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Was Trump right to back the firing of Capt. Crozier

apdst said:
You ask for help through the chain of command. What he did was violate the chain of command, compromise the security of his ship and transmit casualty information through unauthorized channels.

What's he going to do during a battle, where his ship is crippled and 30% of his compliment is dead, or dying? Should he obey the rules of the service, or write a letter to the media?
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That's just pure over officious stupidity. He protected the ship by calling Bull****.

I don't answer non-related hypotheticals designed to support your goofy defense. :doh
 
Michael Cole said:
Just because Trump hates the troops doesn't mean you have to also.

Very conservative my ass.
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Obviously you don't understand how the service works. Stop being racist.
 
grip said:
That's just pure over officious stupidity. He protected the ship by calling Bull****.

I don't answer non-related hypotheticals designed to support your goofy defense. :doh
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How did his become infected? Why did he protect the ship from becoming infected? No other ship is infected like that.
 
apdst said:
The captian endangered the lives of every member of the armed forces.
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don't worry. Trump is probably gonna go after the guy's family now too.
 
Michael Cole said:
Except Trump. Rules don't apply to him.
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these Trump supporters are as far from Christianity and Law & Order as you can get.

it's perfect on this Sunday.
 
apdst said:
The service has rules. The captain violated those rules. As a senior officer, he knew better. He got what he deserved. He oughta be drummed out of the service.
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Yes, how DARE he care about the soldiers lives under him. He needed to stay out there so Trump didn't look bad, THAT'S what is important. You conservatives make me sick. Your comments are completely un-American and show that you want people to DIE to save your messiah Trump.
 
apdst said:
How did his become infected? Why did he protect the ship from becoming infected? No other ship is infected like that.
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How did almost every country in the world become infected? It's called a contagion for a reason. You see, people come in contact with other people or things that are infected and they get sick.
 
apdst said:
The captian endangered the lives of every member of the armed forces.
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Pffttt.... I have hear corporal snuffy's explanation here... How did the captain endanger the lives of every member of the armed forces?
 
on this Palm Sunday, Trump Republicans continue to defend the most non-Christian President possible for every thing he does.

these Trump Republicans don't follow Christ. they are the money changers that Christ threw out of the Temple. well, after they become welfare queens for awhile.
 
The Captain's failure...what caused him to lose his command...was that he didn't follow operational security. He allowed classified communications to fall into the hands of the public. ANY commander who does that sort of thing WILL be relieved of command.

In fact, during the Gulf War I was associated with an event that resulted in my Platoon Leader to be removed from his position and to be removed from the theater of war. He thought he was doing something good, but it resulted in civilian family members knowing...in advance...the date the ground war was set to kick off, the part my Company was to play and the part the 1st Cavalry Division was to play in the ground war.

We never saw him again.
 
sjmay said:
Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

He supports it - OMG He's a demagogue, doesn't care about the armed services

He opposes it - OMG He's a demagogue, doesn't back up the people he puts in charge etc.
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Good thing the mother****er could back up a criminal.
 
apdst said:
Obviously you don't understand how the service works. Stop being racist.
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:lamo

I'm a Vietnam-era veteran. Since you're so knowledgeable, I won't have to explain what that means.

I support the troops. I'm the real conservative here. You're an imposter, just like Trump.
 
Michael Cole said:
:lamo

I'm a Vietnam-era veteran. Since you're so knowledgeable, I won't have to explain what that means.

I support the troops. I'm the real conservative here. You're an imposter, just like Trump.
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Then you should understand that a serviceman doesn't get to throw the rulebook out the window because it's no longer convenient to follow the rules.
 
BlueTex said:
Pffttt.... I have hear corporal snuffy's explanation here... How did the captain endanger the lives of every member of the armed forces?
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He compromised the security of his ship. It could have started a war.
 
grip said:
How did almost every country in the world become infected? It's called a contagion for a reason. You see, people come in contact with other people or things that are infected and they get sick.
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No other ship in The United States Navy is infected; at least not infected on the scale of The Roosevelt. The captain should have done a better job of protecting his ship.
 
Praxas said:
Yes, how DARE he care about the soldiers lives under him. He needed to stay out there so Trump didn't look bad, THAT'S what is important. You conservatives make me sick. Your comments are completely un-American and show that you want people to DIE to save your messiah Trump.
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He betrayed the sailors under his command. He faiiled to protect his boat and then undermined discipline.
 
apdst said:
No other ship in The United States Navy is infected; at least not infected on the scale of The Roosevelt. The captain should have done a better job of protecting his ship.
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Shoukd every commander be fired if he has infections
 
Mycroft said:
The Captain's failure...what caused him to lose his command...was that he didn't follow operational security. He allowed classified communications to fall into the hands of the public. ANY commander who does that sort of thing WILL be relieved of command.
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Agreeably I haven't followed this closely, but I am a bit of a stickler for that. I have seen folks in this thread suggest that he put classified communications into the hands of the public.... but no one actually demonstrate that he has done so. Can you provide that, please?
 
apdst said:
No other ship in The United States Navy is infected; at least not infected on the scale of The Roosevelt. The captain should have done a better job of protecting his ship.
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Are you making the argument that disclosing the health status of the crew of his ship compromised the security of the entire armed forces while at the same time claiming to KNOW that no other ship is infected? How exactly do you know that little bit of info?
 
vegas giants said:
Shoukd every commander be fired if he has infections
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If he didn't do everything he could to protect his men, yes. Just like if a commander gets a bunch of his men killed on the battlefield because of incompetence, he should be relieved. Don't you agree?
 
apdst said:
If he didn't do everything he could to protect his men, yes. Just like if a commander gets a bunch of his men killed on the battlefield because of incompetence, he should be relieved. Don't you agree?
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Is that what this commander did?
 
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