[W:94]Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

[truthatallcost]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Proof of that is …………...

'Proof' being an official government document, which contradicts the official government document you have, correct?

 

[truthatallcost]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

President Bush's response of "All right. You've covered your ass"..came from a.. PDB linked to Bin Laden from several months earlier.

Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US - Wikipedia

Even Bush used the term 'cyoa', prior to 9/11, to say 'if you're right, and we get attacked, you've covered your own ass.' The red flags were every where, and those who should have acted didn't, BUT they are also those who lied in order to use the legacy of 9/11 to overthrow Iraq.

Who in their right mind gives a **** about the government version of things, at this point?

 

[mike2810]

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'Proof' being an official government document, which contradicts the official government document you have, correct?

See post 22
"One can believe the Committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong? "

Is it not true that specifics of the attack were not known to any US agency.

Who in there right minds give a rats about explanations made up by CT authors at this point.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

I do find some of the article's claims rather tendentious:

For nearly two decades, one of the most overlooked and little known arrests made in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks was that of the so-called “High Fivers,” or the “Dancing Israelis.”

No, it is yet another 9/11 conspiracy theory that surfaces from the depths every couple of years.

However, three of these photos — despite the heavy redaction and poor quality — are damning. Since 2001, even though the photos were never released until now, it had been known that one of the Israelis arrested — Sivan Kurzberg — was seen in a photo “holding a lighted lighter in the foreground, with the smoldering wreckage [of the twin towers] in the background,” according to Steven Noah Gordon, then-lawyer for the five Israelis, as cited in a New York Times report from November 2001.

In relation to the claim that at least two of these men were Mossad operatives, how does this provide damning evidence as claimed? It is insensitive and stupid, but not evidence of Mossad involvement. Actually, one would speculate to the opposite, and that is, Mossad operatives wouldn't be 'celebrating' or making fools of themselves in public, as they would be inconspicuous.

The picture of Kurzberg with the lit lighter appears to be photo #5 in the new FOIA release. Yet, the picture released includes a visible date of September 10, 2001, the day before the attacks, as do two other photos — images #7 and #8 in the collection — whereas all other photos with dates show only the month and the year (9 ‘01). The FOIA release did not provide any information as to the apparent discrepancy in dates.

They were Israeli nationals and the cameras were setup in Israel.

While this could be explained away as the camera in question being programmed with a slightly inaccurate date, that doesn’t seem to be the case for two reasons. First, only two out of the 14 pictures carry that date and, second, previously declassified FBI reports report an eyewitness adamantly stating that Sivan Kurzberg had visited the Doric Apartments on September 10, 2001 at around 3 p.m. with at least one other man, with whom he was conversing in a foreign language, and had identified himself as a “construction worker” to a tenant (page 61 of declassified FBI report).

The pics are from several cameras. IIRC, at least five were recovered. The article continues in a similar fashion.

If they were involved in 9/11, why were they released from custody?

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

From the link provided by T72
"In December 2006, a sixteen-month investigation by the US Senate Intelligence Committee concluded "Able Danger did not identify Mohamed Atta or any other 9/11 hijacker at any time prior to September 11, 2001", and dismissed other assertions that have fueled 9/11 conspiracy theories"

One can believe the Committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong?

LOL Mike. You're quoting from the Notorious Wikipedia, edited by any and all with an agenda. In the second place you're quoting from a government committee, any of which is more often propaganda than truth.

 

[mike2810]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

LOL Mike. You're quoting from the Notorious Wikipedia, edited by any and all with an agenda. In the second place you're quoting from a government committee, any of which is more often propaganda than truth.

You did not prove what the committee stated was wrong.
Of course you reject any govt. reports. Got to stick with VToday and Global Search right?

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

You did not prove what the committee stated was wrong.
Of course you reject any govt. reports. Got to stick with VToday and Global Search right?

Depending upon the situation and subject matter, in my view government committees promote propaganda. Their reports favor the status quo, protect guilty parties, and console the gullible.

There are exceptions.

I am a free thinker Mike.

 

[mike2810]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Depending upon the situation and subject matter, in my view government committees promote propaganda. Their reports favor the status quo, protect guilty parties, and console the gullible.

There are exceptions.

I am a free thinker Mike.

Posting that you are a free thinker does not make it so. :mrgreen:

Noted: You have to disprove the statement made by the committee. Is that because Veterans Today and your sources have not provided you with what to post?

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

LOL Mike. You're quoting from the Notorious Wikipedia, edited by any and all with an agenda. In the second place you're quoting from a government committee, any of which is more often propaganda than truth.

That was a predictable dismissal of the evidence.

 

[truthatallcost]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

See post 22
"One can believe the Committee's conclusion or not. If not, what evidence is there that the conclusion is wrong? "

Is it not true that specifics of the attack were not known to any US agency.

Who in there right minds give a rats about explanations made up by CT authors at this point.

Your point, as bad of a point as it is, is that even though President Clinton warned President Bush, and the CIA tried on several occasions to warn the President, and attempts were made to warn Robert Mueller, and the Mossad warned their counterparts in the US, and Pakistani intelligence warned D.C.....that NONE of that matters, because the warnings didn't give the precise date/time/place of the attacks, and therefore all of these CT people need to just stop asking questions.

 

[mike2810]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Your point, as bad of a point as it is, is that even though President Clinton warned President Bush, and the CIA tried on several occasions to warn the President, and attempts were made to warn Robert Mueller, and the Mossad warned their counterparts in the US, and Pakistani intelligence warned D.C.....that NONE of that matters, because the warnings didn't give the precise date/time/place of the attacks, and therefore all of these CT people need to just stop asking questions.

Typical dodging response.

You admit specifics were not known is some of the warnings.
If you do not believe the Committee's conclusion then what evidence shows they were wrong?

You must be aware that prior to 9/11 many intelligence and law enforcement agencies did a terrible job of sharing information. The FBI knew some things. The CIA new some things. The State Department knew somethings. But they were not openly sharing info to develop a broader view of possible events. 9/11 changed that.

 

[truthatallcost]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Typical dodging response.

This is your argument essentially. Let me ask you this; given the fact that CIA and FBI officials blocked requests by agents to follow up on evidence they'd uncovered, HOW WAS ANYONE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THE EXACT DATE/TIME/LOCATION of the attacks? See, upper level officials cut the legs out from under their subordinates, and then stand back and say, 'aha! nobody knew specifics!' Ridiculous Mike.

You admit specifics were not known is some of the warnings.
If you do not believe the Committee's conclusion then what evidence shows they were wrong?

Atta's apartment in Germany was being monitored 2 years prior to 9/11, by German intelligence. But guess what? Yep, you guessed it, 'they forgot to tell the CIA'. Either the world of counterterrorism intelligence circa late 90's-early 2000's was staffed with the biggest bunch of inept idiots to walk the planet, or CYOA Mike.

You must be aware that prior to 9/11 many intelligence and law enforcement agencies did a terrible job of sharing information. The FBI knew some things. The CIA new some things. The State Department knew somethings. But they were not openly sharing info to develop a broader view of possible events. 9/11 changed that.

And some of the people responsible for eliminating lines of communication prior to 9/11 were chosen to sit on the 9/11 Commission. Isn't that correct?

 

[saltydancin]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

You know who else had prior knowledge of 9/11?

Condi Rice.

Why would Israel care if they were aware of receiving some of the US 9/11 master plan information which was far more hell bent in a Christian Nation national religion based on Catholic Nazi Germany Kristallnacht exterminations since thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists got immaculate drug conception standing from SCOTUS just as Arab "death to the infidels" somehow not threatening POTUS, but according to baptise thine eye by urinations cops having Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" nuke Temple Mount leaving Christian Islamophobia to rival Nazi concentration camp factory lynching enforcement health care as the Federal Lynching churchstate of hate so blatantly expresses till this day. Those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda health care patriot act of it's only business of some more perfect union where the Islamidiotocracy of "serve the Pope or die" chose to invoke Islamophobia dhimmitude servitude master race

 

[Moot]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Why would Israel care if they were aware of receiving some of the US 9/11 master plan information which was far more hell bent in a Christian Nation national religion based on Catholic Nazi Germany Kristallnacht exterminations since thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists got immaculate drug conception standing from SCOTUS just as Arab "death to the infidels" somehow not threatening POTUS, but according to baptise thine eye by urinations cops having Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" nuke Temple Mount leaving Christian Islamophobia to rival Nazi concentration camp factory lynching enforcement health care as the Federal Lynching churchstate of hate so blatantly expresses till this day. Those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda health care patriot act of it's only business of some more perfect union where the Islamidiotocracy of "serve the Pope or die" chose to invoke Islamophobia dhimmitude servitude master race

Nice word salad. lol

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Why would Israel care if they were aware of receiving some of the US 9/11 master plan information which was far more hell bent in a Christian Nation national religion based on Catholic Nazi Germany Kristallnacht exterminations since thieving US Constitution - old glory - old testament arsonists got immaculate drug conception standing from SCOTUS just as Arab "death to the infidels" somehow not threatening POTUS, but according to baptise thine eye by urinations cops having Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" nuke Temple Mount leaving Christian Islamophobia to rival Nazi concentration camp factory lynching enforcement health care as the Federal Lynching churchstate of hate so blatantly expresses till this day. Those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda health care patriot act of it's only business of some more perfect union where the Islamidiotocracy of "serve the Pope or die" chose to invoke Islamophobia dhimmitude servitude master race

Next Xmas ask Santa for some punctuation.

 

[saltydancin]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Nice word salad. lol

=zyzygy;Next Xmas ask Santa for some punctuation.

So here's the Christian Nation Fourth Reich putting on it's best schizoid patriot act after the burning Bush's 9/11 fiasco of going into business with Muslims to nuke Israel's Temple Mount with suicidal super ego lynching enforcement master race avoidance of their master plan failure trying to white wash it away with Islamophobia in that "serve the Pope or die" "death to the infidels" national religion.

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

That was a predictable dismissal of the evidence.

You don't know the difference between fact and fiction, between evidence and assertion. But I already knew that. :mrgreen:

 

[zyzygy]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Nice word salad. lol

=zyzygy;Next Xmas ask Santa for some punctuation.

So here's the Christian Nation Fourth Reich putting on it's best schizoid patriot act after the burning Bush's 9/11 fiasco of going into business with Muslims to nuke Israel's Temple Mount with suicidal super ego lynching enforcement master race avoidance of their master plan failure trying to white wash it away with Islamophobia in that "serve the Pope or die" "death to the infidels" national religion.

Full stop.

 

[saltydancin]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Nice word salad. lol

=zyzygy;Next Xmas ask Santa for some punctuation.

Full stop.

Xmas present come to early for still on that diatribe of Federal Lynching KKK churchstate of hate cops immaculate drug conceptions at US District Court for Washington about a year after 9/11 with that suicidal super ego homicidal pyschopathilogical Christiananality pedophilia mentality killer of a WW II Pentagon Staff Sergeant to Eisenhower tautology of how he couldn't be stopped, obviously from that nor from going into business with Al Qaeda "death to the infidels" to nuke Israel at Temple Mount; yet failing & reverting to Islamophobia "serve the Pope or die" for all their mass murder of USA citizens whitewashing propaganda as if it's the US District Court of Nazington, Drugs of Christianity for that supreme swastika up Uranus court standing in those burning Bush's 9/11 Al Qaeda Mengele baptize thine eyes by urinations defamations prior to exterminations really gets old.

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

You don't know the difference between fact and fiction, between evidence and assertion. But I already knew that. :mrgreen:

I know how to use a bibliography when I employ wiki, and apparently you don't. Anyway, your post was just more of your empty noise and the usual personal attacks. One day, and I won't hold my breath, you may actually be able to discuss a subject in an adult fashion, but I truly doubt it.

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

I know how to use a bibliography when I employ wiki, and apparently you don't. Anyway, your post was just more of your empty noise and the usual personal attacks. One day, and I won't hold my breath, you may actually be able to discuss a subject in an adult fashion, but I truly doubt it.

Sure Spook, take your marbles and go home. :lol:

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Sure Spook, take your marbles and go home. :lol:

Oh, do stop trolling for once. You're stupid posts are so tedious.

 

[Thoreau72]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Oh, do stop trolling for once. You're stupid posts are so tedious.

Why don't you put me on ignore instead of replying to the tedious posts?

 

[NWO_Spook]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

Why don't you put me on ignore instead of replying to the tedious posts?

Now that's a good idea, as I've run out of patience with your trolling. See ya.

 

[saltydancin]

Re: Newly Released FBI Docs Shed Light on Apparent Mossad Foreknowledge of 9/11 Attacks

In this Christian Nation nothing worse than SCOTUS hate giving immaculate drug conception standing to KKK churchstate cops going into business with Al Qaeda for 9/11 to nuke Temple Mount Israel making sure the song remains the same. How's them marbles …...