We men are tired of ....

[Bodi]

But, you sure avoid what number western women give you.:lamo

One of the creepiest misogynistic ****s that I have knew was about 55 and kinda ugly, super religious baptist cult kinda guy and when he came back from Thailand, or someplace, he had a new bride that was about 20 years old that he completely dominated/oppressed. We felt very sorry for her but heard that she recently divorced him. It was about 5 years later. I assume that was either her plan from the start or she learned while she was here.

 

[SDET]

It sounds like he married someone with too much motivation. The sweet spot is to marry a woman with just enough motivation to do her domestic tasks. Of course nothing is free. The price you pay is her taking five years to pass a driver's test and almost twenty years to pass her citizenship test. Apply for a job? FUHGETABOUTIT! A certain amount of laziness is a benefit. It's not necessary to control someone whose biggest vice is laziness. When you don't control her, she just does nothing. Works for me! It's better to have someone that cringes when someone mentions getting a job. I hope that I live long enough not to leave her in a pinch. She can collect survivor's Social Security when she reaches retirement age.

One of the creepiest misogynistic ****s that I have knew was about 55 and kinda ugly, super religious baptist cult kinda guy and when he came back from Thailand, or someplace, he had a new bride that was about 20 years old that he completely dominated/oppressed. We felt very sorry for her but heard that she recently divorced him. It was about 5 years later. I assume that was either her plan from the start or she learned while she was here.

 

[jaeger19]

It's not socially acceptable for any adult not to work, I dont think. e.

Well except for women. because here you go:

However who says that child care and home upkeep are not work? Do we think that women that stay home to do those things arent working?

Exactly.. but a man would be seen as lazy and not working if he did that.

Re: sexual assault, I dont see at all that it's about 'not believing.' It's about reporting...and it's about a disparity of force.

Well.. it is about not believing.. and that's why men don't report as being sexually assaulted. And lets think about disparity of force.

IF..in a bar.. I touch a woman without permission on the butt. That's sexual assault. And the police are all over me if she complains.

If that woman touches me in the same manner.. do you think I am going to get the police to charge her with sexual assault? I'd be laughed at.

Same level of force.

Its kind of an incongruity in logic. Women (speaking in general).. will talk about how powerful women are.. and how they are just as tough..and capable as men. They should be cops, and firefighters.. play on the mens basketball teams.. wrestle etc (and I am not arguing here.. just pointing it out)…

BUT.. when it suits there purpose... these same women will then claim how fragile women are.. and how vulnerable.. and how weak compared to men and how much they are a victim. How terrible it is for these women in the workplace!..

 

[Lursa]

Well except for women. because here you go:

Exactly.. but a man would be seen as lazy and not working if he did that.

No, not exactly at all. I claimed that is untrue. Esp. not if the wife was working outside the home. The child/home responsibilities are very much viewed as work.

Well.. it is about not believing.. and that's why men don't report as being sexually assaulted. And lets think about disparity of force.

IF..in a bar.. I touch a woman without permission on the butt. That's sexual assault. And the police are all over me if she complains.

If that woman touches me in the same manner.. do you think I am going to get the police to charge her with sexual assault? I'd be laughed at.

Same level of force.

So nowhere there did you say the man wouldnt be believed. We're still at how he think's he'll be perceived. He's a victim and doesnt want to be seen as one. That's up to him, he has a choice to speak out or not.

Its kind of an incongruity in logic. Women (speaking in general).. will talk about how powerful women are.. and how they are just as tough..and capable as men. They should be cops, and firefighters.. play on the mens basketball teams.. wrestle etc (and I am not arguing here.. just pointing it out)…

BUT.. when it suits there purpose... these same women will then claim how fragile women are.. and how vulnerable.. and how weak compared to men and how much they are a victim. How terrible it is for these women in the workplace!..

Strength according to rules...work, sport...is controlled. Strength applied during violence is completely different. I never see women claim we are fragile. We arent as physically strong as men tho.

 

[SDET]

Not being believed has the same result as not being taken seriously. The woman would NOT be arrested.

I actually had that happen to me on a bus in Vitoria, Brazil. I glared at her and said "Get away from me, you pickpocketing piece of ****". Advice to men: if a strange woman starts touching you, no matter how attractive, she's likely a pickpocket.

No, not exactly at all. I claimed that is untrue. Esp. not if the wife was working outside the home. The child/home responsibilities are very much viewed as work.




So nowhere there did you say the man wouldnt be believed. We're still at how he think's he'll be perceived. He's a victim and doesnt want to be seen as one. That's up to him, he has a choice to speak out or not.



Strength according to rules...work, sport...is controlled. Strength applied during violence is completely different. I never see women claim we are fragile. We arent as physically strong as men tho.

 

[Bodi]

It sounds like he married someone with too much motivation. The sweet spot is to marry a woman with just enough motivation to do her domestic tasks. Of course nothing is free. The price you pay is her taking five years to pass a driver's test and almost twenty years to pass her citizenship test. Apply for a job? FUHGETABOUTIT! A certain amount of laziness is a benefit. It's not necessary to control someone whose biggest vice is laziness. When you don't control her, she just does nothing. Works for me! It's better to have someone that cringes when someone mentions getting a job. I hope that I live long enough not to leave her in a pinch. She can collect survivor's Social Security when she reaches retirement age.

It is also important to make sure that she has low self-esteem and has a fairly low IQ.

Of course, she has to be smokin' hot. That is just a given.

 

[SDET]

IQ has nothing to do with it. Low motivation with high IQ doesn't do much.

It is also important to make sure that she has low self-esteem and has a fairly low IQ.

Of course, she has to be smokin' hot. That is just a given.

 

[Bodi]

IQ has nothing to do with it. Low motivation with high IQ doesn't do much.

I'm just saying that you don't want her to be too intelligent because she might start figuring things out, realizing that she has rights and such. That is no good. Best to get a stupid girl with low self-esteem that you can manipulate and control. That type of woman is a keeper...

 

[SDET]

Even better is a right-wing anti-feminist ideologue who wears her anti-feminism as a badge of honor. Before Bolsonaro there was Severino Cavalcanti.

I'm just saying that you don't want her to be too intelligent because she might start figuring things out, realizing that she has rights and such. That is no good. Best to get a stupid girl with low self-esteem that you can manipulate and control. That type of woman is a keeper...

 

[Bodi]

Even better is a right-wing anti-feminist ideologue who wears her anti-feminism as a badge of honor. Before Bolsonaro there was Severino Cavalcanti.

Not sure if anti-social and uneducated are already on the list... but they really should be. Makes an ideal woman.

 

[GreatNews2night]

What a pathetic thread!

Real men have no problem whatsoever with women.

My wife is an intelligent, solid, resourceful, assertive, beautiful, sexy, classy professional who makes a six-figure salary (just like I do) and is beloved and admired by pretty much everybody she works with or befriends.

And this gorgeous woman loves me, and I love, respect, and admire her, and feel lucky everyday for having her. We've been together for decades and we continue to love, respect, and support each other.

I think that women are fabulous creatures. They are silky, good-smelling, soft, and have those very nice thingies called boobs. And while high intelligence is bestowed upon a minority of human beings, they have it to the exact same degree and frequency of their male counterparts.

Hating women is for losers.

 

[Bodi]

What a pathetic thread!

Real men have no problem whatsoever with women.

I have found that those that need to refer to themselves as Real Men are the most insecure of them all...

I think that women are fabulous creatures. They are silky, good-smelling, soft, and have those very nice thingies called boobs. And while high intelligence is bestowed upon a minority of human beings, they have it to the exact same degree and frequency of their male counterparts.

See... even your subconscious knows the truth... women are "creatures".

Hating women is for losers.

It is not about hating women... it is about putting them in their place.

 

[GreatNews2night]

Even better is a right-wing anti-feminist ideologue who wears her anti-feminism as a badge of honor. Before Bolsonaro there was Severino Cavalcanti.

I'm surprised that you know Severino Cavalcanti. You know, he is corrupt, and it was demonstrated that he was one of the beneficiaries of the bribing scheme known as "mensalinho" (by comparison with Lula's "mensalão"). He is an idiot. His victory when he ran for Speaker of the House was a fluke and an anomaly - and he renounced because of the "mensalinho" scandal. These days, he is back to obscurity, being the mayor of an insignificant town in the backward state of Pernambuco.

Ah, Bolsonaro, another idiot. He tries his best (or should I say his worst?) to be Trump's copycat (but without Trump's con man skills). And sure, his antiquated ideas were pioneered by Cavalcanti, so your phrase is actually correct.

This said, the alternative was worse. The Brazilian left wing is likely to be the most corrupt in the planet, and they completely destroyed the country, so I suppose Bolsonaro is a valid movement of the pendulum to the opposite side. Eventually that pendulum will settle in the middle. I hope so, for the sake of the nice Brazilian people. They've suffered with bad presidents for too long. Oh well, it's self-inflicted, because Brazil is a true democracy with no electoral fraud, so they actually did elect these idiots, people such as Collor, Lula, and Dilma, and now Bolsonaro.

It seems like in many presidential elections, Brazilians elect the very worst candidate, like we did here, last time...

Although, in the defense of Brazilian voters, I do think that this last time Bolsonaro was the lesser evil, as opposed to bringing the extremely corrupt PT (Worker's Party) back to power, which would have resulted in Brazil becoming the new Venezuela.

Hey, at least, Brazil's first lady is pretty cute!

 

[SDET]

Note that I'm not pushing the notion of "real men" in this thread. Actually, it's about doing whatever the heck you want without being hassled for it.

I have found that those that need to refer to themselves as Real Men are the most insecure of them all...



See... even your subconscious knows the truth... women are "creatures".



It is not about hating women... it is about putting them in their place.

 

[GreatNews2night]

I have found that those that need to refer to themselves as Real Men are the most insecure of them all...



See... even your subconscious knows the truth... women are "creatures".



It is not about hating women... it is about putting them in their place.

We are all creatures. You. Me. All women. All men. Cats. Dogs. Fish. Bugs. And so on.

Nothing wrong with being creatures. That's what we are.

I'm just saying that real men don't hate women. All real men, as a group. I'm not necessarily singling myself out, or calling myself a real man. Although... thinking about it, yes, I am one. Why? Because I'm not worried at all about things like the facade of masculinity, virility, etc. I'm just me. I seem to do alright, given that I'm quite sufficient to my gorgeous wife.

Putting them in their place? My wife's place is right by my side, in equal grounds. We have different areas of expertise, they are supplemental, we admire each other for our different skills, and we run this family pretty efficiently, as demonstrated by our two kids (a girl and a boy) being very accomplished, themselves.

Men who experience the need to "put women in their place" are the insecure and pathetic ones.

Well, as a matter of fact, I do put my wife in her place: a pedestal. I worship that gorgeous creature. She is something!

My main goal in our relationship, is to make her happy. It is not to make myself happy. It's to make her happy.

Fortunately, her main goal as far as our relationship is concerned, seems to be to make me happy. So it works.

My late uncle, a very wise man, gave me this advice when I was a teenager, and was having some girlfriend trouble: "Son, the secret to a good relationship with a woman, is that you shouldn't try to find a way for her to make you happy. You should always strive to make her happy. Then it naturally follows that she'll do the same thing for you."

Try that, and you'll stop hating women.

So you say that uneducated women are ideal, and I'm the insecure one? What do you find threatening in educated women? Will they undermine your masculinity? LOL

My wife holds a doctoral degree and makes six figures. And that's one of the things I admire her for. It doesn't threaten me at all... and I'm the insecure one? Yeah, right.

 

[eohrnberger]

I agree with all except for a small modification at the end. I would have said, cross our arms and stop working.

I'd have to agree. I think your proposed ending would have been better than the one that was presented.

 

[SDET]

We are all creatures. You. Me. All women. All men. Cats. Dogs. Fish. Bugs. And so on.

Nothing wrong with being creatures. That's what we are.

I'm just saying that real men don't hate women. All real men, as a group. I'm not necessarily singling myself out, or calling myself a real man. Although... thinking about it, yes, I am one. Why? Because I'm not worried at all about things like the facade of masculinity, virility, etc. I'm just me. I seem to do alright, given that I'm quite sufficient to my gorgeous wife.

Putting them in their place? My wife's place is right by my side, in equal grounds. We have different areas of expertise, they are supplemental, we admire each other for our different skills, and we run this family pretty efficiently, as demonstrated by our two kids (a girl and a boy) being very accomplished, themselves.

Men who experience the need to "put women in their place" are the insecure and pathetic ones.

Well, as a matter of fact, I do put my wife in her place: a pedestal. I worship that gorgeous creature. She is something!

My main goal in our relationship, is to make her happy. It is not to make myself happy. It's to make her happy.

Fortunately, her main goal as far as our relationship is concerned, seems to be to make me happy. So it works.

My late uncle, a very wise man, gave me this advice when I was a teenager, and was having some girlfriend trouble: "Son, the secret to a good relationship with a woman, is that you shouldn't try to find a way for her to make you happy. You should always strive to make her happy. Then it naturally follows that she'll do the same thing for you."

Try that, and you'll stop hating women.

"You can't please everyone, so you got to please yourself!"

 

[eohrnberger]

Note that I'm not pushing the notion of "real men" in this thread. Actually, it's about doing whatever the heck you want without being hassled for it.

I think that's selling the message presented short. There are a lot of social ills, bad public policies, mal-adaptive cultural facets that are being drawn attention to.

Men and women are different. Biological fact.
Men and women tend to excel at different things because of their biological differences. Fact.

Treating them both the same in all instances is doing them both a disfavor.

 

[GreatNews2night]

I think that's selling the message presented short. There are a lot of social ills, bad public policies, mal-adaptive cultural facets that are being drawn attention to.

Men and women are different. Biological fact.
Men and women tend to excel at different things because of their biological differences. Fact.

Treating them both the same in all instances is doing them both a disfavor.

That's what I said, that my wife and I have different skills and areas of expertise, and we supplement each other and therefore run a pretty efficient family and household.
Being different doesn't mean being superior or inferior.
Women are the equals of men. It doesn't mean that their are the same as men. Vive la différence.

 

[Lursa]

I think that's selling the message presented short. There are a lot of social ills, bad public policies, mal-adaptive cultural facets that are being drawn attention to.

Men and women are different. Biological fact.
Men and women tend to excel at different things because of their biological differences. Fact.

Treating them both the same in all instances is doing them both a disfavor.

How is forcing them to act in a way they feel is unnatural or against their talents and skills and gifts "better?"

(Not that you wrote 'force,' but why would you ever treat someone in a manner that they didnt want to be treated?)

 

[beefheart]

Note that I'm not pushing the notion of "real men" in this thread. Actually, it's about doing whatever the heck you want without being hassled for it.

Oh, come on.

You posted this giant pile of crap, and your postings support this misogynistic woman fearing garbage every day.

Own your fears and obsessions. Everyone sees it, god knows you make enough creepy assed threads about how you can't live in a normal society because you are so utterly terrified by women that you have to seek out uneducated women from 3rd world countries that you can emotionally abuse for your sexual gratification.

 

[beefheart]

That's what I said, that my wife and I have different skills and areas of expertise, and we supplement each other and therefore run a pretty efficient family and household.
Being different doesn't mean being superior or inferior.
Women are the equals of men. It doesn't mean that their are the same as men. Vive la différence.

Same here, my partner is every bit my equal and often my better, we are like a hand and a glove. We are so alike and so equal in our goofiness that is really is kinda scary, but so freaking endearing.

The OP will never ever experience an actual loving experience, and the fact that he has to share his terror and fear every damned day here just shows how scary some people are.

 

[eohrnberger]

That's what I said, that my wife and I have different skills and areas of expertise, and we supplement each other and therefore run a pretty efficient family and household.
Being different doesn't mean being superior or inferior.
Women are the equals of men. It doesn't mean that their are the same as men. Vive la différence.

Seems we have some common ground. However, I would draw attention to the what I would call the unfair travesty happening in women's athletics.

 

[eohrnberger]

How is forcing them to act in a way they feel is unnatural or against their talents and skills and gifts "better?"

(Not that you wrote 'force,' but why would you ever treat someone in a manner that they didnt want to be treated?)

I wrote 'force'?

Reality doesn't cater to the delusions that some purport.

 

[Lursa]

I wrote 'force'?

I wrote that you did not.