[W:92] Federal legislation is needed to stop gun violence

[vegas giants]

So you got nothing.

There is not a single country on earth with lax gun laws and low gun deaths.


It cant be done

 

[Media_Truth]

I find those stats highly doubtful seeing how most 2nd amendment opponents such as yourself don't even know what an assault weapon actually is. You can't properly define one and when asked about you whine about semantics. So I highly doubt that the people taking those surveys don't even know the difference between a firearm defined as an assault weapon and one that isn't. If the survey asked should semiautomatic handguns and rifles be banned the results would drastically be a overwhelming no.

Quibbling over your draconian definitions does not advance your position.

 

[vegas giants]

Name one. If there were dozens, naming one shouldn't be a problem.

Gun registration. A shooter could have decided that it was too much hassle and never bought a gun.

 

[jamesrage]

There is not a single country on earth with lax gun laws and low gun deaths.


It cant be done

Vermont has lax gun laws and low homicide deaths.

Gun deaths overall don't mean dick because most gun deaths in this country are suicides which are irrelevant.

 

[jamesrage]

Quibbling over your draconian definitions does not advance your position.

See you proved that you are ignorant as **** when it comes to firearms. And you expect that the people taking the survey to know anything?

 

[vegas giants]

Vermont has lax gun laws and low homicide deaths.

Gun deaths overall don't mean dick because most gun deaths in this country are suicides which are irrelevant.

Suicides are irrelevant to the families of the dead? That is sick.


States with the highest suicide rate all have lax gun laws.

 

[RedAkston]

Gun registration. A shooter could have decided that it was too much hassle and never bought a gun.

"Could have". Whatboutisms? That's all you have? Seriously?

 

[vegas giants]

"Could have". Whatboutisms? That's all you have? Seriously?

Thst is not what whataboutism means. Lol

We are discussing probabilities. That seatbelts is no guarantee that your life will be saved in a crash....but buckle up . Lol

 

[RedAkston]

Thst is not what whataboutism means. Lol

We are discussing probabilities. That seatbelts is no guarantee that your life will be saved in a crash....but buckle up . Lol

You said "dozens of laws could have...". Not a single one would have. You're dealing in whataboutisms, whether you know it or not. It seems as though you are the one who doesn't know what whataboutisms means.

 

[vegas giants]

You said "dozens of laws could have...". Not a single one would have. You're dealing in whataboutisms, whether you know it or not. It seems as though you are the one who doesn't know what whataboutisms means.

You can prove that? You can prove that the shooter may have decided not to buy a gun based on recent gun laws? Really? You are psychic?


No sir....you can not

 

[RedAkston]

You can prove that? You can prove that the shooter may have decided not to buy a gun based on recent gun laws? Really? You are psychic?


No sir....you can not

I'm not the one trying to claim that, you are, and you're failing miserably.

 

[vegas giants]

I'm not the one trying to claim that, you are, and you're failing miserably.

The exact opposite of what you said is true. You are claiming that a gun control law CAN NOT prevent a mass shooting.

I can easily also claim a seatbelt CAN NOT prevent a auto death.


Buckle up. Lol

 

[RedAkston]

The exact opposite of what you said is true. You are claiming that a gun control law CAN NOT prevent a mass shooting.

I can easily also claim a seatbelt CAN NOT prevent a auto death.


Buckle up. Lol

Correct, a gun control law cannot prevent a mass shooting. See Chicago, DC, etc...

 

[jaeger19]

Such a ludicrous question, but so typical of the NRA adherents and the We-Are-So-Powerless-to-do-Anything-about-Mass-Shootings crowd.

Here's a "Red Flag" event in today's Wall Street Journal ---

Vermont Police Thwart Potential School Shooting - WSJ

...Mr. Sawyer’s father said his son had spent the past year and a half in a residential treatment facility in Maine for depression and anxiety, and he had recently stopped taking his medication for depression and ADHD.

The following day, law enforcement in New York’s Duchess County were contacted by a juvenile female about phone messages from an individual who had been plotting to shoot at the Fair Haven school, according to the affidavit. The text messages were time stamped beginning Feb. 11, and continued through the evening of Feb. 14, according to an affidavit.

In interviews with Fair Haven law enforcement, Mr. Hall said, Mr. Sawyer said he had been planning to “shoot up” Fair Haven Union High School for several years and provided details of which parts of the school he would target.

Police recovered the shotgun and ammunition, as well as Mr. Sawyer’s journal, titled “The Journal of an Active Shooter.” They also found books on the Columbine school shooting and a gas mask, Mr. Hall said.

Okay.. so here is a clear case where a fellow with mental health issues.. was a potential danger.

Now.. you say.. "look this is a success".. because they found the shotgun.

What if they didn't find a shotgun? What if they didn't find the journal? Just phone messages etc. Well.. nothing would have been done. Because what could be done?


Oh WAIT... we could actually figure out HOW TO GET THIS PERSON THE HELP THEY NEED.

Wow.. what a novel idea. So that way.. this person doesn't end up killing themselves.. with a knife.. or knifing someone.. or doing a mass killing by setting a fire etc...

But you think.."wow we did something because we found a shotgun".

The NRA adherent? They don't say we are powerless... they say... "WE NEED TO FOCUS ON WAYS TO PREVENT VIOLENCE".

Instead of waiting for some "red flag"...to stop a potential killer. Sheesh.

 

[jaeger19]

The exact opposite of what you said is true. You are claiming that a gun control law CAN NOT prevent a mass shooting.

I can easily also claim a seatbelt CAN NOT prevent a auto death.


Buckle up. Lol

Sure.. and while Redakston would be correct..

You would be wrong.

 

[jaeger19]

Suicides are irrelevant to the families of the dead? That is sick.


States with the highest suicide rate all have lax gun laws.

It is sick... that's what so frustrating about you.

You don't care that people die from suicide.. as long as its not with a firearm.

Japan has some of the toughest gun laws.. and a high rate of suicide.

Its not about guns.

 

[vegas giants]

It is sick... that's what so frustrating about you.

You don't care that people die from suicide.. as long as its not with a firearm.

Japan has some of the toughest gun laws.. and a high rate of suicide.

Its not about guns.

I know you dont care about suicides. In the US gun control reduces suicides.


And you dont care

 

[TurtleDude]

This coming from the guy who keeps telling us that we need to ban "weapons of war," but who then dodges every question aimed at getting him to explain why.




Yes, that's a perfect example of why we don't need red flag laws, since he was stopped without resort to one.

The main goal for these gun banners is to harass and impede legal gun ownership and hassle lawful gun owners. It is all about political warfare. Nothing the gun banners suggest has any value in decreasing the criminal misuse of firearms

 

[vegas giants]

Sure.. and while Redakston would be correct..

You would be wrong.

Opinion noted and dismissed

 

[vegas giants]

Correct, a gun control law cannot prevent a mass shooting. See Chicago, DC, etc...

A seatbelt can not prevent an auto death.


Why do you use them? Real question

 

[pinqy]

A seatbelt can not prevent an auto death.


Why do you use them? Real question

Because seatbelts CAN prevent auto death...happens all the time.

 

[vegas giants]

Because seatbelts CAN prevent auto death...happens all the time.

Yay.....we have a winner.


Same with gun control

 

[pinqy]

Yay.....we have a winner.


Same with gun control

But they cannot prevent deliberate actions such as vehicular manslaughter.

And I can explain how seatbelts save lives.

How does banning rifles with pistol grips, flash suppressors, or bayonet lugs prevent mass shootings????

 

[vegas giants]

But they cannot prevent deliberate actions such as vehicular manslaughter.

And I can explain how seatbelts save lives.

How does banning rifles with pistol grips, flash suppressors, or bayonet lugs prevent mass shootings????

Well I am against gun bans so I will not defend that position

 

[pinqy]

Well I am against gun bans so I will not defend that position

Banning certain weapons is not a form of gun control?
Which gun control measures, then, are you claiming can prevent mass shootings?