[W:914,1223] Robert Mueller's report is out

[Mr Person]

I have no idea nor do I care

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Quoted for emphasis. He just outed himself as a hack.

See also:

You think you are capable of shaming, but hehe, that's an ongoing joke.

Literally mocking someone for allegedly thinking she is capable of shame. I guess that's their only strategy left. If they admit they've defended a corrupt scumbag, they can't but help admitting their opinion is worth no more than its weight in votes. That, in turn, means the moment the Dems run someone who isn't as detestable as Hillary, the people who see this report for what it is (certainly not a declaration of complete innocence) become relevant again and the trixies irrelevant again.

After all, the only point in the GOP aiming for committed hardcore Trump supporters is if the Dems run someone so horrible the middle 10% of the voting population doesn't support either candidate. They're a minority. They've been shrinking specifically because of their complete refusal to listen to anything other than what they want to hear and their "pwn the libtards" type behavior, which manifests in....well.... look at which type of poster has been quoting the report at length and which type of poster has been posting pictures of babies. And since the GOP has more or less completely capitulated, Trump is the likely nominee, and there's no reason to think he won't only focus on those shrinking committed supporters.

So be my guest, Trumpists. Spend as much of the next two years doing the dishonest annoy-a-liberal routine. You've bled enough support that you are going to become irrelevant again in 2020, just another guaranteed red vote, and that's even if the GOP nominates someone else this time. Politicians don't appeal to guaranteed votes, except maybe Trump, who focuses on them. The only reason you're in the position you are now - at least able to lie to each other about how awesome Trump supposedly is - is because Hillary made a fatal mistake of assuming she had enough guaranteed votes in three flip-flop states. Without that, even she would have beaten Trump.

What's the probability, do you think, that the Dems run Hillary again and Hillary again ignores those three states?

:thinking









PS: this post isn't actually for you to respond to, trixie. The time for discussion was in the first 54 pages you relentlessly trolled.

 

[danarhea]

It's getting juicier. Mueller report exposes Don Jr.'s communications with Wikileaks.

 

[ecofarm]

Eliminating burdens on businesses puts people back to work.
The stats show it benefited black people. Why not mention it? The employed also benefit a second time from higher wages generated by a faster-growing economy. Lower taxes for businesses and individuals help fuel more investment and innovation, which means more jobs and higher wages for everyone; Economics 101.

And when black crime rates are up, do white people also get credit?

No, white people only get credit for good numbers. Black people get credit for bad numbers.

Good thing Trump saved the black people.

 

[trouble13]

Yep, that is the legal (constitutional?) method to remove a sitting POTUS from office.

Exactly

My comments are directed at congress. Either impeach or stfu.

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[tres borrachos]

Eliminating burdens on businesses puts people back to work.
The stats show it benefited black people. Why not mention it? The employed also benefit a second time from higher wages generated by a faster-growing economy. Lower taxes for businesses and individuals help fuel more investment and innovation, which means more jobs and higher wages for everyone; Economics 101.

Can you cite some data that shows what burdens he lifted on businesses that caused them to hire more black people? Where did it happen specifically? What types of businesses? What were the burdens that prevented them from hiring blacks previously? Feedback and comments from these job hirers confirming that they hired black people because of Trump's burden elimination.

 

[Obscurity]

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Literally mocking someone for allegedly thinking she is capable of shame. I guess that's their only strategy left. If they admit they've defended a corrupt scumbag, they can't but help admitting their opinion is worth no more than its weight in votes. That, in turn, means the moment the Dems run someone who isn't as detestable as Hillary, the people who see this report for what it is (certainly not a declaration of complete innocence) become relevant again and the trixies irrelevant again.

After all, the only point in aiming for committed hardcore supporters is if the Dems run someone so horrible the middle 10% of the voting population doesn't support either candidate. They're a minority. They've been shrinking specifically because of their complete refusal to listen to anything other than what they want to hear and their "pwn the libtards" type behavior, which manifests in....well.... look at which type of poster has been quoting the report at length and which type of poster has been posting pictures of babies.

So be my guest, Trumpists. Spend as much of the next two years doing the dishonest annoy-a-liberal routine. You've bled enough support that you are going to become irrelevant again in 2020, just another guaranteed red vote. And politicians don't appeal to guaranteed votes. The only reason you're in the position you are now - at least able to lie to each other about how awesome Trump supposedly is - is because Hillary made a fatal mistake of assuming she had enough guaranteed votes in three flip-flop states. Without that, even she would have beaten Trump.

What's the probability, do you think, that the Dems run Hillary again and Hillary again ignores those three states?

:thinking









PS: this post isn't actually for you to respond to, trixie. The time for discussion was in the first 54 pages you relentlessly trolled.

Trixie hasn't responded to me because Trixie knows Trixie will be utterly gutted by my responses. Trixie is a sell out to the Trump presidency, and it truly shows in the absurd amount of idiotic posts in this thread alone.

Lacking substance, lacking thought. Just brain dead "I want troll of the month" award BS posts and rhetoric.

 

[tres borrachos]

It's getting juicier. Mueller report exposes Don Jr.'s communications with Wikileaks.

WikiLeaks? I love WikiLeaks!

 

[TamleeB]

That bolded part is very important. The Republicans actually slit their own throats on that issue. Trump base is okay with him saying "I'll have to plan to you after the election". But most of America is smarter than is base.

It will be interesting to see if our Country is ready for Medicare for all. The idea of "free" healthcare is very appealing, but the reality that it will not actually be free may possibly change some minds. Looking forward to details on the Healthcare issue. I also want to hear some idea's on immigration as both those issues seem to be the two biggest concerns right now.

 

[Obscurity]

Can you cite some data that shows what burdens he lifted on businesses that caused them to hire more black people? Where did it happen specifically? What types of businesses? What were the burdens that prevented them from hiring blacks previously? Feedback and comments from these job hirers confirming that they hired black people because of Trump's burden elimination.

I'd wager the right cannot point to a SINGLE regulation they "lifted" that actually resulted in the creation of a single job.

Not one.

 

[Obscurity]

It will be interesting to see if our Country is ready for Medicare for all. The idea of "free" healthcare is very appealing, but the reality that it will not actually be free may possibly change some minds. Looking forward to details on the Healthcare issue. I also want to hear some idea's on immigration as both those issues seem to be the two biggest concerns right now.

Sanders is right on immigration and health care. He said it best - you'll pay more in taxes but you won't pay premiums, co-pays or deductibles. His plan will eliminate cost at point of service.

He's also right on immigration. Congress needs to stop abdicating responsibility and fix the issue. The wall will not do it. We need less "immigration" and more merit.

 

[Cardinal]

"The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President 's corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law."

"We concluded that Congress has authority to prohibit a President's corrupt use of his authority in order to protect the integrity of the administration of justice... Constitution does not ... immunize a President for obstructing justice."

 

[Mr Person]

They are underestimating Sanders and the true populist movement. All those sanders voters that rejected HRC and voted for Trump will vote for Sanders in 2020 - not Trump.

In addition, they keep opining endlessly about the economy. Go right ahead. Sanders will duly shred this false narrative, as he did in his Fox news townhall; he rightly pointed to the uptick in employment across westernized nations. Trump is not the president of Germany or France, for example.

The narrative will not be about the economy. Money is useless if you're dead. The party of health care the GOP has never been and never will be.

Fear the Bern.

And if Sanders doesn't have the nomination are they sitting home again? If Sanders runs and doesn't get the nomination, I doubt they'll feel any different this time, even if they had nothing explicit to point to regarding a 'rigged primary' the second time around. So the Dems may very well be operating without them.

I wouldn't put too much weight on them, though. Hillary could easily have won without them if she hadn't ran such an arrogant and foolish campaign. I remember reading articles from volunteers in a few key states she ignored saying they could barely so much as get the attention of the national campaign. They were just out there trying to do what they thought could help, rudderless. Utter ineptitude from Hillary and a populace without enough cynicism is what handed Trump the win.

 

[tres borrachos]

They are underestimating Sanders and the true populist movement. All those sanders voters that rejected HRC and voted for Trump will vote for Sanders in 2020 - not Trump.

In addition, they keep opining endlessly about the economy. Go right ahead. Sanders will duly shred this false narrative, as he did in his Fox news townhall; he rightly pointed to the uptick in employment across westernized nations. Trump is not the president of Germany or France, for example.

The narrative will not be about the economy. Money is useless if you're dead. The party of health care the GOP has never been and never will be.

Fear the Bern.

I'm not fan of his and wouldn't consider voting for him (unless I have no choice and the opponent is Trump), but I will give him a lot of credit. He is talking to the right people and saying the right things about healthcare. Trump cultists are deluding themselves if they think most Americans are going to let the GOP and Trump slip by.

 

[sjmay]

No. Mueller said why he did not charge Trump with obstruction despite laying out pages and pages of obstruction - it’s for Congress to decide what to do about it.

No, cmon man, be honest, he DECLINED to charge Trump.....he's a prosecutor, they can either make a case, or not make a case, he wasn't sure if he could make a case....so he DECLINED LEGALLY to charge him with Obstruction...

It's not hard to figure out.

 

[tres borrachos]

It will be interesting to see if our Country is ready for Medicare for all. The idea of "free" healthcare is very appealing, but the reality that it will not actually be free may possibly change some minds. Looking forward to details on the Healthcare issue. I also want to hear some idea's on immigration as both those issues seem to be the two biggest concerns right now.

Which politician is promising "free" healthcare?

I agree that healthcare is going to get debated widely. Immigration? Not as much but yes, to some degree. Healthcare is the elephant in the room, the common thread, the one thing that impacts all Americans. It will be entertaining, or something...

 

[Ikari]

Answer the question.

Nice dodge. The question was of partisan integrity and how you now use the "standard the left is applying" instead of one you used before.

So answer the question, did that stop you from complaining about how she was still guilty?

 

[Obscurity]

And if Sanders doesn't have the nomination are they sitting home again? If Sanders runs and doesn't get the nomination, I doubt they'll feel any different this time, even if they had nothing explicit to point to regarding a 'rigged primary' the second time around. So the Dems may very well be operating without them.

I wouldn't put too much weight on them, though. Hillary could easily have won without them if she hadn't ran such an arrogant and foolish campaign. I remember reading articles from volunteers in a few key states she ignored saying they could barely so much as get the attention of the national campaign. They were just out there trying to do what they thought could help, rudderless. Utter ineptitude from Hillary and a populace without enough cynicism is what handed Trump the win.

The only dem candidate is sanders. As a sanders voter, I will not stay home this time. I will vote blue, because I want legal cannabis and I want a reduction in our interference in other countries. I will vote to oppose Trump, because his presidency has been a complete disaster.

Remember, though. Us Bernie voters GAVE you Trump when you gave us Clinton.

I don't speak for all Bernie supporters, but I cannot say for sure that they will come vote against DJT and his menagerie of corruption.

 

[americanwoman]

WikiLeaks? I love WikiLeaks!

Wikileaks? I know nothing about WikiLeaks.

 

[ecofarm]

"How come the black community can't get its act straight? How come black people can't fix black culture?!"

Black unemployment rates are down.

"Thanks, Trump."





Really?

 

[Obscurity]

I'm not fan of his and wouldn't consider voting for him (unless I have no choice and the opponent is Trump), but I will give him a lot of credit. He is talking to the right people and saying the right things about healthcare. Trump cultists are deluding themselves if they think most Americans are going to let the GOP and Trump slip by.

I'm guessing you're one of those centrists that would like someone like... Harris? Or, Biden?

 

[TamleeB]

Sanders is right on immigration and health care. He said it best - you'll pay more in taxes but you won't pay premiums, co-pays or deductibles. His plan will eliminate cost at point of service.

He's also right on immigration. Congress needs to stop abdicating responsibility and fix the issue. The wall will not do it. We need less "immigration" and more merit.

I agree that congress needs to fix the immigration issue, but its apparent at this point they are not interested. It is a crisis, and its getting worse every single day.

 

[Fruityfact]

No, cmon man, be honest, he DECLINED to charge Trump.....he's a prosecutor, they can either make a case, or not make a case, he wasn't sure if he could make a case....so he DECLINED LEGALLY to charge him with Obstruction...
It's not hard to figure out.

Mueller said it wouldn't be fair for him to charge the president. He has left the decision up to congress. Cmon man, be honest, it's not hard to figure out.

 

[MTAtech]

Keywords... Trump campaign did not conspire or coordinate with the Russian government in its election interference activities. :usflag2:

You're celebrating, right? Doing the happy dance? :2dancing::ind: Good day for our country, right?

It completely undercuts Trump's assertion that Russian's did not interfere with the election. You might remember, 'Mr. Putin said he didn't do it. I have no reason not to believe him.'

The report also said that Trump allies destroyed evidence.

The major crime her is obstruction of justice.

Unlike in Watergate, there were no tapes of the president admitting guilt. So, the coverup was successful. They used encrypted communications and never wrote anything down.

 

[Chomsky]

Then you're less cynical than I am, since I don't think there was ever a chance of anything different happening, and have said as much throughout this whole thing.

- DOJ policy meant Mueller would not recommend indicting Trump (indeed, he seems to have gone farther and avoided making any explicit determination of whether Trump himself committed a crime)

- Even if the House could get enough votes to impeach, the GOP in the senate would never allow conviction.

- There are a ton of other state/federal investigations, and Trump very well may not skip out on those. He's probably praying for the combination of re-election and statutes of limitation (5 years for most federal crimes, at least) save him. But that's for later, after the damage is done.

- As to those, I guarantee you that no amount of later criminal convictions will make Trump supporters repent of their behavior in the last few years. They will claim Trump was framed, that the juries and judges were biased, etc., and treat him like a martyr if he's later convicted.



I really do think politics is broken. The only real hope I have is that a generation of kids grow up watching their parents behave in an insanely partisan fashion, and maybe a few decades from now we get back to sanity as they push back.

Regardless of the supporters, if later convictions are warranted, then justice would be provided and prevail. And that's the most important thing.

 

[Mr Person]

WikiLeaks? I love WikiLeaks!

Until I was just joking!