We are no longer the United States of America

[JustHanging]

There is nothing wrong with this. (Refusing to rent to blacks)

Yeah, I understand. Since Trump, racism has become a "normal" part of American life.

Research Finds That Racism, Sexism, and Status Fears Drove Trump Voters

I'll be honest, I find it very sad that there are so many racists in the USA. And that discriminating against blacks is fine with so many people. Even you.

Just out of curiosity, would you also be OK with making blacks use a different door to enter an establishment?

What is so bad about being a racist? Because you say so?

Hmmm, never mind. I think you just answered my last question.

Anyways, because it hurts humanity, and makes the world worse for everyone in it. Just look at what it's done to your country. No thanks!

 

[Wan]

I'll be honest, I find it very sad that there are so many racists in the USA. And that discriminating against blacks is fine with so many people. Even you.

And I find it sad that there are so many liberals like you in the USA. Now we are even steven.

Just out of curiosity, would you also be OK with making blacks use a different door to enter an establishment?

You mean if I became powerful enough to make real changes? No, it would not be something trivial like making black people use a different door. I would allow people's right of self-determination and freedom of assembly. In other words, if white people want to live apart from black people and to exclude the latter from anything at all, they would be allowed to do so.

Anyways, because it hurts humanity, and makes the world worse for everyone in it

How does racism hurt the entire humanity? It looks like only minorities would be hurt by it. It also does not make the world worse for everybody. Only for the minorities.

 

[gfm7175]

You don't believe me?

Nope, I don't.

that is certainly your prerogative.

It sure is.

I truly don't care one iota if you do or not.

I don't believe you.

I am not on trial here,

Correct.

Trump is and if he is guilty of what I say he is guilty of,

Void Argument. What do you say he is guilty of?

then you will suffer as much as I will (or more given that you fell hook, line, and sinker for his scam and that is difficult to forgive oneself).

Continued Void Argument. What scam?

Keep on fooling yourself and trying to quiet voices of reason like mine.

Continued Void Argument.

What I am trying to do is make people wake up to the danger that Trump offers.

Continued Void Argument. What danger?

If you quiet me, it will not make the problem go away.

No one is trying to quiet you.

Continued Void Argument... What problem?

It will just keep you in your fantasy world

Define 'reality'...

until it collapses around you and your entire family and you will not have anyone but yourself to blame.

Continued Void Argument.

Hey, reality does suck, doesn't it.

Define 'reality'...

Do try to make an actual argument next time...

 

[Harshaw]

There is nothing preventing the implementation of those 'socialist' (bolded above) ideals (massive income redistribution programs?) at the state, county or city government level. Why, exactly, has no 'blue' state, county or city yet shown us the wonders of doing so? Do you suppose that they just might fear the exodus of "the rich" and an (uncontrollable?) inflow of "the poor"?

To be fair, a few have tried, but they gave up because it was too expensive.

 

[Luckyone]

Nope, I don't.


It sure is.


I don't believe you.


Correct.


Void Argument. What do you say he is guilty of?


Continued Void Argument. What scam?


Continued Void Argument.


Continued Void Argument. What danger?


No one is trying to quiet you.

Continued Void Argument... What problem?


Define 'reality'...


Continued Void Argument.


Define 'reality'...

Do try to make an actual argument next time...

Void argument (yours)! What valid argument would suit you? After all, most of what I said in the post you responded to is opinion (mine) and therefore not something you can disprove at this time, meaning that your answers are the same as mine............pure opinion.

I didn't see you make any statements based on fact.

As such, you are doing the exact same thing I am doing but you are telling me I am wrong, meaning that using the same thinking, you are wrong as well.

What a beautiful dichotomy. I never expect anything less from a Trump supporter. All you are doing is aping Trump. Pure scam and words that are never backed up with reality or fact.

Keep it up, you are getting an "A" from the teacher (Trump).

By the way, just in case you are not bright enough to understand, the last comment is not a compliment.

 

[gfm7175]

Void argument (yours)!

Not sure if this is a mockery mantra, an Inversion Fallacy, or both...

What valid argument would suit you?

An argument which follows the axioms of Logic.

After all, most of what I said in the post you responded to is opinion (mine)

There wasn't even any opinion there; just a bunch of buzzwords that you never defined.

and therefore not something you can disprove at this time,

There's nothing present for me to "disprove"...

meaning that your answers are the same as mine............pure opinion.

My answer, in short, was calling your argument a Void Argument. That term comes from Logic, which is a closed functional system. There is no opinion of mine involved here...

I didn't see you make any statements based on fact.

A fact is not a universal truth, nor is it a proof. Learn what a fact is...

As such, you are doing the exact same thing I am doing but you are telling me I am wrong, meaning that using the same thinking, you are wrong as well.

You didn't argue anything. Your argument was void. It was based on buzzwords.

What a beautiful dichotomy.

No dichotomy...

I never expect anything less from a Trump supporter.

Composition Fallacy, specifically Bigotry.

All you are doing is aping Trump.

I am my own person.

Pure scam and words that are never backed up with reality or fact.

Define 'scam'... define 'reality'... define 'fact'... You are basing your argument on buzzwords... You are making a Void Argument.

Keep it up, you are getting an "A" from the teacher (Trump).

Void Argument.

By the way, just in case you are not bright enough to understand, the last comment is not a compliment.

'Lack of intelligence' mantra dismissed. Try substantive reasoning next time.

 

[ttwtt78640]

To be fair, a few have tried, but they gave up because it was too expensive.

Of course, it's expensive that is always the definition for the need to solve the "access to" problem. What cannot be explained is how services (like K-12 and college education) which are now publicly funded are also experiencing cost growth that exceeds inflation and population growth.

 

[Lethargic Aptitude]

There is nothing preventing the implementation of those 'socialist' (bolded above) ideals (massive income redistribution programs?) at the state, county or city government level. Why, exactly, has no 'blue' state, county or city yet shown us the wonders of doing so? Do you suppose that they just might fear the exodus of "the rich" and an (uncontrollable?) inflow of "the poor"?

Perhaps no one actually wants to do that that isnt some loon?

 

[Luckyone]

Not sure if this is a mockery mantra, an Inversion Fallacy, or both...


An argument which follows the axioms of Logic.


There wasn't even any opinion there; just a bunch of buzzwords that you never defined.


There's nothing present for me to "disprove"...


My answer, in short, was calling your argument a Void Argument. That term comes from Logic, which is a closed functional system. There is no opinion of mine involved here...


A fact is not a universal truth, nor is it a proof. Learn what a fact is...


You didn't argue anything. Your argument was void. It was based on buzzwords.


No dichotomy...


Composition Fallacy, specifically Bigotry.


I am my own person.


Define 'scam'... define 'reality'... define 'fact'... You are basing your argument on buzzwords... You are making a Void Argument.


Void Argument.


'Lack of intelligence' mantra dismissed. Try substantive reasoning next time.

Thumbs up to you! you won the effort game as I have no desire to expend the effort to answer your fantasy responses.

 

[gfm7175]

Thumbs up to you! you won the effort game as I have no desire to expend the effort to answer your fantasy responses.

When you can handle intellectual conversation beyond the kiddie splash pool, let me know.

 

[Luckyone]

When you can handle intellectual conversation beyond the kiddie splash pool, let me know.

I just wrote on my calendar to let you know when I can handle intellectual conversations with fantasy debaters. Unfortunately, I think I am too old to have fantasies anymore. Reality has hit me in the head so many times in my life that it seems all I can do is look at reality. As such, don't hold your breath, it is highly unlikely to be in this lifetime.

Then again, perhaps we can resume our debate when you are in hell (next to Trump) and I am in heaven (next to God) who appreciates the morals, ethics, principles and humanity that I have shown in my life.

I wish you well, given that at some time in the not too distant future, you will need it. Trump is like the scorpion that wanted to cross the river and asked a frog to help him. The frog said "no way, you will sting me". The Scorpion said "no, I will not, we will be helping each other and I will not sting you". The frog accepted and half way across the river the scorpion bit him and as they were both dying, the frog asked why he had lied and stung him and the scorpion said "it's my nature to lie and to sting".

 

[Luckyone]

How does racism hurt the entire humanity? It looks like only minorities would be hurt by it. It also does not make the world worse for everybody. Only for the minorities.

Careful there, given that the Republicans are the minority in the U.S. (2018: Democrats lead GOP by 12 million registered voters, 40% D, 29% R, 28% I). Given your comment, you cannot debate the issue when the Democrats are racist against you.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/2018-democrats-lead-gop-by-12-million-registered-voters

 

[Into the Night]

Void argument (yours)!

Inversion fallacy.

What valid argument would suit you?

Any. A fallacy is not a valid argument.

After all, most of what I said in the post you responded to is opinion (mine) and therefore not something you can disprove at this time, meaning that your answers are the same as mine............pure opinion.

Contextomy fallacy.

I didn't see you make any statements based on fact.

Void argument fallacy.

As such, you are doing the exact same thing I am doing but you are telling me I am wrong, meaning that using the same thinking, you are wrong as well.

Inversion fallacy. Compositional error fallacy.

What a beautiful dichotomy. I never expect anything less from a Trump supporter. All you are doing is aping Trump. Pure scam and words that are never backed up with reality or fact.

Non-sequitur fallacy. Buzzword fallacy. Define 'reality'. Redefinition fallacy ('fact' as 'Universal Truth). Learn what a 'fact' is.

Keep it up, you are getting an "A" from the teacher (Trump).

Trump is not handing out grades. Reification fallacy.

By the way, just in case you are not bright enough to understand, the last comment is not a compliment.

Insult fallacy.

Do you have a valid argument?

 

[Into the Night]

Thumbs up to you! you won the effort game as I have no desire to expend the effort to answer your fantasy responses.

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So you have no further arguments to present?

 

[Into the Night]

I just wrote on my calendar to let you know when I can handle intellectual conversations with fantasy debaters. Unfortunately, I think I am too old to have fantasies anymore. Reality has hit me in the head so many times in my life that it seems all I can do is look at reality. As such, don't hold your breath, it is highly unlikely to be in this lifetime.

Bulverism fallacy. Buzzword fallacy. Define 'reality'.

Then again, perhaps we can resume our debate when you are in hell (next to Trump)

Reification fallacy.

and I am in heaven (next to God) who appreciates the morals, ethics, principles and humanity that I have shown in my life.

Reification fallacy.

I wish you well, given that at some time in the not too distant future, you will need it. Trump is like the scorpion that wanted to cross the river and asked a frog to help him. The frog said "no way, you will sting me". The Scorpion said "no, I will not, we will be helping each other and I will not sting you". The frog accepted and half way across the river the scorpion bit him and as they were both dying, the frog asked why he had lied and stung him and the scorpion said "it's my nature to lie and to sting".

Non-sequitur fallacy. Insult fallacy.

Seems all you can do is rant and insult.