does it justify the unbridled anger, contempt, disrespect, hatred directed toward the man?

No.

Much of the anger is based on lies, but there are some legit reasons out there to be angered by "The Donald"

 

[Common Sense 1]

I could justify voting for Donald Trump based on those Supreme Court nominations alone. I wasn't sure what sort of justice he would nominate, but I could at least hope. (And he came through wonderfully on that.) I was absolutely certain what sort Hillary would nominate and I knew I didn't want that.

But let me play devil's advocate here for a bit. Are you suggesting that so many people are so shallow, so bereft of integrity, so empty of intellectual honesty, so hateful and mean spirited that they would attack President Trump the way they have just because they are upset that Hillary, their hope to at last make progressivism the law of the land, didn't win?

They have been told to hate/oppose Trump with what ever he does. I wrote what I think could be be a reason for what is happening. I will add
that there is upset on the establishment republican side also. The staunch never Trumpers have tried many things to derail him.

 

[bearpoker]

There was a lot of stupid stuff posted about President Clinton, President Bush, President Obama, but the media was not so universally and pointedly biased and dishonest with them and there was not the non stop unbridled anger, contempt, hatred, and hatred directed toward them.

What is being thrown at President Trump is unprecedented.

Did he or did he not undermine his own secretary of state when he was talking to China about North Korea? The man is a menace.

 

[joG]

Hillary Clinton embodied the self-entitled victim-blaming obtuse liar who hates America. For liberals its a critical wound. Rarely has someone epitomized the depravity of liberalism like Hillary and she lost. Liberals who want to destroy the foundation of this country lost their champion. They lost their chance to erode the cornerstone of world freedom and democracy and they may never have a chance to openly embrace someone as evil as she again. They aren't a movement. They're a group of cultists.

I would have used other words, but that is probably right on.