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What happened to the GOP I once voted for?

PIPEWRENCH said:
You do know that Russia is no longer a communist country. Russia has elections. Russia has an executive branch, a legislative branch, and a judicial branch. Russia has a constitution and list of rights for it's citizens. Sound familiar.
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Where have I heard Americans being told to put their trust in Russia, and not America? Oh yeah.

Trump sides with Russia against FBI at Helsinki summit - BBC News

It's getting so hard to know who is a Russian troll, and who is a "useful idiot". They both say the same things.
 
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independentusa said:
Do I have to tell you that every intelligence agency in our government knows that the Russians were the ones, but then you would rather believe Trump as he for sure knows it was not the Russians because Putin told him so. Use your brain and THINK. Does Ukraine's have the finances and the ability to do all that the Russians did? Of course not, Ukraine has to ask us for money just to keep their country out of the hands of the Russians. Only idiots like the GOP Senators would believe it was Ukraine, although they probably do not believe it. They just say they do to stay in Trump's good graces so they can keep their jobs.
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Do we have to tell you, again, that that is a lie?
 
Chomsky said:
You are watching pure unadulterated lust & greed for power.
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The Democrats are pissed off because a dark horse won the election. It wasn't supposed to go down that way. Now, they're trying to fix it.
 
apdst said:
The Democrats are pissed off because a dark horse won the election. It wasn't supposed to go down that way. Now, they're trying to fix it.
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Correction: Real Americans are pissed off because a crook won the election. It wasn't supposed to go down that way. Now, they're trying to fix it.
 
calamity said:
Correction: Real Americans are pissed off because a crook won the election. It wasn't supposed to go down that way. Now, they're trying to fix it.
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I don't see The People trying to get rid of Trump. The polls don't even reflect that. Besides, it went down exactly how the people wanted it to.
 
SoCal said:
Our two countries have so much in common. I think the Repubs should run on this platform. Don could lead the effort to make Russia our ally between now and the election. And while we're at it, why not propose they be invited into NATO?..
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They should be a part of NATO. We should be leading by example not becoming the Socialist States of America the big government that the left wants. Russia should be our ally along with Europe. This promoting of hate by the left will only bring about another world war. The Russians didn't cause Hillary to lose. She was the cause along with the hate the left are promoting.
 
jnug said:
More Russians have fought and died in wars than Americans by a wide margin. They are likely tired of fighting and dying. They have likely given up fighting corruption as well. They have decided to join in. They have never accomplished any of their many transitions from Royalty through Bolshevism through Communism to their halfassed democracy in such a way as to not be overwhelmed by massive corruption.

Your initial POINT was that they have democracy now. They really don't. They simply have another wave of corruption, one focused much more at the top. They are really pretty close to being back to royalty with Putin often trying to find ways to attach himself to the Royal family. Russians are fine with that. Their lot in life is to now hope that Putin can rob and plunder Russia back to some sort of stature in the world.
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And who promised a second front but waited years to do it? Only after millions of Russians died slugging it out with the Germans did we finally invade Europe.
 
OscarLevant said:
The constitution in Russia is a sham whatever Putin says Putin does there is no justice if Putin doesn't want it

You think presidential elections and Russia are fair? Putin has been re-elected for every vote how is that possible?
He controls the media the counter him you die
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Sort of the way our constitution and government treated Black people, Native Americans, and Women. It took over 100 years for freedom to reach the people of this country from the time the paper was drafted. Well more like 200+ years. Maybe 300+ years. Maybe it will take a lot longer from the looks of things in this country. We are still exploiting illegal aliens. Oh that's right we cannot afford to have clothes without slaves to pick the cotton. I mean be able to afford food without illegals to pick the food for slave wages. Wrong century. Sorry.
 
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PIPEWRENCH said:
And who promised a second front but waited years to do it? Only after millions of Russians died slugging it out with the Germans did we finally invade Europe.
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You think launching a cross-channel invasion is as easy as snapping your fingers? Hell, even after 2 years of preparation, it was still a near-run thing.
 
trouble13 said:
1. How do you know the Ukraines did not attempt to influence the election?
2. When you say we know the Russians attempted to influence our elections, what are you basing that on?

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Lol it was documented that they tried to meddle in the election. There people on their side charged for trying to help the Clinton campaign lmao


These people do not know what conspiracy theories are.

On top of that a clinton campaign member met with the Ukrainian government in attempt to gain dirt on trump.

This was all in the news.
 
ludin said:
Lol it was documented that they tried to meddle in the election. There people on their side charged for trying to help the Clinton campaign lmao


These people do not know what conspiracy theories are.

On top of that a clinton campaign member met with the Ukrainian government in attempt to gain dirt on trump.

This was all in the news.
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Putin's IRA was a massive campaign, millions were spent, it was a highly organized Putin directed military hacking and social media bot campaign which was extensively documented in great detail by the Mueller report.


So, a couple of dudes in Ukraine did what, talk to the Hillary campaign?


Are you kidding me?

In fact, that story is Russian disinformation, the kind of which they have a long history of being the master of.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
They should be a part of NATO. We should be leading by example not becoming the Socialist States of America the big government that the left wants. Russia should be our ally along with Europe. This promoting of hate by the left will only bring about another world war. The Russians didn't cause Hillary to lose. She was the cause along with the hate the left are promoting.
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The left the left the left
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PIPEWRENCH said:
And who promised a second front but waited years to do it? Only after millions of Russians died slugging it out with the Germans did we finally invade Europe.
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What has that got to do with your initial point that Russia has democracy now?
 
ludin said:
Lol it was documented that they tried to meddle in the election. There people on their side charged for trying to help the Clinton campaign lmao


These people do not know what conspiracy theories are.

On top of that a clinton campaign member met with the Ukrainian government in attempt to gain dirt on trump.

This was all in the news.
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All of our allies meddle in US elections. There is an ocean of dif between the meddling of an ally in a US election and the maligned election interference sponsored and managed from the very top of the government of an adversarial nation state which is what Russia did.
 
OscarLevant said:
Putin's IRA was a massive campaign, millions were spent, it was a highly organized Putin directed military hacking and social media bot campaign which was extensively documented in great detail by the Mueller report.


So, a couple of dudes in Ukraine did what, talk to the Hillary campaign?


Are you kidding me?

In fact, that story is Russian disinformation, the kind of which they have a long history of being the master of.
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Leftist denial fallacies are no longer valid.
It was top Ukrainian government workers that reached out to the clinton staff. There were meetings and everything.

Also the Ukrainian court just charged a few more government officials for meddling.

No where was Russia mentioned in those court cases. So if the Ukrainian courts charge their own people for meddling that would be called a fact.

The only Russian disinformation campaign was the Steelers report. The entire thing was proven false, and full of Russian disinformation.
 
bradt99 said:
The left hated Lincoln, I mean one of their own did shoot him in the back of the head.
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lol.

The right thinks Trump is a better president than Lincoln.

Pretty sure by today's standards, Lincoln is a leftist.
 
Chomsky said:
You are watching pure unadulterated lust & greed for power.
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The projection is overwhelming from this one.

3 1/2 years of obsessed action attempting to erase the will of 63 million voters, and it's Republican lust & greed for power?

Total vaporization of any credibility....
 
independentusa said:
GOP Intelligence Committee Chairman Refuses To Knock Down Ukraine Conspiracy Theory | HuffPost
It is like the whole GOP has gone crazy and that they will do anything. believe anything to protect Trump. Now they have all gotten behind it was Ukraine that interfered with our elections, even though all of our intelligence agencies and all of our allies know it was the Russians. I am so flabbergasted by what they are doing and saying that it is hard to even argue with such stupidity. The idea that a small poor country did everything we know the Russians did is hard enough to believe, but to use Russian talking points boggles the mind. The party that supposedly hates the "Commies" is now spouting their talking points to save this president makes me wonder if any of them have any morals or love of this country left in them. I guess they have gone through all of the other talking points and this is what is left, mouthing Russian ones.
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This is what is happening! They are Morphing.

Morphing.webp
 
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