What attracts anti-abortion males to this site?

[OceanBlues1]

Nah, it's women themselves with their unplanned pregnancies that are the burden.

And abortion is a good way for women who don't want to stay pregnant and give birth to avoid that burden. So if a woman avoids that "burden" by getting an abortion, there's nothing to complain about, is there.

 

[smallvoice]

The point you missed was that both your daughter and daughter-in-law wanted to be mothers. Not all women do. And if a woman doesn't want to stay pregnant, it's her right to have an abortion, whether she's related to you or not. Daughters don't "owe" their parents grandchildren.

If they "don't want to get pregnant", they MUST use measures that preclude pregnancy. It's on them, basically. You do know what sex organs are actually for, don't you?

 

[smallvoice]

That's your opinion, but no one has to live by it unless they want to do so. Nor do you get to define "responsibility" for anyone else but yourself. Just because a woman doesn't ever want children doesn't mean she should be forced to remain celibate for life as punishment. And this applies to men as well.

No, that is the responsible approach to the "problem". EVERY pro-choice (read pro-abortion) type displays gross irresponsibility.

 

[smallvoice]

Translation: Women know more than I do and it pisses me off.

No, what he said was women think they know more than anyone and when they find out they are wrong, it pisses them off.

 

[Scrabaholic]

If they "don't want to get pregnant", they MUST use measures that preclude pregnancy. It's on them, basically. You do know what sex organs are actually for, don't you?

There is no law mandating contraception. It should be used, but even if it isn't, a woman can abort an unwanted pregnancy.

 

[smallvoice]

There is no law mandating contraception. It should be used, but even if it isn't, a woman can abort an unwanted pregnancy.

There is no law mandating contraception. It must be used to assure, as much as possible, that an "unwanted" pregnancy doesn't occur. But even if it isn't, a stupid woman can abort an unwanted pregnancy.

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[weaver2]

No, what he said was women think they know more than anyone and when they find out they are wrong, it pisses them off.

Nah, what he said, after he got gratuitous name calling out of his system, is that women pretend abortion is a women's issue and Sanger started the abortion movement. Which just goes to prove poor sap doesn't now jack about the abortion issue, women, Margaret Sanger, or the organization she started.

Always a good idea to check what you are responding to and double check if you know what you're talking about before you post drivel.

 

[Scrabaholic]

There is no law mandating contraception. It must be used to assure, as much as possible, that an "unwanted" pregnancy doesn't occur. But even if it isn't, a stupid woman can abort an unwanted pregnancy.

There, I fixed it for you.

When you said that it MUST be used, that would imply there's a law mandating it.

 

[tosca1]

Ninety percent of the males that post on the abortion site are rabidly anti-abortion. They post statements about the law, women, abortion, pregnancy, fetuses that are simply untrue. They make accusations about women that are ignorant and rude. They ignore sourced material proving them to be lying and go right back to posting the same lies. They make up impossible situations then demand women defend themselves against these nonsense scenarios.

Why do they post here? They don't have a good grasp of the subject. Are they trying to scold women into abandoning the pro-choice position? Teach them who is boss. Shame shame women into obedience?


Anti-abortion men; what's your purpose for being on this thread?

I can tell you why.

CHIVALRY................... IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL!
Pro-life men are honorable men! They are fighting for the vulnerable! They are speaking out for the future of mankind.


Lol. Compare that to pro-choice men who no doubt only want to be free of any accountability for their sexual irresponsibilities!
They're fighting for pro-choice for their own self-interest.

Either that or..... pro-choice men are sucking up to the feminist movement......

....because.......:lol:..............

.................pro-choice men are a bunch of .........******s! :lamo

 

[tosca1]

Can you please explain why you value an 'innocence' of nothingness?

"innocence of nothingness?" What cockamamie phrase is that? :lol:

What "nothingness" are you on about?
Why, haven't you seen a fetus? Not even a picture? Lol, that's pathetic.



He is not a "nothing." He is called, a fetus - the early stage of development in a human being.

You were once that way, too - you'll never be as you are now without having gone through that stage.
Therefore, don't say it's nothing. Being conceived is the very first step to your becoming. It's EVERYTHING!



Here, let me help you. Here's what an unborn looks like. And, as you can see - he is not invisible!







Oh boy....pro-choice people , a lot of them must have been frustrated stand-up comic? :lol:

 

[weaver2]

I can tell you why.

CHIVALRY................... IS STILL ALIVE AND WELL!
Pro-life men are honorable men! They are fighting for the vulnerable! They are speaking out for the future of mankind.


Lol. Compare that to pro-choice men who no doubt only want to be free of any accountability for their sexual irresponsibilities!
They're fighting for pro-choice for their own self-interest.

Either that or..... pro-choice men are sucking up to the feminist movement......

....because.......:lol:..............

.................pro-choice men are a bunch of .........******s! :lamo

Interesting. Chivalry is men telling women to carry every pregnancy to term. Yup, I'd say you're right, that's definitely speaking out for mankind. ................... and to hell with womankind that won't make babies. That's not chivalry; that just being an asshole. :lamo

 

[tosca1]

that just being an asshole. :lamo

That, too!

Someone fighting for pro-choice to farther his own interest.....so he keeps encouraging women to have the right to kill their children.
You know whose shoulders the whole reponsibility will fall on, do you? The hapless woman!

If there is anyone who fits being an a**hole to a T - it's pro-choice men!


That....and they're a bunch of ******s too. :lol:

 

[Lursa]

No, that is the responsible approach to the "problem". EVERY pro-choice (read pro-abortion) type displays gross irresponsibility.

Good lord you have seen this more than once and yet you continue to lie about it. Yes, abortion CAN BE a responsible choice. Your denial, your refusal to even acknowledge this list, shows that your mind is so blindly and rigidly closed that nothing can pry it open...that you choose to be wrong ad infinitum. I dont understand why people would rather reject facts and look so limited.

Thank goodness for cut and paste:

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less child that's waiting will find a home.​

Again, since this list is accurate, how can you continue to claim that abortion is irresponsible?

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[tosca1]

Good lord you have seen this more than once and yet you continue to lie about it. Yes, abortion CAN BE a responsible choice. Your denial, your refusal to even acknowledge this list, shows that your mind is so blindly and rigidly closed that nothing can pry it open...that you choose to be wrong ad infinitum. I dont understand why people would rather reject facts and look so limited.

Thank goodness for cut and paste:

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you cant afford and expecting tax payers to take up that burden with public assistance.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid you arent emotionally prepared to have and may abuse or neglect.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid if you know you wont stop drinking, smoking, doing drugs, etc that will damage the unborn.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant and dropping out of high school or college or missing work and not fulfilling your potential in society.

--There's nothing responsible about remaining pregnant/having a child and not being able to fulfill your other commitments and obligations to family, dependents, employer, church, community, society.

--There's nothing responsible about having a kid and giving it up for adoption when there are already over 100,000 kids in America waiting to be adopted. It means one less child that's waiting will find a home.​

Again, since this list is accurate, how can you continue to claim that abortion is irresponsible?

Those are all AFTER THE FACT! Responsibility my foot!


On the contrary -

abortion is the evil and cowardly way of shirking away from the responsibility, which was created by an irresponsible action!


Since it's her body and her choice - the onus is more on her to ensure she had protected sex!



If you want to talk about responsibility - it should've been practiced before the dimwit had created a human being inside her!

 

[Lursa]

"innocence of nothingness?" What cockamamie phrase is that? :lol:

What "nothingness" are you on about?
Why, haven't you seen a fetus? Not even a picture? Lol, that's pathetic. http://www.sherv.net/

He is not a "nothing." He is called, a fetus - the early stage of development in a human being.

You were once that way, too - you'll never be as you are now without having gone through that stage.
Therefore, don't say it's nothing. Being conceived is the very first step to your becoming. It's EVERYTHING!

Here, let me help you. Here's what an unborn looks like. And, as you can see - he is not invisible!

Oh boy....pro-choice people , a lot of them must have been frustrated stand-up comic? :lol:

It's not surprising that you cannot read properly. I wrote that the 'innocence' of the unborn is the same as that of a flower or couch...emptiness, 'nothingness.' Not that the unborn is nothingness.

And then I asked why someone would value an 'innocence of emptiness, a vacuum?' What is there to value there, when it's the same capacity as a flower or couch? Can you explain, now that I've tried to spell it out for you? Should we protect flowers and couches too because of their 'innocence?' :roll:


And btw, I worked as training developer for clinicians on ultrasound machines for 3 years. I have seen many 'live' unborn in the womb. :roll:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[Lursa]

Those are all AFTER THE FACT! Responsibility my foot!

On the contrary[/SIZE] -

abortion is the evil and cowardly way of shirking away from the responsibility which was created by an irresponsible action![/SIZE]

If you want to talk about responsibility - it should be practice before the dimwit had created a human being inside her!

So? They are still responsible actions. Abortion is a responsible act...that list proves it.

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's not true. You might want to keep that in mind...that your emotions and beliefs dont change reality.

Most couples do use bc and have sex responsibly, but you know very well it's not 100% effective. Too bad if you have issues with couples enjoying and sharing sex. That's your problem.

Lordy, the hysteria in your posts is palpable.

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[tosca1]

It's not surprising that you cannot read properly. I wrote that the 'innocence' of the unborn is the same as that of a flower or couch...emptiness, 'nothingness.' Not that the unborn is nothingness.

Still a cockamie phrase! :lol:

Lol....I know you're in a poetic mode - but your imageries suck.



Poetry................ does not hide the...... calculatingly cold and ugly evil....... of butchering a baby!

 

[Lursa]

Still a cockamie phrase! :lol:

Lol....I know you're in a poetic mode - but your imageries suck.

Poetry................ does not hide the...... cold, ugly evil....... of butchering a baby!

And I see the hysteria continues and you are unable to actually articulate an argument. That means you cannot justify your own :mrgreen:

Which I'm already aware of.




"Poetry?" Good lord your posts are barely teetering on reality. :roll:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[tosca1]

So? They are still responsible actions. Abortion is a responsible act...that list proves it.

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean it's not true. You might want to keep that in mind...that your emotions and beliefs dont change reality.

Most couples do use bc and have sex responsibly, but you know very well it's not 100% effective. Too bad if you have issues with couples enjoying and sharing sex. That's your problem.

Lordy, the hysteria in your posts is palpable.

If I sound "hysterical" (which I think is an overstatement), it is because I find the ongoing murders of any human, let alone the most defenseless.....
...................a matter of serious concern (which is an understatement).


You may find the slaughter of the unborn as something to discuss much like you'd discuss the weather......I can understand that kind of attitude by pro-choice.

From most of the posts here, that kind of psychopathic coldness seems to be second nature to a lot of pro-choice people.

 

[Lursa]

If I sound "hysterical" (which I think is an overstatement), it is because I find the ongoing murders of any human, let alone the most defenseless.....
...................a matter of serious concern (which is an understatement).


You may find the slaughter of the unborn as something to discuss much like you'd discuss the weather......I can understand that kind of attitude by pro-choice.

From most of the posts here, that kind of psychopathic coldness seems to be second nature to a lot of pro-choice people.

And I see the hysteria continues and you are unable to actually articulate an argument. That means you cannot justify your own :mrgreen:

Which I'm already aware of.




"Poetry?" Good lord your posts are barely teetering on reality. :roll:

This is the barely coherent and grammatically inept speech of a man who desperately wants to be able to claim that he "cured coronavirus."

That's it, in a nutshell. When we do get a handle on this crisis, he wants to be able to pull out footage and declare "I called it! I said use this! I said try this! I told them to do this, it was my idea!" He's just doing it with lots of stupid stuff because he doesnt want to miss an opportunity. He's afraid 'the big one' will be mentioned and he wont get credit for it.

It's all about declaring himself the savior of the cv crisis and we'll hear all about it, esp in his campaign. (Which is basically each of his press briefings these days) --- Lursa

 

[weaver2]

That, too!

Someone fighting for pro-choice to farther his own interest.....so he keeps encouraging women to have the right to kill their children.
You know whose shoulders the whole reponsibility will fall on, do you? The hapless woman!

If there is anyone who fits being an a**hole to a T - it's pro-choice men!


That....and they're a bunch of ******s too. :lol:

Looking more and more like the asshole and less and less like the chivalrous male.

 

[weaver2]

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The picture on the video, which doesn't seem to work, implies that this is the stage at which the fetus is aborted. The idea being conveyed is that women are aborting babies. They aren't . Women abort before the 12 to 14 week old fetus shown on your post


Week distribution for when abortions are performed
1-6 weeks. 34.2%
7 weeks. 17.8%———-52%
8 weeks. 13.3%———-65.3%
9 weeks. 8.9%———74.2%
10 weeks. 5.6%———79.8%
11 weeks. 4.7%———84.5%
12 weeks 3.5%———88%
13 weeks. 2.8%———90.8%——end of 1st trimester
14-15 weeks. 3.5%———95.5%
16-17 weeks. 2.1%———96.4%
18-20weeks 2.0%———98.4%—start of “late term”
21st week or later 1.3%

Notice that 90 to 95% of all abortions are done before the 13th to 15th weeks; the age of the fetus in your post. 3 to 4 % of abortions happen between the 13 and 15th week

74% of all abortions have taken place on or before the 9th week when the fetus is less than an inch long and weigh .07 ounces. 9th week fetus
84.5% of all abortions have taken place on or before the 11th week when the fetus is 1.6 inches long and weighs .2 ounce
95% of all abortions have taken place on or before the 14th week when the fetus is 3.4 inches long and weighs 1.5 ounces and looks like the picture you posted.

The anti-abortion movement likes to claim women are aborting fetuses that are the size and looks of a near full term fetus. It's one of their more stupid and vicious lies, propagated in order to to make women into immoral baby killing monsters instead of intelligent women making a decision about the wisdom of bringing a child into a family that can't support a child at that time.

In 2009 there were 6,369,000 pregnancies and 1,152,000 induced abortions. 1/6th of all pregnancies or 15% of all pregnancies are aborted. 85% of all pregnancies go to term unless spontaneous abortion occurs. The pro-choice movement would like to see many fewer abortions and is working to promote policies (honest, science based sex ed that works, access to inexpensive contraceptives that women control, health insurance that covers contraceptives, clinics that counsel and help with women's reproductive issues) that actually reduce instead of increasing unintended pregnancy like abstinence only sex-ed, banning of insurance covering birth control, defunding of reproductive clinics and conservative religious attitudes toward women.

This isn't the only conservative E&C Christian policy that is basically dishonest.

 

[smallvoice]

When you said that it MUST be used, that would imply there's a law mandating it.

No, but it MUST be used if you want any chance of not getting pregnant.

 

[Wayne Jr]

Ninety percent of the males that post on the abortion site are rabidly anti-abortion. They post statements about the law, women, abortion, pregnancy, fetuses that are simply untrue. They make accusations about women that are ignorant and rude. They ignore sourced material proving them to be lying and go right back to posting the same lies. They make up impossible situations then demand women defend themselves against these nonsense scenarios.

Why do they post here? They don't have a good grasp of the subject. Are they trying to scold women into abandoning the pro-choice position? Teach them who is boss. Shame shame women into obedience?


Anti-abortion men; what's your purpose for being on this thread?

Probably the fact that Roe v Wade was decided by all men.

 

[weaver2]

To defend innocent life.

And women are not innocent because...............?