"We want to make what's intimate, public."

[Henrin]

Well, it's mighty convenient to have my wife on my health insurance and write her expenses off on my taxes. Or, if I die, that she gets the house, 401K and various insurance policies, plus any back-pay, without having to jump through fifteen million hoops.

Why does the government need to ensure that you can do that stuff?

 

[calamity]

Why does the government need to ensure that you can do that stuff?

Have you ever heard of probate?

 

[Henrin]

Have you ever heard of probate?

Do you have a point?

 

[AlbqOwl]

I guess you could consider me 'mainstream' as well.

I certainly do consider you that way based on our interaction here. I suspect you are much the same in real life as you are here.

Though we probably don't agree on all that much re politics, social issues, religion etc., I would most likely cherish you as a friend.

 

[calamity]

Do you have a point?

Do you?

 

[Henrin]

Do you?

I already told you my point.

 

[chuckiechan]

Who cares?

It's to lower the bar so young teenagers are easier to exploit since "everyone is doing it, your parents are just old fashioned".

 

[calamity]

I already told you my point.

not that i could see

 

[Henrin]

not that i could see

Why are marriage laws needed? Nothing you listed is actually needed in law and some of them like hospital visitation rights is actually unfair to people that are not married. The fact is marriage laws create preferential treatment for certain approved relationships, while everyone else gets jack squat.

 

[CLAX1911]

Well I don't know what Christians you know, but it certainly does for me.

well all Christians are sinners. Murderers and pedophiles claim you be Christian.

..there are businesses out there who are as crooked as a barrel of fish hooks...

Yeah they're largely the ones that hire people because their claims to be Christian.

 

[CLAX1911]

And they're "Christian" in name only...your point?

Nobody could really know the difference. Only God knows what you put in your heart. Anybody that claims to be Christian can say other people are Christian in name only if they disagree.

Like it or not it's meaningless to anybody but yourself.

 

[Daisy]

well all Christians are sinners. Murderers and pedophiles claim you be Christian.



Yeah they're largely the ones that hire people because their claims to be Christian.

And your point? You act as though you've discovered something new, something no one else knows...

Jesus made it clear there would be those claiming to be Christian but he will say "I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" Mathew 7:23

 

[Daisy]

Nobody could really know the difference. Only God knows what you put in your heart. Anybody that claims to be Christian can say other people are Christian in name only if they disagree.

Like it or not it's meaningless to anybody but yourself.

That is just not true...Jesus said "You will recognize them by their fruits: do people pick grapes from thorns or figs from cockleburs? thus every good tree produces good fruit, but a foul tree produces bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor a foul tree good fruit." Matthew 7:16-18

 

[RAMOSS]

Believe it or not, there are people out there who prefer to hire Christians...particularly the ones who walk the walk...

I find that when it comes to business, there are enough out there that will use that to gain trust.. but are much less likely that many to 'walk the walk. The need to advertise that to 'prove' you are more trustworthy often means the exact opposite

 

[calamity]

Why are marriage laws needed? Nothing you listed is actually needed in law and some of them like hospital visitation rights is actually unfair to people that are not married. The fact is marriage laws create preferential treatment for certain approved relationships, while everyone else gets jack squat.

Well, then get married.

 

[Daisy]

I find that when it comes to business, there are enough out there that will use that to gain trust.. but are much less likely that many to 'walk the walk. The need to advertise that to 'prove' you are more trustworthy often means the exact opposite

Well I don't deluge it to advertise...I have a purpose...in business, you know you can trust me but I will not do anything dishonest or against my faith...in personal areas, Paul said we are always to defend our faith...Jesus told us to witness...it should never be for selfish gain...

 

[RAMOSS]

Well I don't deluge it to advertise...I have a purpose...in business, you know you can trust me but I will not do anything dishonest or against my faith...in personal areas, Paul said we are always to defend our faith...Jesus told us to witness...it should never be for selfish gain...

In my experience, the businesses that advertise that are at least in not a bit more likely to be dishonest to people.

 

[CLAX1911]

And your point?

claiming to be Christian is meaningless to anyone but you.

You act as though you've discovered something new, something no one else knows...

I'm not acting that way I don't understand the point of that perhaps projecting some nonsense on to people who have made good points.

Jesus made it clear there would be those claiming to be Christian but he will say "I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness!" Mathew 7:23

Prove that's not describing you.

 

[CLAX1911]

Well I don't deluge it to advertise...I have a purpose...in business, you know you can trust me but I will not do anything dishonest or against my faith...in personal areas, Paul said we are always to defend our faith...Jesus told us to witness...it should never be for selfish gain...

All it says about you is that you claim to be Christian.

 

[CLAX1911]

In my experience, the businesses that advertise that are at least in not a bit more likely to be dishonest to people.

To advertise it is to Virtue signal. The only reason to Virtue signal is to make people think you're virtuous.

I am very very very suspicious of people that virtue signal.

 

[Henrin]

Well, then get married.

I shouldn't have to bind myself to a person to be treated equally under the law.

 

[CLAX1911]

It's a political ideology and as such deals with politics and government. Once again, the philosophy says nothing about socially accepted standards of behavior.

That's what the "let live" part means. Your behavior should meet the standards that it allows other people to live the way you wish to.

It's the fundamental bedrock of any socially accepted standards of behavior.

It's simply a Twist on the Golden Rule.

 

[Daisy]

claiming to be Christian is meaningless to anyone but you.

I'm not acting that way I don't understand the point of that perhaps projecting some nonsense on to people who have made good points.


Prove that's not describing you.

Prove I'm not...I guess you would have to know me IRL either way, so your argument is moot...

 

[RAMOSS]

To advertise it is to Virtue signal. The only reason to Virtue signal is to make people think you're virtuous.

I am very very very suspicious of people that virtue signal.

And, in my experience, you are rightfully suspicious of those who virtual signal. It's like the people at work that are very good at telling people how good they are at work, they know how to do that better than actually doing their job.

 

[Daisy]

And, in my experience, you are rightfully suspicious of those who virtual signal. It's like the people at work that are very good at telling people how good they are at work, they know how to do that better than actually doing their job.

But you know them IRL...the virtual world is entirely different...all we have here is words, and yes, I do believe you can get to know a person, to an extent through the written word...but it takes some time and we still go by a person's written word, not their RL actions...